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Quebec P.R. study 11 June 2002

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  • Demorep1@aol.com
    D- Every single member gerrymander scheme is ANTI-Democracy in action-- a plurality of the votes in a bare majority of the districts means about 25-30 percent
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      D- Every single member gerrymander scheme is ANTI-Democracy in action-- a
      plurality of the votes in a bare majority of the districts means about 25-30
      percent indirect minority rule -- with very small oligarchies controlling
      things --especially in parliamentary regimes (as in Canada).

      A *democratic* p.r. method can be done in one day if the politicians were
      really serious in making reforms.

      They are not serious so these infinite/ sham studies to delay reforms keep

      For more info about proportional representation, see --


      A source of information on proportional representation elections --
      including beginning readings, in-depth articles by scholars and
      activists, an extensive bibliography, and a guide to related Web sites.
      See also Prof. Amy's new book--

      Behind the Ballot Box
      A Citizen's Guide to Voting Systems
      By Douglas J. Amy
      Praeger Paperback. Westport, Conn. 2000. 248 pages
      LC 00-029841. ISBN 0-275-96586-4. B6586 $19.95
      Available (Status Information Updated 4/26/2001)
      A cloth bound edition is available: 0-275-96585-6, $65.00

      ** Table of Contents **

      -- Preface
      -- Introduction
      -- What Are Voting Systems and Why Are They Important?
      -- Criteria for Evaluating Voting Systems
      -- Plurality-Majority Voting Systems
      -- Proportional Representation Voting Systems
      -- Semi-Proportional Voting Systems
      -- Voting Systems for Single-Office Elections
      -- Making Your Final Choice
      -- Appendixes
      -- Selected Bibliography
      -- Index

      ** Author **

      DOUGLAS J. AMY is Professor of Politics at Mount Holyoke College [in MA]

      Greenwood Publishing Group
      88 Post Road West
      Westport CT 06881
      (203) 226-3571

      Quebec mulls proportional or U.S.-style voting

      QUEBEC CITY (Reuters) - The province of Quebec could scrap its British-based
      parliamentary system and turn it into a U.S.-style presidential one, a
      legislative committee said Tuesday, stressing that changes would not be put
      into place in time for the 2003 election.

      The nonpartisan committee will travel across the French-speaking province of
      7.3 million people starting this fall to hear opinions from political
      scientists, experts and citizens. A final report is expected by mid-May 2003,
      just a few months before an expected provincial election.

      The options being considered include replacing the current
      "first-past-the-post" system used in Quebec and the rest of Canada with a
      European-style proportional system.

      The committee will also look at scrapping the 210-year-old parliamentary
      system and turn it into a presidential-style system like in the United States
      or France. Elections at fixed dates are also being looked at, as well as the
      election of the premier by the voters at large, and not the ruling party.

      "Everything is on the table", said Claude Lachance, president of the
      committee and a member of the separatist Parti Quebecois government.

      A reform of the electoral system by 2003 is however excluded because of an
      "unrealistic" timing.

      "Such a reform would not be ready for the next election," said Liberal member
      Henri-Francois Gautrin.

      The "first-past-the-post" ballot system has led to some odd twists in
      Quebec's political landscape since the 1960s. The conservative Union
      Nationale won power in 1966 despite finishing seven points behind the Liberal
      Party in the popular vote, and the Parti Quebecois was re-elected for a
      second mandate in 1998 after failing to win a majority of votes.

      At present, a party's victory is gained by winning the most votes in each of
      Quebec's 125 electoral districts, and not on the overall provincial vote.
      Elections must be held at least every five years, but governments can call a
      vote at any time within that term.

      A proportional system would take into account province-wide voting patterns,
      which supporters argue allows better representation by smaller, third parties
      and tempers the winning party's dominance in the legislature.

      06/11/02 18:29 ET
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