Re: Positive Advocacy and Logan Square
- I have to agree that a library on Fullerton is a bad idea (TM) because of the
heavy traffic. I do not look forward to walking down Fullerton to make our trips
to the library. We go at least once a week. It's much nicer to stroll down quieter
streets, with the current location on Altgeld.
As far as developing Fullerton: I hope this is done with thoughfulness! I
believe this street is sort of a borderline between Colon and Ocasio's wards. I
always wondered why so much effort was put into Armitage. when Fullerton is
obviously more of a corridor. There are so many empty storefronts on
Fullerton now. And let's not forget the former Duk's empty lot(s) -- I have a
hard time believing it's really going to be a Walgreen's given the For Sale sign
and length of time it's been empty.
Also, I was very disappointed to see (on Halloween) that the old Kimball
Pharmacy location has a sign in the window announcing that it will soon open
as, yet another, hip-hop music store. That will make three such "stores" on
Fullerton between Kimball and Central Park. How many of these do we really
need? I hope the free market will close it down soon. I do not relish walking by
there, as the other "music stores" I've seen tend to blare obscene lyrics onto
the street and flash annoying strobe lights. Perhaps I'll be pleasantly
What would it take to attract businesses like a decent, clean corner store with
a variety of offerenings or a comfortable family restaurant that does not use a
deep frier and has actually heard of fresh vegetables?
Sorry for the public vent, but I wanted to voice my opinions on these subjects. I
don't have any answers, myself, but I am interested in what everyone else has
- Colette--Your comments are interesting. True, our library site is sweet and
homey, and I love it. But hundreds of people don't even know that we have a
library, and I mean well educated people who read books. The new library
will be highly visible, and a lot more kids who need a place to study and
use computers will go there.
As to Fullerton, remember that we don't have Urban Renewal any more, so new
development is based on private money. The people who own or buy land can
do with it almost whatever they want, so long as the zoning allows it.
That's why it isn't logical to say "Why can't we have a park at California
and Diversey," since the land is owned by Olympic Carpet, they want to sell,
and the Park District doesn't want to buy it.
Whether the Park District is right or wrong in our opinion doesn't really
affect the picture. As to Fullerton, or Diversey, what types of business
come in depends on how the people who scout for sites see our community
developing. Walgreen's IS coming to Kimball, and may start construction yet
in 2003. But we are not seeing more upscale merchants coming in...because
they don't see the area as producing enough purchases to make a profit. We
have a lot of people who would like to see more variety and better stores,
but they number in the hundreds, not the thousands. Talk to Bob Olsen at
Viking Ski Shop and see how hard he's had to work for so many years to
develop and maintain his business. Jane Heron
- Heavy traffic on Fullerton a reason for keeping the library from moving
in? Man, you have already given up. Why not move not only the library,
but the alderman's office, a drugstore and various and assorted other
pedestrian oriented storefronts to Fullerton. That's how you should deal
with traffic problems. I live on the diagonal block of Albany. The
stoplight at my corner, on Fullerton does not work properly. Neither of
the walk buttons register input. The only time the light changes is when
a two ton car is over the metal detector in the pavement. and that
sucks. and there is an elementary school across the street! At least
there is a crossing guard when school starts and lets out. Apparently
pedestrian needs are not high on CDOT's agenda for Fullerton. and if we
bitch and moan and keep further community development off of Fullerton,
they will maintain such attitude!
- --- In LoganSquare@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Womac <kevin@k...> wrote:
> Heavy traffic on Fullerton a reason for keeping the library from movingYour attempt to castigate me for my viewpoint does not make the idea of
> in? Man, you have already given up. Why not move not only the library,
> but the alderman's office, a drugstore and various and assorted other
> pedestrian oriented storefronts to Fullerton. That's how you should deal
> with traffic problems. I live on the diagonal block of Albany. The
> stoplight at my corner, on Fullerton does not work properly. Neither of
> the walk buttons register input. The only time the light changes is when
> a two ton car is over the metal detector in the pavement. and that
> sucks. and there is an elementary school across the street! At least
> there is a crossing guard when school starts and lets out. Apparently
> pedestrian needs are not high on CDOT's agenda for Fullerton. and if we
> bitch and moan and keep further community development off of Fullerton,
> they will maintain such attitude!
walking 4 blocks down Fullerton with three children any more appealing to
me. I still think high traffic makes it a bad location.