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RE: Menacing Wolf-Dogs

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  • Aarde V. Atheian
    Sharon, Here it is. See also my correspondence with Jane and Joel. North Central Shelter 3201 Lacy Street, Los Angeles, CA 90031 888-4LAPET1 or 888-452-7381,
    Message 1 of 4 , Mar 4 9:29 AM
      Sharon,
      Here it is. See also my correspondence with Jane and Joel.

      North Central Shelter
      3201 Lacy Street, Los Angeles, CA 90031
      888-4LAPET1 or 888-452-7381, FAX 213-847-0555
      Tuesday - Saturday (8:00AM - 5:00PM)
      Sunday (12:00PM - 4:00PM)
      Zip Codes Serviced:
      90004 90015 90023* 90029 90038 90057 90071
      90012 90017 90026 90031 90039 90063*

      ~Aard

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      From: notify@yahoogroups.com [mailto:notify@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      sharonhouston_sharonhouston
      Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:40 AM
      To: Aarde V. Atheian
      Subject: Re: Menacing Wolf-Dogs

      can someone post the number to animal control? if more than one of us call,
      maybe they'll come out and get the wolfman as well as the jerks with the
      german shepherd and the yorkies. these days, the city seems to be handing
      out tickets like candy so maybe they'll welcome the information and take
      action.
      __________________________________________________________________________
      From: JEUsher@... [mailto:JEUsher@...]
      Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:44 AM
      To: athein@...
      Cc: jane.usher@...
      Subject: Re: [LVNA90004] RE: Menacing Wolf-Dogs
      Dear Aard --
      Can you get me the address of the apartment or even the name of this person
      off of his mailbox or from a neighbor in his building? I am the Special
      Assistant City Attorney and I can try to get Animal Services to act.
      Jane Usher
      218 S. Windsor Boulevard
      work phone (213) 978-8354
      jane.usher@...
      ------------------------------------
      From: Aarde V. Atheian [mailto:Athein@...]
      Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 8:08 AM
      To: 'JEUsher@...'
      Subject: RE: [LVNA90004] RE: Menacing Wolf-Dogs

      Jane,
      What serendipity.
      What good fortune and so close to the theatre of events too.
      Yes, I will try to.
      Will keep you posted.
      Finally this guy will learn to value civility over thinking his animals do
      not need to be frustrated with leashes for the convenience of others who
      must share his street.
      ~Aard
      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      From: Joel Delman [mailto:joeldelman@...]
      Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:26 AM
      To: athein@...
      Subject: Re: Menacing Wolf-Dogs
      Honestly what you are describing sounds like a problem that should be taken
      up with the District Attorney's office as a case of assault, attempted
      assault or similar... I'm not a criminal lawyer but if what you say is true
      it is far more than a violation of leash law and should be taken that route.
      Best, Joel
      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      From: Aarde V. Atheian [mailto:Athein@...]
      Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 8:55 AM
      To: 'Joel Delman'
      Subject: RE: Menacing Wolf-Dogs

      Joel,
      Thanks for your supporting sentiments. Although I have gotten used to the
      situation now by carrying a knife in my pocket just in case their jaws got
      to clamp on my legs, I remember a time when those dogs had me cornered and
      immobilized, I told the owner could you please call off your dogs so I can
      move on. He said Shut up; I don't want to hear from you, you're always
      causing a problem with my dogs.
      See my letter to Jane below.
      ~Aard
    • sarita
      One can only hope that one day the wolf dog will eat the Chihuahuas. _____ From: LVNA90004@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LVNA90004@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      Message 2 of 4 , Mar 4 11:53 AM
        One can only hope that one day the wolf dog will eat the Chihuahuas.



        _____

        From: LVNA90004@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LVNA90004@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
        Of Aarde V. Atheian
        Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:59 AM
        To: LVNA90004@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [LVNA90004] RE: Menacing Wolf-Dogs





        The owner lives on the second apartment on the W side of Windsor on Clinton.
        He is a white guy in his late twenties. He's got three dogs. All of them
        seem to be hostile and threatening. His most menacing dog is a mix of wild
        Wolf and German Sheppard. He waits until midnight to take them out, always
        and without exception without a leash. The dogs always race towards me on
        sight. They gallop barkingly towards me to corral and corner me even from a
        block away from the SE corner of Clinton and Plymouth.

        I can recall five such incidents where the wolf-dog attacked forcing me to
        freeze motionless lest they bit me, like they do with bears. They stopped
        five feet short of biting my feet. Each time I told this guy that what he
        was doing was illegal, taking untamed dogs like this on leash-free midnight
        walks. Each time he told me to shut up and eat crap. He tells me to walk on
        the north bank of Clinton if I was so afraid of his dogs. I finally decided
        I would but now I carry a knife on me as well just in case his dogs attacked
        me on the north side of Clinton too. I have complained to the La Bonge
        office and to animal control. After dragging their feet for six months they
        took no action. And so the saga continues.

        ~Aard

        Aarde V. Atheian, 560 N. Plymouth Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90004-1411, Ph
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        Mon Mar 1, 2010 2:26 pm (PST)

        First let me start by saying that I have nothing against people who have
        dogs that are well mannered, nice to others and controllable when walking
        off-leash in the neighborhood. On the other hand, when dogs are none of the
        above and are walked off-leash, I have a problem with it.

        Here's my story in a nutshell. For the past 2 years, I've been dealing with
        a couple that lives in an apartment building on Clinton. They have 3 dogs,
        one German Shepard and 2 Chihuahuas. They refuse to walk them on their
        leashes. These dogs are not friendly, in fact, they are mean spirited and
        uncontrollable. When I walk my dog, who is always on a leash and is
        friendly, their dogs come after him and try to attack him. Their dogs have
        even crossed the street to try to get to my dog.

        To make a long story short, I've gone back and forth with these people, for
        like I said, 2 years now, trying to tell them that they need to put their
        dogs on their leashes. First they ignored me. Now they've resorted to
        flipping me off and calling me an Asshole. I finally reached the end of my
        patience last month and called the Department of Animal Control and reported
        them. They said they would send them a letter and patrol the area, in hopes
        to catch them and cite them. So far, I know that hasn't happened. Does
        anyone have any other suggestions of what I should do? Also, if you know who
        I'm talking about and have had the same issue, I'd really like to hear from
        you.

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      • Aarde V. Atheian
        Jane I hasten to remind you that you have two distinct, separate and isolated cases here. In the Soriano case, the offender lives 1-1/2 block E of Wilton. In
        Message 3 of 4 , Mar 4 7:23 PM
          Jane
          I hasten to remind you that you have two distinct, separate and isolated cases here.
          In the Soriano case, the offender lives 1-1/2 block E of Wilton.
          In my case (the wolfdog breed one) the offender lives on 593 N Windsor Blvd at Clinton St.
          ~Aard

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Jane Usher [mailto:Jane.Usher@...]
          Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:49 PM
          To: Michael Soriano
          Cc: athein@...
          Subject: Fw: [LVNA90004] RE: Menacing Wolf-Dogs

          Thanks to you both. Let me see what I can accomplish (if anything).
          Jane


          >>> Michael Soriano <mrsoriano@...> 3/4/2010 11:31 AM >>>
          Hello Jane,
          I sent the original email to the LVNA90004 group a few days ago about
          the Leash Law and the couple on Clinton that I'm having the problem
          with. Did you see it? In any case, this sounds like the same
          person/couple with the German Shepard.

          Here's their info;
          Daniel & Cecilia Lopaz
          5145 Clinton Ave., #5
          Los Angeles, CA 90004

          Not only do they walk their dogs without their leashes, they don't
          Pick up after the dogs deficate. These people are bad news and have no
          consideration or respect for others.

          I've reported them to the North Central Division of Animal Contol.
          Case # A10-001147

          However you can help will be greatly appreciated by many of us in the
          neighborhood.

          Please feel free to contact me if you would like to discuss.

          Thank you,
          Michael Soriano
          5141 La Vista Court
          Los Angeles, CA 90004
          Cel: 323.236.8721


          --- On Thu, 3/4/10, Aarde V. Atheian <athein@...> wrote:
          From: Aarde V. Atheian <athein@...>
          Subject: [LVNA90004] RE: Menacing Wolf-Dogs
          To: "'sharonhouston_sharonhouston'" <sharonhouston@...>
          Cc: LVNA90004@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 9:29 AM

          Sharon,
          Here it is. See also my correspondence with Jane and Joel.

          North Central Shelter
          3201 Lacy Street, Los Angeles, CA 90031
          888-4LAPET1 or 888-452-7381, FAX 213-847-0555
          Tuesday - Saturday (8:00AM - 5:00PM)
          Sunday (12:00PM - 4:00PM)
          Zip Codes Serviced:
          90004 90015 90023* 90029 90038 90057 90071
          90012 90017 90026 90031 90039 90063*
          ~Aard



          -----Original Message-----
          From: notify@yahoogroups. com [mailto:notify@yahoogroups. com] On
          Behalf Of

          sharonhouston_ sharonhouston

          Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:40 AM

          To: Aarde V. Atheian

          Subject: Re: Menacing Wolf-Dogs



          can someone post the number to animal control? if more than one of us
          call,

          maybe they'll come out and get the wolfman as well as the jerks with
          the

          german shepherd and the yorkies. these days, the city seems to be
          handing

          out tickets like candy so maybe they'll welcome the information and
          take

          action.

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          From: JEUsher@aol. com [mailto:JEUsher@aol. com]

          Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:44 AM

          To: athein@.... com

          Cc: jane.usher@lacity. org

          Subject: Re: [LVNA90004] RE: Menacing Wolf-Dogs

          Dear Aard --

          Can you get me the address of the apartment or even the name of this
          person

          off of his mailbox or from a neighbor in his building? I am the
          Special

          Assistant City Attorney and I can try to get Animal Services to act.

          Jane Usher

          218 S. Windsor Boulevard

          work phone (213) 978-8354

          jane.usher@lacity. org

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          From: Aarde V. Atheian [mailto:Athein@.... com]

          Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 8:08 AM

          To: 'JEUsher@aol. com'

          Subject: RE: [LVNA90004] RE: Menacing Wolf-Dogs



          Jane,

          What serendipity.

          What good fortune and so close to the theatre of events too.

          Yes, I will try to.

          Will keep you posted.

          Finally this guy will learn to value civility over thinking his
          animals do

          not need to be frustrated with leashes for the convenience of others
          who

          must share his street.

          ~Aard

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          From: Joel Delman [mailto:joeldelman@mac. com]

          Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:26 AM

          To: athein@.... com

          Subject: Re: Menacing Wolf-Dogs

          Honestly what you are describing sounds like a problem that should be
          taken

          up with the District Attorney's office as a case of assault, attempted

          assault or similar... I'm not a criminal lawyer but if what you say is
          true

          it is far more than a violation of leash law and should be taken that
          route.

          Best, Joel

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          From: Aarde V. Atheian [mailto:Athein@.... com]

          Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 8:55 AM

          To: 'Joel Delman'

          Subject: RE: Menacing Wolf-Dogs



          Joel,

          Thanks for your supporting sentiments. Although I have gotten used to
          the

          situation now by carrying a knife in my pocket just in case their jaws
          got

          to clamp on my legs, I remember a time when those dogs had me cornered
          and

          immobilized, I told the owner could you please call off your dogs so I
          can

          move on. He said Shut up; I don't want to hear from you, you're always

          causing a problem with my dogs.

          See my letter to Jane below.

          ~Aard
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