Re: [LutheransLookingEast] Where'd everybody go / I'm off again!
- Actually, all Orders up to Deacon are officially laity. They are buried as
laymen. Priests and bishops are buried with a separate service. I think it
also gets at the difference between the two words in Greek that are often
translated similarly in English (chero... something).
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:23 AM, DonPedroGordo <donpedrogordo@...>wrote:
> Hei! Tschüß! ¡Hola! Oi! Ciao! Hi!
> You are of course correct, Benjamin.
> And in Orthodoxy, a reader is a minor clerix but not so minor a player in
> the performance of the services.
> --- On Mon, 9/14/09, Benjamin Harju <benjamin.harju@...<benjamin.harju%40gmail.com>>
> From: Benjamin Harju <benjamin.harju@...<benjamin.harju%40gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [LutheransLookingEast] Where'd everybody go / I'm off again!
> To: LutheransLookingEast@yahoogroups.com<LutheransLookingEast%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 9:33 PM
> You said, "Just the two cents of this layman."
> I didn't think a Reader was technically a layman. I thought being
> tonsured a reader was a minor clerical order.
> In Christ,
> Benjamin Harju
> On 9/14/09, Christopher Orr <xcjorr@gmail. com> wrote:
> > Dave,
> > Congrats on your 'aspiration' . May it be blessed.
> > Kim,
> > Ask your priest about how and if you should proceed in joining the
> > He is probably holding off to allow you the space to try Orthodoxy on,
> > if you feel comfortable in the parish, just gather enough experience to
> > questions formulated. There is no rush. Take your time. But, at the same
> > time, strike while the iron is hot and don't cool the Spirit. My
> > father put it this way: Take your time, but remember it's later than you
> > think. Both parts are important. I liken such things to marriage. Goo-goo
> > eyes are important when you are dating, but you shouldn't just go off an
> > elope in the first months of new love - it might just be infatuation or
> > lust. The marriage is important, too, as is the honeymoon, but a real
> > marriage built on solid love will move beyond these early (important)
> > to something deeper and more stable. You want to catch your breathe and
> > your footing; there are things you will be offended by, confused by, hurt
> > in the Orthodox Church - this is partially hidden by the newness of
> > everything, but it also hits harder after being worked on by the services
> > for awhile (months, years): the heart is softened and hurt more easily,
> > deeply.
> > Make sure you are praying - morning and evening, and the Jesus Prayer
> > you can. Just a little something. Ask your priest for a 'rule'. Same with
> > fasting. You want to ease into these things doing just a little more than
> > you feel comfortable with, just a little, like training for a big race.
> > Just the two cents of this layman. Ignore all of it if your priest
> > something else.
> > Christopher
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Kimberly Sparling
> > <belleartmom@ gmail.com>wrote:
> >> I'm still here! Our family had a *long* day yesterday, most of it at
> >> church. Divine Liturgy at 10am, followed by the first week of Sunday
> >> school
> >> for our kids, which lasted an hour. My 8yo twin girls learned how to
> >> an icon (not on the face, apparently), and they colored a handout sheet
> >> about St. Helena and how she found the cross in Jerusalem. My 9yo son's
> >> class is using a big book called "Jesus, the Promise of God" and I am
> >> happy with what I am seeing for the first week. It is published by the
> >> Orthodox Christian Education Commission. In previous SS classes at other
> >> churches my son didn't like doing busy work. They were even nice enough
> >> invite my 21yo son with developmental disabilities to the high school
> >> class. I am so happy, because he had been asking me if he could go to
> >> too.
> >> Anyway, we finally left church around 2pm, got home around 2:30, then
> >> to
> >> leave again around 4:30 for a 5pm Vespers service for Exaltation of the
> >> Cross, followed by a BBQ and bonfire at church. The kids really enjoyed
> >> and it was very well attended.
> >> Question: do you wait for the priest to ask if you are interested in
> >> becoming a catechumen, or do I ask him? I know he is the one who decides
> >> if
> >> you are ready to be chrismated and received into the Church. I have been
> >> attending with dh and family since the end of July. I have also read the
> >> books Father suggested, The Spiritual Father and Searching for God in a
> >> Land
> >> of Shallow Wells.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kim
> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:47 PM, howdydave_2000
> >> <dnaess@frontiernet. net<dnaess%40frontiern et.net>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Helloooo...
> >> >
> >> > Anybody home??
> >> >
> >> > Well, come Wednesday and I'm off again for my second visit to New
> >> > Monastery in Cambridge, NY. This time as an aspirant rather than as an
> >> > inquirer.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.newskete .com
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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