Re: Why is no one here talking about Greece?
- --- In LandCafe@yahoogroups.com, "roy_langston1" <roy_langston1@...> wrote:
> > And two, on the other hand, functionality and valueWhich is why I used the doggone word "related" instead of "equivalent".
> > are related.
> "Related" is not the same as "equivalent."
> > But in the case of residential property, especiallyYes, not exact. Because, "there is no true value".
> > where there is zoning for residential (especially
> > zoning for a particular kind of residential (single
> > family) you have the "best use" and the relationship
> > between function and value is pretty closely tied.
> It's fairly close, but not exact.
> > > If the property would sellHave you ever been to parts of Detroit, Cleveland, Baltimore, St. Louis?
> > > for the same price without or without the house,
> > > the house has no value. It's just that simple.
> > This is a sound generalization, but it doesn't
> > flow in any way from your prior statement, either
> > in theory or in practical terms.
> Right, because the logic goes the other way: the
> generalization explains the particular fact.
> > Nor does it deal with the super distressed
> > neighborhood, where nobody wants to buy the
> > empty lot next door either.
> ?? How does it "not deal with" such cases?
> > There are times when the location is so bad that
> > it really does create a negative externality.
> It's possible but extremely rare.
There is nothing extremely rare about this at all? Why do you think there are numerous cities losing population.
> > "That's a great house, but I just couldn't liveWhat do you mean other potential buyers? For a single lot. Like I said there are auctions where no one shows up.
> > their with my family because the schools are so
> > bad and the crime is (or is perceived to be) so
> > high and the taxes (that part that falls on
> > improvements is so high in comparison to outside
> > the city.)"
> Other potential buyers might not care so much about
> the schools or crime.
> > I think that perhaps there can be a situationNo, it is not just a "financial liability". Human beings are not financial robots. There are other motivations beyond financial, such as moral and social considerations. Otherwise, why would anyone vote?
> > where land value is, at times, negative.
> Of course, and I have identified some. But it can only
> happen when ownership carries a financial liability
> that exceeds the economic benefits of use, such as an
> obligation to remediate contaminated soil, liens that
> must be satisfied, etc.
Surely, you've heard of the two economist who notice each other in line to vote: "If you don't tell anyone, I won't."
Even outside of the urban situation, consider farming communities on the great prairie. Ghost towns because people are just not interested in being farmers isolated from associations that drive progress.
- --- In LandCafe@yahoogroups.com, "John" <burns-john@...>
> Henry George was adamant that full Land Value Tax,I don't recall him saying that, and it certainly isn't
> the Single Tax, would mean all would gain, no losers.
true. Many people will lose, especially in the
transition period. That is why we must design the
transition to be as painless as possible for the great
majority of landowners: those who own only the land
under their dwellings. And that is why restoring the
equal individual right to liberty through a universal
individual exemption (or, second best, a CD) is crucial
to our success. This is something Henry George either
did not understand or did not give enough weight to, or
the exemption would have been a central feature of his
Single Tax advocacy.
> All boats rise on the same rising tide.Er, those who can't be bothered swimming or walking are
drowned by a rising tide.
> * Will the corporations still be loyal to the US?Is a tapeworm loyal to its host?
> * Will they do everything to get the LVTYes. And that will include assassination. Let's not
> implementing government out?
kid ourselves on that score. This is serious business,
and the vital interests of some very powerful and
deeply evil people are at stake.
-- Roy Langston