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  • Jay
    Hi there Mark and other members, just wondering whether it is ok to use the Lidcombe Program with an older child? I am considering its use with a 7 year old
    Message 1 of 5 , Feb 13, 2006
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      Hi there Mark and other members,

      just wondering whether it is ok to use the Lidcombe Program with an
      older child? I am considering its use with a 7 year old who has been
      stuttering on and off for 2 years with no previous therapy. Are there
      any adaptations that might make it more age-appropriate or can anyone
      suggest a different program (available in Australia)?

      Thanks,

      Jay
    • Mark Onslow
      Hi Jay, Although the Lidcombe Program was developed for children up to 6 years, there is a good chance that it will work with a 7 year old, especially if the
      Message 2 of 5 , Feb 14, 2006
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        Hi Jay,

        Although the Lidcombe Program was developed for children up to 6
        years, there is a good chance that it will work with a 7 year old,
        especially if the case history of 2 years stuttering is trustworthy.
        There is no other evidence based program to my knowledge that would
        be suitable. Generally, the LP does not require major adaptation for
        a 7 year old, but there are some options that might open up. If you
        wish I can put your question to our cllinician at our Lidcombe
        Program demonstration clinic and get a general response to this issue.

        Regards,

        Mark.

        At 3:17 AM +0000 14/2/06, Jay wrote:
        >Hi there Mark and other members,
        >
        >just wondering whether it is ok to use the Lidcombe Program with an
        >older child? I am considering its use with a 7 year old who has been
        >stuttering on and off for 2 years with no previous therapy. Are there
        >any adaptations that might make it more age-appropriate or can anyone
        >suggest a different program (available in Australia)?
        >
        >Thanks,
        >
        >Jay
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >Yahoo! Groups Links
        >
        >
        >
        >


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        _____________________________________________________________________

        Professor Mark Onslow
        Principal Research Fellow
        National Health and Medical Research Council

        Director, Australian Stuttering Research Centre
        The University of Sydney

        PO Box 170 Lidcombe NSW 1825 Australia
        Phone: (Direct) 61-2-9351-9767 (Assistant) 61-2-9351-9061 Fax: 61-2-9351-9392

        http://www.fhs.usyd.edu.au/asrc
        _____________________________________________________________________
      • Alida Engel
        It is my understanding that research is beginning on the use of Lidcombe with older children. One of the concerns is that they will not respond to parental
        Message 3 of 5 , Feb 14, 2006
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          It is my understanding that research is beginning on the use of Lidcombe
          with older children. One of the concerns is that they will not respond to
          parental approval in the way that younger children do. Anyone else have
          some thoughts?

          Alida

          Alida Engel, CCC-SLP, BRS-FS
          801 Edgewood Avenue
          New Haven, CT 06515

          (203)397-3224
          Speech Language Pathologist
          Board Recognized Fluency Specialist
          www.speech-therapy-products.com
           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: LidcombeUSA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LidcombeUSA@yahoogroups.com] On
          Behalf Of Jay
          Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:18 PM
          To: LidcombeUSA@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [LidcombeUSA] New to Group - info re: older child

          Hi there Mark and other members,

          just wondering whether it is ok to use the Lidcombe Program with an
          older child? I am considering its use with a 7 year old who has been
          stuttering on and off for 2 years with no previous therapy. Are there
          any adaptations that might make it more age-appropriate or can anyone
          suggest a different program (available in Australia)?

          Thanks,

          Jay






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        • Jay
          Thanks Mark, that would be great. Jay ... trustworthy. ... would ... for ... you ... issue. ... an ... been ... there ... anyone ... 2-9351-9392
          Message 4 of 5 , Feb 14, 2006
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            Thanks Mark,

            that would be great.

            Jay

            --- In LidcombeUSA@yahoogroups.com, Mark Onslow <M.Onslow@...> wrote:
            >
            > Hi Jay,
            >
            > Although the Lidcombe Program was developed for children up to 6
            > years, there is a good chance that it will work with a 7 year old,
            > especially if the case history of 2 years stuttering is
            trustworthy.
            > There is no other evidence based program to my knowledge that
            would
            > be suitable. Generally, the LP does not require major adaptation
            for
            > a 7 year old, but there are some options that might open up. If
            you
            > wish I can put your question to our cllinician at our Lidcombe
            > Program demonstration clinic and get a general response to this
            issue.
            >
            > Regards,
            >
            > Mark.
            >
            > At 3:17 AM +0000 14/2/06, Jay wrote:
            > >Hi there Mark and other members,
            > >
            > >just wondering whether it is ok to use the Lidcombe Program with
            an
            > >older child? I am considering its use with a 7 year old who has
            been
            > >stuttering on and off for 2 years with no previous therapy. Are
            there
            > >any adaptations that might make it more age-appropriate or can
            anyone
            > >suggest a different program (available in Australia)?
            > >
            > >Thanks,
            > >
            > >Jay
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >Yahoo! Groups Links
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            >
            >
            > --
            >
            _____________________________________________________________________
            >
            > Professor Mark Onslow
            > Principal Research Fellow
            > National Health and Medical Research Council
            >
            > Director, Australian Stuttering Research Centre
            > The University of Sydney
            >
            > PO Box 170 Lidcombe NSW 1825 Australia
            > Phone: (Direct) 61-2-9351-9767 (Assistant) 61-2-9351-9061 Fax: 61-
            2-9351-9392
            >
            > http://www.fhs.usyd.edu.au/asrc
            >
            _____________________________________________________________________
            >
          • M B
            I m seeing an older boy (grade 1) who was started with Lidcombe at another clinic. I continued on that track for a month, but Mom and I decided to give it up
            Message 5 of 5 , Feb 15, 2006
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              I'm seeing an older boy (grade 1) who was started with
              Lidcombe at another clinic. I continued on that track
              for a month, but Mom and I decided to give it up and
              move to a fluency shaping approach.

              I'm not sure why it didn't work. Mom wasn't
              comfortable giving praise and the client is extremely
              goofy. They have a strained relationship I think:
              she's authoritarian-style and he rebels by being
              goofy. I don't think you can force Lidcombe if it
              isn't natural. (That would be an interesting study:
              seeing if there is a relationship between parenting
              style and Lidcombe success.)

              Now that they have something concrete to work on, he's
              making some good progress.

              However, it is harder to teach fluency skills to
              younger children, so if you can make Lidcombe work,
              everyone's life will be easier. You can always modify
              it later by adding some fluency skills.

              I'm doing that with a 3.5 year-old child who was stuck
              at SR2 for several months. We added some gentle starts
              and now she's ready for maintenance.

              So, my suggestion is to start to Lidcombe, especially
              if parents are keen and able to carry it out (my
              teacher moms and s-lp moms excel at this program), and
              try it out. Even if you find you have to add something
              else later, you'll have succeeded in increasing
              parents awareness of their children's stuttering, and
              hopefully, you'll have tuned them in to the power of
              praise.

              Best regards,
              Michael

              --- Alida Engel <alidaengel@...> wrote:


              ---------------------------------
              It is my understanding that research is beginning on
              the use of Lidcombe
              with older children. One of the concerns is that they
              will not respond to
              parental approval in the way that younger children do.
              Anyone else have
              some thoughts?

              Alida

              Alida Engel, CCC-SLP, BRS-FS
              801 Edgewood Avenue
              New Haven, CT 06515

              (203)397-3224
              Speech Language Pathologist
              Board Recognized Fluency Specialist
              www.speech-therapy-products.com
               

              -----Original Message-----
              From: LidcombeUSA@yahoogroups.com
              [mailto:LidcombeUSA@yahoogroups.com] On
              Behalf Of Jay
              Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:18 PM
              To: LidcombeUSA@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [LidcombeUSA] New to Group - info re: older
              child

              Hi there Mark and other members,

              just wondering whether it is ok to use the Lidcombe
              Program with an
              older child? I am considering its use with a 7 year
              old who has been
              stuttering on and off for 2 years with no previous
              therapy. Are there
              any adaptations that might make it more
              age-appropriate or can anyone
              suggest a different program (available in Australia)?

              Thanks,

              Jay






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