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  • adeucalion
    In the past I have downloaded supposedly live iso files of os s and tried to make a bootable cd/dvd. The site assured me that the file would boot. When I burn
    Message 1 of 8 , Sep 30, 2013
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      In the past I have downloaded supposedly live iso files of os's and tried to make a bootable cd/dvd. The site assured me that the file would boot. When I burn it though It makes a folder with the system files inside and the bios cannot find the kernel. I am concluding that I am using the wrong burn software(roxio) or selecting the wrong options. Can someone suggest an alternate way to get a distro installed?
    • Scott
      ... You can try using unetbootin. (I m assuming that you are doing this from Windows.) http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ You can t just copy the iso to a CD
      Message 2 of 8 , Sep 30, 2013
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        On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 02:33:52PM -0700, adeucalion@... wrote:
        >
        >
        > In the past I have downloaded supposedly live iso files of os's and tried to
        > make a bootable cd/dvd. The site assured me that the file would boot. When I
        > burn it though It makes a folder with the system files inside and the bios
        > cannot find the kernel. I am concluding that I am using the wrong burn software
        > (roxio) or selecting the wrong options. Can someone suggest an alternate way to
        > get a distro installed?


        You can try using unetbootin. (I'm assuming that you are doing this from
        Windows.) http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

        You can't just copy the iso to a CD Rom. I'm unfamiliar with how Windows
        does it, but there should be an option to create an image, rather than just
        copy the iso file.

        Several distributions also offer images that can be copied directly to USB
        sticks, if that's an option for you.

        If you mention which distribution you want to try, someone will probably
        have some experience with that specific distribution. Also mention what
        system you're using to burn it.

        Lastly, though you probably know this, some computers only have a CD drive,
        and a person tries to burn a DVD image to a CD which won't work.


        --
        Scott Robbins
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      • Martin Rosenfeld
        I used my wife s Windows 7 with no extra programs loaded and there was an option to burn an iso, but I don t remember where. Martin Rosenfeld
        Message 3 of 8 , Sep 30, 2013
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          I used my wife's Windows 7 with no extra programs loaded and there was
          an option to burn an iso, but I don't remember where.

          Martin Rosenfeld
        • James Jolin
          Did you just burn the iso or did you burn an image? Jim wa9arb
          Message 4 of 8 , Sep 30, 2013
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            Did you just burn the iso or did you burn an image?
            Jim wa9arb



            On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:33 PM, <adeucalion@...> wrote:
             

            In the past I have downloaded supposedly live iso files of os's and tried to make a bootable cd/dvd. The site assured me that the file would boot. When I burn it though It makes a folder with the system files inside and the bios cannot find the kernel. I am concluding that I am using the wrong burn software(roxio) or selecting the wrong options. Can someone suggest an alternate way to get a distro installed?


          • Scott
            ... I m not that familiar with how Win7 does it. It is quite possible that it just copied the iso file to the CD--so that if you mount the CD, you d see
            Message 5 of 8 , Oct 1, 2013
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              On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 04:28:53PM -0700, Martin Rosenfeld wrote:
              > I used my wife's Windows 7 with no extra programs loaded and there was
              > an option to burn an iso, but I don't remember where.

              I'm not that familiar with how Win7 does it. It is quite possible that it
              just copied the iso file to the CD--so that if you mount the CD, you'd see
              nothing but the iso file.

              Looking at
              http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/burn-a-cd-or-dvd-from-an-iso-file
              it seems that you can't burn an image with Windows built in tools (judging
              from the Notes section at the bottom).

              The best thing to do is google the distribution you're planning to install
              with terms like

              burn ubuntu cd from iso in windows

              or the like. Trying the one above gives
              http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows which seems
              to indicate that despite that other article, you might be able to use the
              Windows tools. Unfortunately, I'm just guessing, because I don't have a
              Windows machine to test any of it.


              --
              Scott Robbins
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            • linuxducks
              The ISO is the image. Similar is when you set a Restore Point for Windows System Restore – it performs a “system snapshot” of that instant of everything
              Message 6 of 8 , Oct 1, 2013
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                The ISO is the image. Similar is when you set a Restore Point for Windows System Restore – it performs a “system snapshot” of that instant of everything on the PC and when the Restore Point is chosen in the task, it restores the entire system and files to that instant of the Restore point (system snapshot). The ISO means somewhat like the system snapshot but is called the “image” meaning the entire operating system in for a media format – the operating sytem image on media format = CD/DVD. Same as when you would buy a Windows copy – it is a Windows ISO.
                 
                Really simple and has worked all the time for me is this....
                 
                InfraRecorder
                InfraRecorder is a free CD/DVD burning solution for Microsoft Windows. It offers a wide range of powerful features; all through an easy to use application interface and Windows Explorer integration. [Record disc images (ISO and BIN/CUE) ].
                 
                First download the Linux Distro you want like example latest Ubuntu or Debian. That is the ISO operating system image. Download it on Windows (you are on) to like Downloads Folder so you know where it is at easily. Then download and install InfraRecorder and install it on Windows. Launch the InfraRecorder software and have a blank CD/DVD in the drawer to burn to.
                 
                At ACTIONS tab choose BURN IMAGE. This will open the panel to locate your Linux ISo Image. Choose it. InfraRecorder is now ready to burn it to CD/DVD (some Distros may have older CD available but DVD is generally always chosen now – bigger, and usually always just one disk. Burning to CD may take several as with Debian).
                 
                Again at ACTIONS tab choose BURN IMAGE. The new panel with information and ready to go appears. Burn it! Done. Wait the several seconds for burn operation – probably 30 seconds. Done. You now have the Linux distro of choice in bootable fashion as a Live Distro with option to install or dual boot install. Not just the Live Distro demo of the system is available, BUT the entire Linux OS (operating system – distro you chose as Debian, Ubuntu etc) is on the DVD (or CDs). So you are good to go after checking out the Distro that if you decide to go ahead and install it, you can do it right from where you are. The little icon to install the system will appear on the desktop background. To install simply double click it. Options will appear to dual boot or wipe the disk and just install Linux or manual set up of partitions. Most popular ditros are all pretty much automatic and only take a few clicks to install Linux. There are the several windows you go through and especially if you wish to dual boot install so that – no mistake – this will NOT automatically install Linux wiping out your copy of Windows. You will need to manually choose how you wish to install Linux.
                 
                I had a couple of netbooks which have no CD/DVD Drawer but I have a side drive which operates the same fashion and procedures as a Desktopwith CD/DVD drawer (drive built in).
                 
                SOME MORE ISO BURNERS SOFTWARES...... http://linuxducks.webs.com/apps/links/
                 
                Active ISO Burner (License - free)
                Active ISO Burner will allow you to burn an ISO image file to CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD+R DL(Dual Layer), DVD-RW and DVD+RW (including double layer, DL). Active ISO Burner software accepts command line parameters to automate ISO images burning process.
                 
                ISO Recorder
                Your CDs have to be converted to ISO files. That is not as hard as it sounds. Programs like Nero can do it, but there is another free tool for XP that will let you create ISO files in a flash. Welcome to the ISO Recorder download page. ISO Recorder is a tool (power toy) for Windows XP, 2003 and now Windows Vista, that allows (depending on the Windows version) to burn CD and DVD images (DVD support is only available on Windows Vista), copy disks, make images of the existing data CDs and DVDs and create ISO images from a content of a disk folder. ISO Recorder has been conceived during Windows XP beta program, when Microsoft for the first time started distributing new OS builds as ISO images. Even though the new OS had CD-burning support (by Roxio), it did not have an ability to record an image. ISO Recorder has filled this need and has been one of the poular Windows downloads ever since.
                 
                ImgBurn (Blu-Ray ! )
                ImgBurn is a lightweight CD / DVD / HD DVD / Blu-ray burning application that everyone should have in their toolkit! It has several 'Modes', each one for performing a different task... ImgBurn supports a wide range of image file formats - including BIN, DI, DVD, GI, IMG, ISO, MDS, NRG and PDI.... Oh and let's not forget the best thing about it.... it's 100% FREE ;-)
                 
                InfraRecorder
                InfraRecorder is a free CD/DVD burning solution for Microsoft Windows. It offers a wide range of powerful features; all through an easy to use application interface and Windows Explorer integration. [Record disc images (ISO and BIN/CUE) ].
                 
                Free virtual CD ROM for Windows XP
                This free program for Windows XP lets you create a virtual CD drive on your hard disk. Some visitors to the site have confirmed that it works with Windows 2000 too (but this is not stated in Microsoft's official readme). For anyone unfamiliar with the terms 'virtual CD' or 'CD emulator', they mean that you can copy the entire contents of a CD-ROM to your hard disk and run the programs or access the files without the need for the original CD. This can make files more accessible, faster and more convenient. Given the speed and size of today's hard drives, you could easily fit a number of CDs onto your hard drive without noticing the difference. Assuming you had 30 full CDs, these would take around 20GB on a hard drive and all will be accessible after a few clicks of a mouse. As mentioned above, this program is free, and it is absolutely tiny at just 0.06MB. There are many similar commercial programs around, but they will set you back $50-$100 and can be substantially larger.
                 
                FOR NETBOOK..... USB DRIVE LIVE DISTRO:
                The alternate way is to download your Linux Distro on Windows to Downloads Folder. Install Netbootin or Universal USB Installer (most popular, easy). Make sure you have a USB Drive and NOT a USB Media stick (same price). It has to be a USB Drive sometimes called a thumb drive and make sure it has enough space – I would get a standard 2 or actually a 4 Gigs memory space is best (10 – 15 – 20 USD – U.S. dollars). Plug in the USB Drive and make sure it is empty. You can click Computer from the start menu. This window will display Drives on the PC and the USB Drive is probably listed as the E Drive (C Drive is Local Drive with Windows and all Files and never touch it!). The USB Drive will also display its name like example - E-Drive SanDisk. You can right click that Icon and options menu pops up and you can choose Format which will erase all contents of the USB Drive safely again and again a zillion times. Or the Netbootin or Universal USB Installer software will tell you the drive is not empty and can also perform wipe it (erase all contents) before trasnferring the Linux Distro to the Thumb Drive. BE VERY CAREFUL YOU INDEED IDENTIFY THE LETTER OF THE THUMB DRIVE BEFORE CHOOSING TO ERASE ALL CONTENTS. Again do that by clicking COMPUTER from the Start Menu (lower left) where all drives are listed with their description and drive letter assigned.
                 
                Safely eject the USB Drive after your ISO is transferred to it (flushes the temporary files. clean up). Now plug it in again. The USB Thumb Drive with the Linux Distro ISO Image transferred onto it is going to act the same way as the DVD as far as when laucnhed, displaying the Live Distro and ability to  install. You will be presented with these choices at boot up.
                With the USB Drive with Live Distro ready to go click RESTART and continually tap the ESCAPE button up top far left on keyboard. If any problems you will need to shut down. Leave USB Drive in. Now Start the PC and continually tap the F2 key way up top on keyboard (some manufacturers use F12) which will open BIOS. You will need to go over to the Boot sector tab and move the USB Drive to the top of the list and then clkick F10 / Save Changes and will automatically boot your USB Drive on restart automatically. When done with either Live Distro demo or installing don’t forget to re-enter BIOS and make sure your normal hard drive is at top of list.
                (You may wish to memorize or write down the exact order you see when you first enter BIOS and then double check that afterwards so you know you are good to go as normal operation of the computer).
                 
                gerald philly pa usa
                 
                 
                 
                Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:33 PM
                Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Distro downloads and burns


                In the past I have downloaded supposedly live iso files of os's and tried to make a bootable cd/dvd. The site assured me that the file would boot. When I burn it though It makes a folder with the system files inside and the bios cannot find the kernel. I am concluding that I am using wrong burn software(roxio) or selecting the wrong options. Can someone suggest an alternate way to get a distro installed?
                 
              • david poston
                It is under Maintenance. Then Create A System Repair Disk .
                Message 7 of 8 , Oct 1, 2013
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                  It is under Maintenance. Then 'Create A System Repair Disk'.


                  On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Martin Rosenfeld <rosenfeldmj@...> wrote:
                   

                  I used my wife's Windows 7 with no extra programs loaded and there was
                  an option to burn an iso, but I don't remember where.

                  Martin Rosenfeld


                • linuxducks
                  ISO image http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/I/ISO_image.html From: adeucalion@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:33 PM To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
                  Message 8 of 8 , Oct 1, 2013
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                    Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:33 PM
                    Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Distro downloads and burns


                    In the past I have downloaded supposedly live iso files of os's and tried to make a bootable cd/dvd. The site assured me that the file would boot. When I burn it though It makes a folder with the system files inside and the bios cannot find the kernel. I am concluding that I am using the wrong burn software(roxio) or selecting the wrong options. Can someone suggest an alternate way to get a distro installed?
                     
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