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Re: [Lambeth_Cyclists] Fwd: Upper Ground Update

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  • Arnott Davies
    Where exactly is Rouell Road From: Alex Crawford Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:03 PM To: Southwark Cyclists e-group ;
    Message 1 of 4 , Nov 25, 2012
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      Where exactly is Rouell Road
      Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:03 PM
      Subject: [Lambeth_Cyclists] Fwd: Upper Ground Update

      Please see the update below from Louise Nagle, Road Network Manager at Southwark Council who I met on Thursday.
      More on Monday I hope...

      ---------- Forwarded message ----------
      From: Nagle, Louise


      It was good to meet with you yesterday. I wanted to provide an update on
      what steps were are taking following on from our discussion, so you have
      the information for your members.

      1) Two Network Inspectors are on site today and will be monitoring the
      implementation of the closure to observe the behaviour of vehicles,
      cyclists and pedestrians.
      2) Ian Law is on site this morning measuring up in Rouell Road to allow us to consider the possibility of an
      additional cycle contra flow
      . This will require an additional traffic
      order and also some consideration of the legal and helpful signage, so I
      will be able to provide a further update on this by the beginning of
      next week.
      3) I have spoken to TfL this morning and I am hopefully that we will be
      able to coordinate the cycle contra flow quite quickly.
      TfL will come
      back to me this morning to confirm, but they have escalated this to a
      senior level.

      If there is any further information you need or further suggestions,
      please let me know. I will keep you updated if I receive further
      feedback from TfL.


      Louise Nagle
      Road Network Manager
      LB Southwark
      Environment & Leisure

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      Alex Crawford

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    • Vivian McClew
      I used Upper Ground for a whole month while working as a contractor in Holborn (on Kingsway, the most pedestrian unfriendly road in the universe!), and I have
      Message 2 of 4 , Nov 25, 2012
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        I used Upper Ground for a whole month while working as a contractor in Holborn (on Kingsway, the most pedestrian unfriendly road in the universe!), and I have to wonder, why is this road not closed off to motorized traffic? Massive tourists coaches park there occupying half of an already very narrow road, that in any case can never be a two way street! And pedestrians crossing without even looking, so why not just remove motorized traffic? Is there a particular reason not to do this?


        We wouldn’t be in this situation if the road was pedestrianized.





        “We learned more from a three minute record than we ever learned in school”. No Surrender


        From: Lambeth_Cyclists@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Lambeth_Cyclists@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ross Corben
        Sent: 25 November 2012 10:01
        To: Lambeth_Cyclists@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [Lambeth_Cyclists] Fwd: Upper Ground Update


        this is to do with banning cyclists from Upper Ground?


        surely as it forms a junction with Blackfriars Road, TLRN, there should have been a check at the time that its effects on the road network was confirmed, what the effect on cycles was going to be?


        If Southwark was asleep on this, were TfL also?


        even with a cycling Mayor, is the system fit for purpose anymore?


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