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  • Bill
    he was personally tutored by Frank Chodorov... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Chodorov excerpt: According to Chodorov: Henry George is the apostle of
    Message 1 of 22 , Aug 1, 2012
      he was personally tutored by Frank Chodorov...

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Chodorov

      excerpt:

      According to Chodorov:

      Henry George is the apostle of individualism; he teaches the ethical basis of private property; he stresses the function of capital in an advancing civilization; he emphasizes the greater productivity of voluntary cooperation in a free market economy, the moral degeneration of a people subjected to state direction and socialistic conformity. His is the philosophy of free enterprise, free trade, free men.[4]

      bg

      --- In LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Olson <jlolson53@...> wrote:
      >
      > Jeez. Buckley sure was one fucking confused dude when it came to economics
      > and moral theory. It's like he'd get about 2/3 of the way there, and then
      > the tangle of abstract logic would prove too much and his brain would
      > self-destruct. His (semi) belief in Georgism follows that trend nicely.
      >
      > JO
      >
      > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Bill <erm4you@...> wrote:
      >
      > > **
      > >
      > >
      > > William F. Buckley, Jr.: Henry George and the Single-Tax (an interview
      > > with Brian Lamb, CSpan Book Notes, April 2-3, 2000)
      > >
      > > CALLER: Mr. Buckley, it's a pleasure to talk to you.
      > >
      > > William F. Buckley, Jr.(WFB): Thank You.
      > >
      > > CALLER: I've heard you describe yourself as a Georgist, a follower of
      > > Henry George, but I haven't heard much in having you promote land value
      > > taxation and his theories, and I'm wondering why that is the case.
      > >
      > > WFB: It's mostly because I'm beaten down by my right-wing theorists and
      > > intellectual friends. They always find something wrong with the Single-Tax
      > > idea. What I'm talking about Mr. Lamb is Henry George who said there is
      > > infinite capacity to increase capital and to increase labor, but none to
      > > increase land, and since wealth is a function of how they play against each
      > > other, land should be thought of as common property. The effect of this
      > > would be that if you have a parking lot and the Empire State Building next
      > > to it, the tax on the parking lot should be the same as the tax on the
      > > Empire State Building, because you shouldn't encourage land speculation.
      > >
      > > Anyway I've run into tons of situations where I think the Single-Tax
      > > theory would be applicable. We should remember also this about Henry
      > > George, he was sort of co-opted by the socialists in the 20s and the 30s,
      > > but he was not one at all. Albert J. Nock's book on him makes that plain.
      > > Plus, also, he believes in only that tax. He believes in zero income tax.
      > >
      > > You look bored (addressing Brian Lamb)!
      > >
      > > BL: No, no. As a matter of fact I was going to ask you about this little
      > > book ("Lexicon, A Cornucopia of Wonderful Words for the Inquisitive Word
      > > Lover"). I'm fascinated by it. I'm going to see if you can pronounce the
      > > word, the-fear-of-having-peanut-butter-stuck-to-your-roof-of-your-mouth,
      > > This little book starts off and the fellow's name, is it Jesse
      > > Sheidlower?...
      > >
      > > WFB: I think so.
      > >
      > > BL: S-H-E-I-D-L-O-W-E-R? You've never read it (the Introduction to "The
      > > Lexicon").
      > >
      > > WFB: No. I never have.
      > >
      > > BL: (Quoting the book) "The first time I met William F. Buckley, we were
      > > both members of a televised panel discussing word. The moderator introduced
      > > me with a pop-quiz to test my credentials asked me to define the word..."
      > > Is it USUFRUCT?
      > >
      > > WFB: Usufruct, yeah.
      > >
      > > BL (Quoting the book) "I felt smug as I recite the right to enjoy
      > > another's property as long as you don't damage it. Then Mr. Buckley leaned
      > > into his microphone and quoted an entire paragraph on usufruct from the
      > > political economist, Henry George.
      > >
      > > WFB: Oh for heaven's sake!
      > >
      > > BL: And this little book has..
      > >
      > > WFB: The land belongs to those in usufruct.
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Walker <jwalkernot@>
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > On 7/31/12 3:23 PM, Dan Clore wrote:
      > > >
      > > > > [William F.] Buckley claims to be a libertarian, but his
      > > libertarianism,
      > > > > like that of so many others, extends only in certain limited
      > > directions.
      > > > > He is all for "maximum freedom", but only in the sphere of economic
      > > > > exploitation by capitalists without tedious and bothersome government
      > > > > interference; in matters of opinion and expression he sings a very
      > > > > different tune. In McCarthy and His Enemies he hoped wistfully for a
      > > > > constitutional amendment to outlaw the expression of communist views,
      > > > > and he also saw no problem with the Atlanta city government's banning
      > > of
      > > > > a pro-African American film, even though one was being forced to see
      > > the
      > > > > film. No, Mr. Buckley does not seem inclined to bestow "freedom" upon
      > > > > opinions he doesn't like. Let us heed the words of a true libertarian,
      > > > > H.L. Mencken: "I am, in brief, a libertarian of the most extreme
      > > > > variety, and know of no human right that is one-tenth as valuable as
      > > the
      > > > > simple right to utter what seems (at the moment) to be the truth. Take
      > > > > away this right, and none other is worth a hoot; nor, indeed, can any
      > > > > other long exist."
      > > > > --S.T. Joshi, God's Defenders: What They Believe and Why They Are Wrong
      > > > >
      > > > > http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1591020808/ref=nosim/thedanclorenecro
      > > >
      > > > See also:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > http://jessewalker.blogspot.com/2003/05/old-book-review-that-never-found-home.html
      > > >
      > > > "...Aside from its mild (some would say half-assed) opposition to the
      > > > war on drugs, the book's libertarianism never extends beyond the most
      > > > universally held pro-freedom sentiments: that Communism is bad, that
      > > > government regulation sometimes goes too far, that there are goofy
      > > > goings-on on college campuses. Meanwhile, Buckley issues paeans to
      > > > Sidney Hook and Richard Nixon, defenses of military action everywhere
      > > > from Vietnam to Nicaragua to Iraq, and unqualified praise for Franco and
      > > > Pinochet.
      > > >
      > > > So what kind of libertarian is Buckley? 'I do not understand,' he
      > > > writes, 'where Congress got the idea that it has any business telling an
      > > > adult American what he can and what he cannot purchase from a willing
      > > > seller, if you're not talking drugs or machine guns.' Ah -- a
      > > > libertarian for drug laws and gun control. Interesting kind...."
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
    • Jeff Olson
      It s worth noting that the Henry George school kicked his ass to the curb because of his anti-war views. So much for the enlightenment of the Georgists of
      Message 2 of 22 , Aug 1, 2012
        It's worth noting that the Henry George school kicked his ass to the curb because of his anti-war views.  So much for the enlightenment of the Georgists of that school.

        Jeff

        On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Bill <erm4you@...> wrote:
         

        he was personally tutored by Frank Chodorov...

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Chodorov

        excerpt:

        According to Chodorov:

        Henry George is the apostle of individualism; he teaches the ethical basis of private property; he stresses the function of capital in an advancing civilization; he emphasizes the greater productivity of voluntary cooperation in a free market economy, the moral degeneration of a people subjected to state direction and socialistic conformity. His is the philosophy of free enterprise, free trade, free men.[4]

        bg



        --- In LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Olson <jlolson53@...> wrote:
        >
        > Jeez. Buckley sure was one fucking confused dude when it came to economics
        > and moral theory. It's like he'd get about 2/3 of the way there, and then
        > the tangle of abstract logic would prove too much and his brain would
        > self-destruct. His (semi) belief in Georgism follows that trend nicely.
        >
        > JO
        >
        > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Bill <erm4you@...> wrote:
        >
        > > **

        > >
        > >
        > > William F. Buckley, Jr.: Henry George and the Single-Tax (an interview
        > > with Brian Lamb, CSpan Book Notes, April 2-3, 2000)
        > >
        > > CALLER: Mr. Buckley, it's a pleasure to talk to you.
        > >
        > > William F. Buckley, Jr.(WFB): Thank You.
        > >
        > > CALLER: I've heard you describe yourself as a Georgist, a follower of
        > > Henry George, but I haven't heard much in having you promote land value
        > > taxation and his theories, and I'm wondering why that is the case.
        > >
        > > WFB: It's mostly because I'm beaten down by my right-wing theorists and
        > > intellectual friends. They always find something wrong with the Single-Tax
        > > idea. What I'm talking about Mr. Lamb is Henry George who said there is
        > > infinite capacity to increase capital and to increase labor, but none to
        > > increase land, and since wealth is a function of how they play against each
        > > other, land should be thought of as common property. The effect of this
        > > would be that if you have a parking lot and the Empire State Building next
        > > to it, the tax on the parking lot should be the same as the tax on the
        > > Empire State Building, because you shouldn't encourage land speculation.
        > >
        > > Anyway I've run into tons of situations where I think the Single-Tax
        > > theory would be applicable. We should remember also this about Henry
        > > George, he was sort of co-opted by the socialists in the 20s and the 30s,
        > > but he was not one at all. Albert J. Nock's book on him makes that plain.
        > > Plus, also, he believes in only that tax. He believes in zero income tax.
        > >
        > > You look bored (addressing Brian Lamb)!
        > >
        > > BL: No, no. As a matter of fact I was going to ask you about this little
        > > book ("Lexicon, A Cornucopia of Wonderful Words for the Inquisitive Word
        > > Lover"). I'm fascinated by it. I'm going to see if you can pronounce the
        > > word, the-fear-of-having-peanut-butter-stuck-to-your-roof-of-your-mouth,
        > > This little book starts off and the fellow's name, is it Jesse
        > > Sheidlower?...
        > >
        > > WFB: I think so.
        > >
        > > BL: S-H-E-I-D-L-O-W-E-R? You've never read it (the Introduction to "The
        > > Lexicon").
        > >
        > > WFB: No. I never have.
        > >
        > > BL: (Quoting the book) "The first time I met William F. Buckley, we were
        > > both members of a televised panel discussing word. The moderator introduced
        > > me with a pop-quiz to test my credentials asked me to define the word..."
        > > Is it USUFRUCT?
        > >
        > > WFB: Usufruct, yeah.
        > >
        > > BL (Quoting the book) "I felt smug as I recite the right to enjoy
        > > another's property as long as you don't damage it. Then Mr. Buckley leaned
        > > into his microphone and quoted an entire paragraph on usufruct from the
        > > political economist, Henry George.
        > >
        > > WFB: Oh for heaven's sake!
        > >
        > > BL: And this little book has..
        > >
        > > WFB: The land belongs to those in usufruct.
        > >
        > >
        > > --- In LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Walker <jwalkernot@>
        > > wrote:
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > On 7/31/12 3:23 PM, Dan Clore wrote:
        > > >
        > > > > [William F.] Buckley claims to be a libertarian, but his
        > > libertarianism,
        > > > > like that of so many others, extends only in certain limited
        > > directions.
        > > > > He is all for "maximum freedom", but only in the sphere of economic
        > > > > exploitation by capitalists without tedious and bothersome government
        > > > > interference; in matters of opinion and expression he sings a very
        > > > > different tune. In McCarthy and His Enemies he hoped wistfully for a
        > > > > constitutional amendment to outlaw the expression of communist views,
        > > > > and he also saw no problem with the Atlanta city government's banning
        > > of
        > > > > a pro-African American film, even though one was being forced to see
        > > the
        > > > > film. No, Mr. Buckley does not seem inclined to bestow "freedom" upon
        > > > > opinions he doesn't like. Let us heed the words of a true libertarian,
        > > > > H.L. Mencken: "I am, in brief, a libertarian of the most extreme
        > > > > variety, and know of no human right that is one-tenth as valuable as
        > > the
        > > > > simple right to utter what seems (at the moment) to be the truth. Take
        > > > > away this right, and none other is worth a hoot; nor, indeed, can any
        > > > > other long exist."
        > > > > --S.T. Joshi, God's Defenders: What They Believe and Why They Are Wrong
        > > > >
        > > > > http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1591020808/ref=nosim/thedanclorenecro
        > > >
        > > > See also:
        > > >
        > > >
        > > http://jessewalker.blogspot.com/2003/05/old-book-review-that-never-found-home.html
        > > >
        > > > "...Aside from its mild (some would say half-assed) opposition to the
        > > > war on drugs, the book's libertarianism never extends beyond the most
        > > > universally held pro-freedom sentiments: that Communism is bad, that
        > > > government regulation sometimes goes too far, that there are goofy
        > > > goings-on on college campuses. Meanwhile, Buckley issues paeans to
        > > > Sidney Hook and Richard Nixon, defenses of military action everywhere
        > > > from Vietnam to Nicaragua to Iraq, and unqualified praise for Franco and
        > > > Pinochet.
        > > >
        > > > So what kind of libertarian is Buckley? 'I do not understand,' he
        > > > writes, 'where Congress got the idea that it has any business telling an
        > > > adult American what he can and what he cannot purchase from a willing
        > > > seller, if you're not talking drugs or machine guns.' Ah -- a
        > > > libertarian for drug laws and gun control. Interesting kind...."
        > > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        >


      • Harry Pollard
        Nock, Chodorov, and Buckley - all were Georgists. Maybe they saw something that some libertarians missed. According to Buckley, who was at Chodorov s deathbed,
        Message 3 of 22 , Aug 1, 2012
          Nock, Chodorov, and Buckley - all were Georgists.

          Maybe they saw something that some libertarians missed.

          According to Buckley, who was at Chodorov's deathbed, Chodorov's last words were:

          "Henry George above all others understood." 

          Would that more libertarians (many do) understand that a libertarian society without solving the land problem cannot survive. The landlords replace the State as they have so often in the past and people rebel against the manifest unfairness.

          Harry

          ********************
          The Alumni Group 
          The Henry George School
          of Los Angeles
          Tujunga   CA   90243
                 (818) 352-4141
          ********************



          On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:55 PM, jeff_riggenbach <haljam@...> wrote:
           

          Everyone would be for Georgism if they hadn't been tricked.

          JR

          --- In LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com, Dan <danust2012@...> wrote:
          >
          > That he was for Georgism is not really a point in Georgism's favor.
          >
          > My main problem with Buckley is he died far too late -- by several decades.
          >
          > Regards,
          >
          > Dan
          >
          > On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Jeff Olson <jlolson53@...> wrote:
          >
          > > Jeez. Buckley sure was one fucking confused dude when it came to economics and moral theory. It's like he'd get about 2/3 of the way there, and then the tangle of abstract logic would prove too much and his brain would self-destruct. His (semi) belief in Georgism follows that trend nicely.
          > >
          > >
          > > JO
          > >
          > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Bill <erm4you@...> wrote:
          > >
          > > William F. Buckley, Jr.: Henry George and the Single-Tax (an interview with Brian Lamb, CSpan Book Notes, April 2-3, 2000)
          > >
          > > CALLER: Mr. Buckley, it's a pleasure to talk to you.
          > >
          > > William F. Buckley, Jr.(WFB): Thank You.
          > >
          > > CALLER: I've heard you describe yourself as a Georgist, a follower of Henry George, but I haven't heard much in having you promote land value taxation and his theories, and I'm wondering why that is the case.
          > >
          > > WFB: It's mostly because I'm beaten down by my right-wing theorists and intellectual friends. They always find something wrong with the Single-Tax idea. What I'm talking about Mr. Lamb is Henry George who said there is infinite capacity to increase capital and to increase labor, but none to increase land, and since wealth is a function of how they play against each other, land should be thought of as common property. The effect of this would be that if you have a parking lot and the Empire State Building next to it, the tax on the parking lot should be the same as the tax on the Empire State Building, because you shouldn't encourage land speculation.
          > >
          > > Anyway I've run into tons of situations where I think the Single-Tax theory would be applicable. We should remember also this about Henry George, he was sort of co-opted by the socialists in the 20s and the 30s, but he was not one at all. Albert J. Nock's book on him makes that plain. Plus, also, he believes in only that tax. He believes in zero income tax.
          > >
          > > You look bored (addressing Brian Lamb)!
          > >
          > > BL: No, no. As a matter of fact I was going to ask you about this little book ("Lexicon, A Cornucopia of Wonderful Words for the Inquisitive Word Lover"). I'm fascinated by it. I'm going to see if you can pronounce the word, the-fear-of-having-peanut-butter-stuck-to-your-roof-of-your-mouth, This little book starts off and the fellow's name, is it Jesse Sheidlower?...
          > >
          > > WFB: I think so.
          > >
          > > BL: S-H-E-I-D-L-O-W-E-R? You've never read it (the Introduction to "The Lexicon").
          > >
          > > WFB: No. I never have.
          > >
          > > BL: (Quoting the book) "The first time I met William F. Buckley, we were both members of a televised panel discussing word. The moderator introduced me with a pop-quiz to test my credentials asked me to define the word..." Is it USUFRUCT?
          > >
          > > WFB: Usufruct, yeah.
          > >
          > > BL (Quoting the book) "I felt smug as I recite the right to enjoy another's property as long as you don't damage it. Then Mr. Buckley leaned into his microphone and quoted an entire paragraph on usufruct from the political economist, Henry George.
          > >
          > > WFB: Oh for heaven's sake!
          > >
          > > BL: And this little book has..
          > >
          > > WFB: The land belongs to those in usufruct.
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > --- In LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com, Jesse Walker <jwalkernot@> wrote:
          > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > > > On 7/31/12 3:23 PM, Dan Clore wrote:
          > > >
          > > > > [William F.] Buckley claims to be a libertarian, but his libertarianism,
          > > > > like that of so many others, extends only in certain limited directions.
          > > > > He is all for "maximum freedom", but only in the sphere of economic
          > > > > exploitation by capitalists without tedious and bothersome government
          > > > > interference; in matters of opinion and expression he sings a very
          > > > > different tune. In McCarthy and His Enemies he hoped wistfully for a
          > > > > constitutional amendment to outlaw the expression of communist views,
          > > > > and he also saw no problem with the Atlanta city government's banning of
          > > > > a pro-African American film, even though one was being forced to see the
          > > > > film. No, Mr. Buckley does not seem inclined to bestow "freedom" upon
          > > > > opinions he doesn't like. Let us heed the words of a true libertarian,
          > > > > H.L. Mencken: "I am, in brief, a libertarian of the most extreme
          > > > > variety, and know of no human right that is one-tenth as valuable as the
          > > > > simple right to utter what seems (at the moment) to be the truth. Take
          > > > > away this right, and none other is worth a hoot; nor, indeed, can any
          > > > > other long exist."
          > > > > --S.T. Joshi, God's Defenders: What They Believe and Why They Are Wrong
          > > > >
          > > > > http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1591020808/ref=nosim/thedanclorenecro
          > > >
          > > > See also:
          > > >
          > > > http://jessewalker.blogspot.com/2003/05/old-book-review-that-never-found-home.html
          > > >
          > > > "...Aside from its mild (some would say half-assed) opposition to the
          > > > war on drugs, the book's libertarianism never extends beyond the most
          > > > universally held pro-freedom sentiments: that Communism is bad, that
          > > > government regulation sometimes goes too far, that there are goofy
          > > > goings-on on college campuses. Meanwhile, Buckley issues paeans to
          > > > Sidney Hook and Richard Nixon, defenses of military action everywhere
          > > > from Vietnam to Nicaragua to Iraq, and unqualified praise for Franco and
          > > > Pinochet.
          > > >
          > > > So what kind of libertarian is Buckley? 'I do not understand,' he
          > > > writes, 'where Congress got the idea that it has any business telling an
          > > > adult American what he can and what he cannot purchase from a willing
          > > > seller, if you're not talking drugs or machine guns.' Ah -- a
          > > > libertarian for drug laws and gun control. Interesting kind...."
          > > >
          > >
          > >
          >


        • MikeHolmesTX@cs.com
          In a message dated 8/1/2012 11:14:29 AM Central Daylight Time, ... Yes, I m sure Buckley also heard his deathbed conversion to the Catholic faith. MH
          Message 4 of 22 , Aug 1, 2012
            In a message dated 8/1/2012 11:14:29 AM Central Daylight Time,
            harrypollard0@... writes:


            >
            >
            > According to Buckley, who was at Chodorov's deathbed, Chodorov's last
            > words were:
            >
            >
            > "Henry George above all others understood."
            >

            Yes, I'm sure Buckley also heard his deathbed conversion to the Catholic
            faith.

            MH</HTML>
          • Dan
            An alternative theory: maybe they were mistaken and missed something libertarians saw. Dan
            Message 5 of 22 , Aug 1, 2012
              An alternative theory: maybe they were mistaken and missed something libertarians saw.

              Dan

              On Aug 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Harry Pollard <harrypollard0@...> wrote:
               

              Nock, Chodorov, and Buckley - all were Georgists.


              Maybe they saw something that some libertarians missed.

              According to Buckley, who was at Chodorov's deathbed, Chodorov's last words were:

              "Henry George above all others understood." 

              Would that more libertarians (many do) understand that a libertarian society without solving the land problem cannot survive. The landlords replace the State as they have so often in the past and people rebel against the manifest unfairness.

              Harry

              ********************
              The Moron Group 
              The Henry George School
              of Los Angeles
              Tujunga   CA   90243
                     (818) 352-4141
              ********************

              On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:55 PM, jeff_riggenbach <haljam@...> wrote:
              Everyone would be for Georgism if they hadn't been tricked.

              JR

            • Roderick Long
              In any case, Buckley was mistaken about more things than Nock and Chodorov. R. ________________________________ From: Dan To:
              Message 6 of 22 , Aug 1, 2012
                In any case, Buckley was mistaken about more things than Nock and Chodorov.

                R.


                From: Dan <danust2012@...>
                To: "LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com" <LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com>
                Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 5:10 PM
                Subject: Re: [LeftLibertarian2] Re: Buckley as Libertarian



                An alternative theory: maybe they were mistaken and missed something libertarians saw.

                Dan

                On Aug 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Harry Pollard <harrypollard0@...> wrote:
                 
                Nock, Chodorov, and Buckley - all were Georgists.

                Maybe they saw something that some libertarians missed.

                According to Buckley, who was at Chodorov's deathbed, Chodorov's last words were:

                "Henry George above all others understood." 

                Would that more libertarians (many do) understand that a libertarian society without solving the land problem cannot survive. The landlords replace the State as they have so often in the past and people rebel against the manifest unfairness.

                Harry

                ********************
                The Moron Group 
                The Henry George School
                of Los Angeles
                Tujunga   CA   90243
                       (818) 352-4141
                ********************

                On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:55 PM, jeff_riggenbach <haljam@...> wrote:
                Everyone would be for Georgism if they hadn't been tricked.
                JR




              • Jeff Olson
                By lightyears. One lesson I take from this is that individuals with Georgist beliefs can be far more logic-minded than the ones on this list. Jeff
                Message 7 of 22 , Aug 1, 2012
                  By lightyears.

                  One lesson I take from this is that individuals with Georgist beliefs can be far more logic-minded than the ones on this list.  

                  Jeff

                  On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Roderick Long <berserkrl@...> wrote:
                   

                  In any case, Buckley was mistaken about more things than Nock and Chodorov.

                  R.


                  From: Dan <danust2012@...>
                  To: "LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com" <LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com>
                  Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 5:10 PM
                  Subject: Re: [LeftLibertarian2] Re: Buckley as Libertarian



                  An alternative theory: maybe they were mistaken and missed something libertarians saw.

                  Dan

                  On Aug 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Harry Pollard <harrypollard0@...> wrote:
                   
                  Nock, Chodorov, and Buckley - all were Georgists.

                  Maybe they saw something that some libertarians missed.

                  According to Buckley, who was at Chodorov's deathbed, Chodorov's last words were:

                  "Henry George above all others understood." 

                  Would that more libertarians (many do) understand that a libertarian society without solving the land problem cannot survive. The landlords replace the State as they have so often in the past and people rebel against the manifest unfairness.

                  Harry

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                  On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:55 PM, jeff_riggenbach <haljam@...> wrote:
                  Everyone would be for Georgism if they hadn't been tricked.
                  JR





                • Dan
                  We agree on that. Buckley embraced their mistake here while adding quite a few new ones. Regards, Dan
                  Message 8 of 22 , Aug 1, 2012
                    We agree on that. Buckley embraced their mistake here while adding quite a few new ones.

                    Regards,

                    Dan

                    On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Roderick Long <berserkrl@...> wrote:
                     

                    In any case, Buckley was mistaken about more things than Nock and Chodorov.

                    R.


                    From: Dan <danust2012@...>
                    To: "LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com" <LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com>
                    Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 5:10 PM
                    Subject: Re: [LeftLibertarian2] Re: Buckley as Libertarian



                    An alternative theory: maybe they were mistaken and missed something libertarians saw.

                    Dan

                    On Aug 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Harry Pollard <harrypollard0@...> wrote:
                     
                    Nock, Chodorov, and Buckley - all were Georgists.

                    Maybe they saw something that some libertarians missed.

                    According to Buckley, who was at Chodorov's deathbed, Chodorov's last words were:

                    "Henry George above all others understood." 

                    Would that more libertarians (many do) understand that a libertarian society without solving the land problem cannot survive. The landlords replace the State as they have so often in the past and people rebel against the manifest unfairness.

                    Harry

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                  • George H. Smith
                    Who knew that Bill Buckley was once interviewed by Woody Allen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNErWi_lTig&feature=related Ghs
                    Message 9 of 22 , Aug 2, 2012
                      Who knew that Bill Buckley was once interviewed by Woody Allen. 
                       
                       
                      Ghs
                    • Jesse Walker
                      ... In another TV special he interviewed Billy Graham.
                      Message 10 of 22 , Aug 3, 2012
                        On 8/3/12 12:44 AM, George H. Smith wrote:

                        > Who knew that Bill Buckley was once interviewed by Woody Allen.
                        > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNErWi_lTig&feature=related
                        > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNErWi_lTig&feature=related>

                        In another TV special he interviewed Billy Graham.
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