Re: Detroit Land Grab
- --- In LandCafe@yahoogroups.com, David Reed <dbcreed@...> wrote:
>I do have this (perhaps absurd) sense that LVT has a better chance in e.g., the UK, Australia, and Denmark than it does here. Not completely sure why. Partly, yes, because of despair over the U.S. political wasteland and being less familiar with what are no doubt political wastelands elsewhere. Partly, I guess, because, despite this being George's birthplace, the U.S. never had particularly hospitable soil, even when there was a trusted Single Taxer in the President's Cabinet. Anyhow, it's been nearly straight backwards here since the early 20th Century. We're much farther away from anything both good and substantial happening on this front than we were then.
> @walto Worried by all this existential despair over American political wasteland.You're not going to start writing Anglo-Catholic poetry are you ? (A better model might be the ash dump in The Great Gatsby; the one with the spectacles.The neo Gatsby
> could be wandering over this looking for Daisy, his Frisbee, which has been lost by Oliver Hardy.)Seriously, something will always turn up, as Micawber said.Another of the tribe of lost causes I support is Resale Price Maintenance ( I gave this a run-out on landcafe once and got shot up by Dan Sullivan,who with heavy-handed humour, kept calling it Revolutions per Minute).However, after years of dead silences every time I mentioned it ,the American Supreme Court re-legalised it in the case of Leegin Creative Leather vs PSKS dba Kays Kloset (2007) a case so significant,that it was n't even mentioned anywhere in the UK and in not much of the USA I'll be bound. Another lost cause is bank nationalisation. I was engaged ,via his blog, in trying to wind up John Redwood, the rather distinguished keeper of some kind of weird Tory flame or other, when the Credit Crunch was getting out of hand,by saying :nationalise the banks.Within a week the Labour Government had nationalised RBS/Nat West,so I was able to congratulate Redwood on the success of his blog-site in changing government policy. He was n't very pleased.The Liberals in the British coalition government have now started talking about an emergency Wealth Tax in the present crisis .Since nobody knows what this means ,the BBC News at 6 o'clock put up a caption with the two most likely measures: 1) Inheritance Tax 2)Land Value Tax with the voice-over explaining that this taxed not buildings but the land underneath. It is now possible for the usual LVT suspects to get letters printed in the papers ( well, the Guardian anyway).No doubt this is all very "boats against the current being pushed ceaselessly into the past" but you never know with politics.Things do change in an utterly unpredictable way ,(says he brightly, not really convincing himself.) Perhaps Lincoln and Schalkenbach (? so prominent I can't remember how to spell it) should go to the Supreme Court if the legal obstacles to LVT are such a problem in the US. To: LandCafe@yahoogroups.com
> From: calhorn@...
> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 18:56:22 +0000
> Subject: [LandCafe] Re: Detroit Land Grab
In other countries (also partly because of Parliamentary forms of government), it seems like things do and can go up and down: there are partial successes, failures, re-assertions, etc. Here, the only thing that goes up and down with respect to LVT are the number of posts in our little group and the number of articles in Smith's paper. It's rearranging, not the deck chairs on the Titanic, but the swimming positions in Hades.
Maybe if some little more easily governable country had a miraculous recovery that could be attributed to LVT, people might catch a clue here. I doubt it, but maybe.
- --- In LandCafe@yahoogroups.com, "walto" <calhorn@...> wrote:
> The main point of resorting to natural law pronoucements of the kind you have bellowed is that they are supposed to help us determine what the various human-made laws SHOULD say. That is, if we have a question about know how some law should be constructed with respect to, e.g., who should receive various benefits and for how long or which protections of person or property must be enforced, or whatever, natural law claims are sometimes made--just as you have confidently made them in this context. It is, thus plainly circular to respond, when asked to specify the characteristics of some claimed natural law, "You'll have to consult the local legislature and courts--they'll tell us."Which might be why I haven't done so. Citizenship self-evidently isn't a question of natural law, and I've explained why residence defined as six months + reflects the relevant natural law principles.
-- Roy Langston