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RE: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Hi/Advice on Choosing Which Linux Distribution to Select?

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  • Mohsin Khan
    If you do not wish to partition your disk, then try winlinux. I have used it and it is great for newbies. ... From: bravo_charlie_delta
    Message 1 of 11 , Jul 3, 2002
      If you do not wish to partition your disk, then try winlinux. I have
      used it and it is great for newbies.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: bravo_charlie_delta [mailto:bravo_charlie_delta@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 6:09 PM
      To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Hi/Advice on Choosing Which Linux
      Distribution to Select?

      Hi, Andres:

      Thank you for your advice and the links. They are very helpful.

      Yes, I have a wee bit of DOS 6.x knowledge, but I am most assuredly
      no expert. I guess one might say that I am "decent" with Win 3X-9X
      OSs, and pretty OK with Win NT4.0 & 2K (which we have at our
      corporate HQ.)

      My primary concern is that I have never partitioned a HDD and have
      heard some rather gruesome tales, via BBs and Lists, about using the
      latest version of Partition Magic and other similar utilities. I am
      also confused about whether to use LILO or Lindows and if Redhat or
      SuSE are self-install/automatically partitioning, and how to go about
      partitioning the HDD in the proper manner. I can't right now afford
      a separate HDD which, I guess, would make thinks quite a bit easier.

      Anyway, here are my full System specs w/ obvious deletions for
      security purposes.

      Operating System System Model
      Windows Millennium Edition Dell Computer Corporation Dimension 8100
      System Service Tag: deleted
      Chassis Serial Number: deleted
      Processor a Main Circuit Board
      1700 megahertz Intel Pentium 4
      8 kilobyte primary memory cache
      256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: Dell Computer
      Corporation Dimension 8100
      Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
      BIOS: Dell Computer Corporation A06 04/20/2001
      Drives Memory Modules
      59.98 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
      55.10 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

      _NEC NR-7800A [CD-ROM drive]
      SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616 [CD-ROM drive]
      Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")

      Maxtor 5T060H6 (60.00 GB) [Hard drive] -- drive 0 512 Megabytes
      Installed Memory
      256 Megabyte Module Size - 2 Installed
      2 Memory Sockets are Empty
      Local Drive Volumes

      c: (on drive 0) 59.98 GB 55.10 GB free

      Network Drives


      Controllers Printers
      Standard Floppy Disk Controller
      Intel(r) 82801BA Ultra ATA Storage Controller
      Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
      Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) Acrobat PDFWriter on LPT1:

      Display
      64MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce3 (Dell) [Display adapter]
      Plug and Play Monitor
      Bus Adapters Multimedia
      Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller 1
      Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller 2 Creative SB
      Live! Value (WDM)
      Game Port for Creative SB Live!
      Wave Device for Voice Modem
      Communications Other Devices
      Conexant HCF V90 56K RTAD Speakerphone PCI Modem
      3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)
      Network Card MAC Address: deleted Conexant PCI Modem Enumerator
      Hewlett Packard ScanJet 5300C
      Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
      HID-compliant mouse
      Other Logitech USB Mouse
      Standard PS/2 Port Mouse
      HP Parallel Adapter
      USB Root Hub
      USB Root Hub
      Software Licenses

      Adobe Systems, Inc. - Adobe PhotoDeluxe Business Edition 1.1 serial #
      deleted
      Microsoft - Internet Explorer 6.0 (other IDs deleted)
      Microsoft - MediaPlayer (latest version, ID deleted)
      Microsoft - IntelliPoint 11111-111-1111111-11111
      Microsoft - Office XP 2002 (reg. deleted)
      Microsoft - Windows Millennium Edition (Ids deleted)
      Microsoft - Office XP Small Business (Ids/regs deleted)

      Software Versions
      Adaptec - CD Jewel Version 1.04 (400)*
      Adaptec - DirectCD Version 3.04 (205)*
      Adaptec - DirectCD Version 3.04 (206)*
      Adaptec - Easy CD Creator Version 4.04 (400)*
      Adaptec - Easy CD Creator Version 4.04 (401S1)*
      Adaptec - Web-CheckUp Version 1.01e (305)*
      Adobe Acrobat Reader Version 5.0.5.0*
      Adobe Acrobat Version 4.0.000*
      Adobe PhotoDeluxe Business Edition Version 1.1*
      Adobe Type Manager Version 4.00L*
      America Online, Inc. - AOL Instant Messenger (SM) Version 4.3.2229*
      Belarc Advisor and BelLive - Belarc's Content Personalization with
      Privacy Version 5.0m*
      BroadJump - Road Runner Medic Version 1,1,1,0*
      Cinematronics - 3D Pinball Version 4.90.3000.1*
      Creative Diagnostics Version 1.43.04*
      Creative Launcher Version 1.0*
      Creative PlayCenter Version 1.51*
      Creative Recorder Version 1.02*
      Creative Restore Defaults Version 1.07*
      Creative SB Live! Experience Version 1.3.2*
      Creative Technology Ltd. - AudioHQ Version 1.0.193*
      Creative WaveStudio Version 4.08*
      Dell Computer Corporation - LaunchRx Application Version 1, 3, 0, 0*
      Fishbone Designs - NAB Conduit Install Application Version 1, 0, 0, 1*
      Full Circle Talkback Version 2.2*
      Hemera Technologies Inc. www.hemera.com - Photo-Objects Gallery for
      HP Version 2.55*
      Hewlett-Packard - HP PrecisionScan scanning software Version 3.03*
      Hewlett-Packard - HP ScanJet Copier Utility Version 3.1*
      I.R.I.S. SA - readiris Version 5, 0, 0, 1*
      InstallShield Software Corporation - PackageForTheWeb Stub Version
      2.02.001*
      InterVideo WinDVD Version 3.0.30.2*
      iolo technologies, LLC - System Mechanic Version 3.7.5.0*
      javaw.exe*
      Launch Swat It *
      LavaSoft - Ad-aware, multi spyware removal utility Version 5.8*
      LavaSoft - REGHANCE 2.0 Version 1.5*
      Lavasoft Refupdate Version 2.01*
      LavaSoft Sweden - Ad-aware plus Version 2.0*
      Macromedia Director Version 7.0*
      Microsoft (r) PCHealth Version 4.90.0.2525*
      Microsoft (r) PCHealth Version 4.90.0.3002*
      Microsoft (r) Windows Script Host Version 5.6.0.6626*
      Microsoft Clip Organizer Version 10.0.3131* Microsoft Corporation -
      DirectShow Version 6.4.07.1112*
      Microsoft Corporation - Internet Explorer Version 6.00.2600.0000*
      Microsoft Corporation - MSN Gaming Zone Version 1.00.523.4*
      Microsoft Corporation - Spider Version 2, 0, 0, 1*
      Microsoft Corporation - Windows Movie Maker Version 1.0.1376.0*
      Microsoft Office XP Version 10.0.2609*
      Microsoft Office XP Version 10.0.3402*
      Microsoft Office XP Version 10.0.3416*
      Microsoft Office XP Version 10.0.3506*
      Microsoft Outlook Version 10.0.2616*
      Microsoft Outlook Version 10.0.3416*
      Microsoft Photo Editor Version 10.0*
      Microsoft Pointing Device Software Version 3.20.0484*
      Microsoft(R) Windows Media Player Version 7.10.00.3068*
      MicrosoftR Plus! for WindowsR 95 Version 4.40.500*
      Motive System Version 3.02.01*
      MUSICMATCH Installer Version 4, 0, 611, 1*
      MusicMatch Jukebox Version 6.00.2118*
      NeoWorx Inc. - NTX Module Version 3, 2, 0, 0*
      NeoWorx Inc. NeoTrace Version 3, 1, 9, 0*
      Netscape Communications nsnotify Version 4.5*
      NETSCAPE Version 4.79*
      Nullsoft - Winamp Version 2.75*
      Opera Internet Browser (win32) Version 6.03*
      QUALCOMM Incorporated - Eudora Version 5.1.1.6*
      QUALCOMM PureVoice Version 1.2.1*
      RealNetworks RealJukebox Version 1.0.2.340*
      RealNetworks, Inc. - RealPlayer (32-bit) Version 6.0.9.584*
      RefUpdate for Ad-aware *
      RegCleaner The same as the FileVersion*
      Storm Technology, Inc. - EasyPhoto Version 2.7.2.7 (Adobe)*
      Symantec Corporation - LiveUpdate Version 1.70.22.0*
      Symantec Corporation - Norton AntiVirus Version 7.07.00.23*
      Symantec Corporation - Norton Core Technology Version 14.20.0.88*
      Symantec Corporation - Norton SystemWorks Version 4.00.84*
      Symantec ScriptBlocking Version 1, 1, 0, 126*
      The SPINNER Player Version 4.0.1.spin.38*
      Visualize Software - VisualZone Report Utility Version 5.5*
      Webroot Software, Inc. - ACCELERATE Registered Version*
      Webroot Software, Inc. - Window Washer Version 4.1*
      WinZip Version 8.0 (3105)*
      Zone Labs Inc. - Internet Access Monitor Version 2.6.362*
      ZoneAlarm Pro Version 2.6.362*

      Hopefully, this will provide some rather valuable data.

      I really appreciate your help.

      Thank you for your time and effort.

      I hope my questions and concerns aren't too dumb. The last thing I
      want to do is to insult anyone with my most likely "idiotic"
      questions, but I don't know where else to turn but to people who know
      Linux well.

      Charles







      --- In LINUX_Newbies@y..., Andres Rosado <arosado@s...> wrote:
      > At 11:47 AM 7/1/2002 +0000, you wrote:
      > >I am new to this group and to Linux as well.
      > >
      > >After reading a recent article in PC Magazine
      > >http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,54090,00.asp
      > >I could use some advice in deciding between the latest
      distributions
      > >of Redhat Linux 7.3 Professional and SuSE Linux Professional.
      > >http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,54083,00.asp
      > >
      > >I would be a newcomer to Linux as an OS. The OS would see duty
      > >primarily in a business context on a stand-alone (for now) Dell
      > >Dimension 8100 PC (1.7 GHz P-4, 512 MB SD-RAM,) currently running
      Win
      > >ME and low latency cable modem.
      >
      > You can't go wrong with either. I have used Red Hat (RH) for
      sometime and
      > it's nice. I heard that SuSE, on the other hand, comes with very
      good
      > manuals. Since you are new to Linux, I would recommend buying a
      boxed
      > version of either one. But, instead of going with the Pro version,
      I would
      > stick with the simplier, less expensive version.
      >
      > For a more complete answer, go to:
      >
      > http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/linfaq.html
      >
      > >My major objective is to have stability and security in the new OS.
      > >However, I am concerned about the possible steep learning curve and
      > >about my ability to properly partition the HDD.
      >
      > You've come to the right place! ;) Have you used DOS in the 5.x or
      6.x
      > days? If so, you'll feel quite comfortable with Linux.
      >
      > If you haven't, I recommend you going to Linux anyway. It's far
      more
      > powerful than DOS will ever be. Try reading the following pages, to
      get you
      > started:
      >
      > http://www.tldp.org/
      >
      > http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/linfaq.html
      >
      > >If you could help point me in the right direction, I'd really
      > >appreciate it.
      >
      > HTH
      >
      >
      > -----------------------------------
      > Andres Rosado
      > Email: andresr@d...
      > ICQ: 66750646
      > Homepage: http://andres980.tripod.com/
      >
      > If God wanted us to be brave, why did he give us legs?
      > -- Marvin Kitman


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    • bravo_charlie_delta
      Thank you, Moshin. This is really helpful. Charles ... have ... about ... 8100 ... Compatible) ... # ... 1* ... know ... OS. ... and ... to
      Message 2 of 11 , Jul 3, 2002
        Thank you, Moshin.

        This is really helpful.

        Charles


        --- In LINUX_Newbies@y..., "Mohsin Khan" <khan_mohsin@k...> wrote:
        > If you do not wish to partition your disk, then try winlinux. I
        have
        > used it and it is great for newbies.
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: bravo_charlie_delta [mailto:bravo_charlie_delta@y...]
        > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 6:09 PM
        > To: LINUX_Newbies@y...
        > Subject: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: Hi/Advice on Choosing Which Linux
        > Distribution to Select?
        >
        > Hi, Andres:
        >
        > Thank you for your advice and the links. They are very helpful.
        >
        > Yes, I have a wee bit of DOS 6.x knowledge, but I am most assuredly
        > no expert. I guess one might say that I am "decent" with Win 3X-9X
        > OSs, and pretty OK with Win NT4.0 & 2K (which we have at our
        > corporate HQ.)
        >
        > My primary concern is that I have never partitioned a HDD and have
        > heard some rather gruesome tales, via BBs and Lists, about using the
        > latest version of Partition Magic and other similar utilities. I am
        > also confused about whether to use LILO or Lindows and if Redhat or
        > SuSE are self-install/automatically partitioning, and how to go
        about
        > partitioning the HDD in the proper manner. I can't right now afford
        > a separate HDD which, I guess, would make thinks quite a bit easier.
        >
        > Anyway, here are my full System specs w/ obvious deletions for
        > security purposes.
        >
        > Operating System System Model
        > Windows Millennium Edition Dell Computer Corporation Dimension
        8100
        > System Service Tag: deleted
        > Chassis Serial Number: deleted
        > Processor a Main Circuit Board
        > 1700 megahertz Intel Pentium 4
        > 8 kilobyte primary memory cache
        > 256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: Dell Computer
        > Corporation Dimension 8100
        > Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
        > BIOS: Dell Computer Corporation A06 04/20/2001
        > Drives Memory Modules
        > 59.98 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
        > 55.10 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
        >
        > _NEC NR-7800A [CD-ROM drive]
        > SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616 [CD-ROM drive]
        > Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")
        >
        > Maxtor 5T060H6 (60.00 GB) [Hard drive] -- drive 0 512 Megabytes
        > Installed Memory
        > 256 Megabyte Module Size - 2 Installed
        > 2 Memory Sockets are Empty
        > Local Drive Volumes
        >
        > c: (on drive 0) 59.98 GB 55.10 GB free
        >
        > Network Drives
        >
        >
        > Controllers Printers
        > Standard Floppy Disk Controller
        > Intel(r) 82801BA Ultra ATA Storage Controller
        > Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
        > Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) Acrobat PDFWriter on LPT1:
        >
        > Display
        > 64MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce3 (Dell) [Display adapter]
        > Plug and Play Monitor
        > Bus Adapters Multimedia
        > Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller 1
        > Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller 2 Creative SB
        > Live! Value (WDM)
        > Game Port for Creative SB Live!
        > Wave Device for Voice Modem
        > Communications Other Devices
        > Conexant HCF V90 56K RTAD Speakerphone PCI Modem
        > 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX
        Compatible)
        > Network Card MAC Address: deleted Conexant PCI Modem Enumerator
        > Hewlett Packard ScanJet 5300C
        > Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
        > HID-compliant mouse
        > Other Logitech USB Mouse
        > Standard PS/2 Port Mouse
        > HP Parallel Adapter
        > USB Root Hub
        > USB Root Hub
        > Software Licenses
        >
        > Adobe Systems, Inc. - Adobe PhotoDeluxe Business Edition 1.1 serial
        #
        > deleted
        > Microsoft - Internet Explorer 6.0 (other IDs deleted)
        > Microsoft - MediaPlayer (latest version, ID deleted)
        > Microsoft - IntelliPoint 11111-111-1111111-11111
        > Microsoft - Office XP 2002 (reg. deleted)
        > Microsoft - Windows Millennium Edition (Ids deleted)
        > Microsoft - Office XP Small Business (Ids/regs deleted)
        >
        > Software Versions
        > Adaptec - CD Jewel Version 1.04 (400)*
        > Adaptec - DirectCD Version 3.04 (205)*
        > Adaptec - DirectCD Version 3.04 (206)*
        > Adaptec - Easy CD Creator Version 4.04 (400)*
        > Adaptec - Easy CD Creator Version 4.04 (401S1)*
        > Adaptec - Web-CheckUp Version 1.01e (305)*
        > Adobe Acrobat Reader Version 5.0.5.0*
        > Adobe Acrobat Version 4.0.000*
        > Adobe PhotoDeluxe Business Edition Version 1.1*
        > Adobe Type Manager Version 4.00L*
        > America Online, Inc. - AOL Instant Messenger (SM) Version 4.3.2229*
        > Belarc Advisor and BelLive - Belarc's Content Personalization with
        > Privacy Version 5.0m*
        > BroadJump - Road Runner Medic Version 1,1,1,0*
        > Cinematronics - 3D Pinball Version 4.90.3000.1*
        > Creative Diagnostics Version 1.43.04*
        > Creative Launcher Version 1.0*
        > Creative PlayCenter Version 1.51*
        > Creative Recorder Version 1.02*
        > Creative Restore Defaults Version 1.07*
        > Creative SB Live! Experience Version 1.3.2*
        > Creative Technology Ltd. - AudioHQ Version 1.0.193*
        > Creative WaveStudio Version 4.08*
        > Dell Computer Corporation - LaunchRx Application Version 1, 3, 0, 0*
        > Fishbone Designs - NAB Conduit Install Application Version 1, 0, 0,
        1*
        > Full Circle Talkback Version 2.2*
        > Hemera Technologies Inc. www.hemera.com - Photo-Objects Gallery for
        > HP Version 2.55*
        > Hewlett-Packard - HP PrecisionScan scanning software Version 3.03*
        > Hewlett-Packard - HP ScanJet Copier Utility Version 3.1*
        > I.R.I.S. SA - readiris Version 5, 0, 0, 1*
        > InstallShield Software Corporation - PackageForTheWeb Stub Version
        > 2.02.001*
        > InterVideo WinDVD Version 3.0.30.2*
        > iolo technologies, LLC - System Mechanic Version 3.7.5.0*
        > javaw.exe*
        > Launch Swat It *
        > LavaSoft - Ad-aware, multi spyware removal utility Version 5.8*
        > LavaSoft - REGHANCE 2.0 Version 1.5*
        > Lavasoft Refupdate Version 2.01*
        > LavaSoft Sweden - Ad-aware plus Version 2.0*
        > Macromedia Director Version 7.0*
        > Microsoft (r) PCHealth Version 4.90.0.2525*
        > Microsoft (r) PCHealth Version 4.90.0.3002*
        > Microsoft (r) Windows Script Host Version 5.6.0.6626*
        > Microsoft Clip Organizer Version 10.0.3131* Microsoft Corporation -
        > DirectShow Version 6.4.07.1112*
        > Microsoft Corporation - Internet Explorer Version 6.00.2600.0000*
        > Microsoft Corporation - MSN Gaming Zone Version 1.00.523.4*
        > Microsoft Corporation - Spider Version 2, 0, 0, 1*
        > Microsoft Corporation - Windows Movie Maker Version 1.0.1376.0*
        > Microsoft Office XP Version 10.0.2609*
        > Microsoft Office XP Version 10.0.3402*
        > Microsoft Office XP Version 10.0.3416*
        > Microsoft Office XP Version 10.0.3506*
        > Microsoft Outlook Version 10.0.2616*
        > Microsoft Outlook Version 10.0.3416*
        > Microsoft Photo Editor Version 10.0*
        > Microsoft Pointing Device Software Version 3.20.0484*
        > Microsoft(R) Windows Media Player Version 7.10.00.3068*
        > MicrosoftR Plus! for WindowsR 95 Version 4.40.500*
        > Motive System Version 3.02.01*
        > MUSICMATCH Installer Version 4, 0, 611, 1*
        > MusicMatch Jukebox Version 6.00.2118*
        > NeoWorx Inc. - NTX Module Version 3, 2, 0, 0*
        > NeoWorx Inc. NeoTrace Version 3, 1, 9, 0*
        > Netscape Communications nsnotify Version 4.5*
        > NETSCAPE Version 4.79*
        > Nullsoft - Winamp Version 2.75*
        > Opera Internet Browser (win32) Version 6.03*
        > QUALCOMM Incorporated - Eudora Version 5.1.1.6*
        > QUALCOMM PureVoice Version 1.2.1*
        > RealNetworks RealJukebox Version 1.0.2.340*
        > RealNetworks, Inc. - RealPlayer (32-bit) Version 6.0.9.584*
        > RefUpdate for Ad-aware *
        > RegCleaner The same as the FileVersion*
        > Storm Technology, Inc. - EasyPhoto Version 2.7.2.7 (Adobe)*
        > Symantec Corporation - LiveUpdate Version 1.70.22.0*
        > Symantec Corporation - Norton AntiVirus Version 7.07.00.23*
        > Symantec Corporation - Norton Core Technology Version 14.20.0.88*
        > Symantec Corporation - Norton SystemWorks Version 4.00.84*
        > Symantec ScriptBlocking Version 1, 1, 0, 126*
        > The SPINNER Player Version 4.0.1.spin.38*
        > Visualize Software - VisualZone Report Utility Version 5.5*
        > Webroot Software, Inc. - ACCELERATE Registered Version*
        > Webroot Software, Inc. - Window Washer Version 4.1*
        > WinZip Version 8.0 (3105)*
        > Zone Labs Inc. - Internet Access Monitor Version 2.6.362*
        > ZoneAlarm Pro Version 2.6.362*
        >
        > Hopefully, this will provide some rather valuable data.
        >
        > I really appreciate your help.
        >
        > Thank you for your time and effort.
        >
        > I hope my questions and concerns aren't too dumb. The last thing I
        > want to do is to insult anyone with my most likely "idiotic"
        > questions, but I don't know where else to turn but to people who
        know
        > Linux well.
        >
        > Charles
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > --- In LINUX_Newbies@y..., Andres Rosado <arosado@s...> wrote:
        > > At 11:47 AM 7/1/2002 +0000, you wrote:
        > > >I am new to this group and to Linux as well.
        > > >
        > > >After reading a recent article in PC Magazine
        > > >http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,54090,00.asp
        > > >I could use some advice in deciding between the latest
        > distributions
        > > >of Redhat Linux 7.3 Professional and SuSE Linux Professional.
        > > >http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,54083,00.asp
        > > >
        > > >I would be a newcomer to Linux as an OS. The OS would see duty
        > > >primarily in a business context on a stand-alone (for now) Dell
        > > >Dimension 8100 PC (1.7 GHz P-4, 512 MB SD-RAM,) currently running
        > Win
        > > >ME and low latency cable modem.
        > >
        > > You can't go wrong with either. I have used Red Hat (RH) for
        > sometime and
        > > it's nice. I heard that SuSE, on the other hand, comes with very
        > good
        > > manuals. Since you are new to Linux, I would recommend buying a
        > boxed
        > > version of either one. But, instead of going with the Pro version,
        > I would
        > > stick with the simplier, less expensive version.
        > >
        > > For a more complete answer, go to:
        > >
        > > http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/linfaq.html
        > >
        > > >My major objective is to have stability and security in the new
        OS.
        > > >However, I am concerned about the possible steep learning curve
        and
        > > >about my ability to properly partition the HDD.
        > >
        > > You've come to the right place! ;) Have you used DOS in the 5.x or
        > 6.x
        > > days? If so, you'll feel quite comfortable with Linux.
        > >
        > > If you haven't, I recommend you going to Linux anyway. It's far
        > more
        > > powerful than DOS will ever be. Try reading the following pages,
        to
        > get you
        > > started:
        > >
        > > http://www.tldp.org/
        > >
        > > http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/linfaq.html
        > >
        > > >If you could help point me in the right direction, I'd really
        > > >appreciate it.
        > >
        > > HTH
        > >
        > >
        > > -----------------------------------
        > > Andres Rosado
        > > Email: andresr@d...
        > > ICQ: 66750646
        > > Homepage: http://andres980.tripod.com/
        > >
        > > If God wanted us to be brave, why did he give us legs?
        > > -- Marvin Kitman
        >
        >
        > To unsubscribe from this list, please email
        > LINUX_Newbies-unsubscribe@y... & you will be removed.
        >
        > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
        > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
      • bravo_charlie_delta
        Thank you, John: I appreciate your advice. I m still trying to absorb all the information so that I can hopefully make a semi-intelligent decision, but I find
        Message 3 of 11 , Jul 3, 2002
          Thank you, John:

          I appreciate your advice.

          I'm still trying to absorb all the information so that I can
          hopefully make a semi-intelligent decision, but I find myself quite a
          bit "in over my head." I have a feeling that my own lack of
          understanding has a bit to do with not properly understanding the
          nomenclature of Linux distributions & how-tos, and is also due to the
          fact that I have never before partitioned a HDD. I have more than a
          little bit of anxiety about the latter point since I am not, to date,
          qualified to partition a room, much less a HDD (lol.) This is my
          failing.

          I feel that I am at the "See Spot Run" stage of all this. Hopefully,
          someday, I can progress, vis a vis Linux and the help of you all, to
          at least 1 grade beyond kindergarten. That would be my fervent hope.
          Right now, I'm still in the "Cookies & Milk, Take a Nap now, This is
          the Alphabet" stage of total non-expertise.

          Thank you for your help and guidance.

          I really do appreciate your help!

          Charles






          --- In LINUX_Newbies@y..., John Inkpen <inkpen@c...> wrote:
          > bravo_charlie_delta wrote:
          > > Hi:
          > >
          > > I am new to this group and to Linux as well.
          > >
          > > After reading a recent article in PC Magazine
          > > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,54090,00.asp
          > > I could use some advice in deciding between the latest
          distributions
          > > of Redhat Linux 7.3 Professional and SuSE Linux Professional.
          > > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,54083,00.asp
          > >
          > > I would be a newcomer to Linux as an OS. The OS would see duty
          > > primarily in a business context on a stand-alone (for now) Dell
          > > Dimension 8100 PC (1.7 GHz P-4, 512 MB SD-RAM,) currently running
          Win
          > > ME and low latency cable modem.
          > >
          > > My major objective is to have stability and security in the new
          OS.
          > > However, I am concerned about the possible steep learning curve
          and
          > > about my ability to properly partition the HDD.
          > >
          > > If you could help point me in the right direction, I'd really
          > > appreciate it.
          > >
          > > Thanks in advance.
          > >
          > > Charles
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > To unsubscribe from this list, please email
          > > LINUX_Newbies-unsubscribe@y... & you will be removed.
          > >
          > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
          Service
          > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
          >
          > Good day,
          >
          > I would go with RH7.3; why, just because. I use RH for a few years
          now
          > and I also had SuSE and other distros. I stuck with RH because
          someone
          > was on the other end of the phone when I called, I wasn't looking
          for
          > help; had a problem with support credit (which got fixed BDQ).RH
          updates
          > and help center are first class. You can D/L 7.3 disc to 3 (manin
          core)
          > the others disks are docs and source, then for $60.00us you can get
          all
          > the updates and there are heaps of email groups. Have a look at
          Redhat.com
          >
          > Your PC will do the job nicely, heaps of muscle there. RH has a
          built in
          > firewall that for the most part is click and go. You may have to
          tweak
          > the FW a tad depending on your business. For the most part you just
          do
          > the install, setup the wall and your net account, that's about to
          have a
          > secure system. Once up and running you can test your secuirty at
          > grc.com, dslreports.com etc.
          >
          > I'm working off an P4 also, but have a p200 32mb (RH) and no hard
          drive,
          > (my main system is a dual booter intel p4 2.5 GHz <grin>) its boots
          of a
          > floppy and is my router/gateway/firewall.
          > http://librenix.com/?inode=719) for howto's(by the way they tell me
          that
          > you can't run rh7* with less then 64mb of mem.). (have to fix that
          one
          > of these days) <wink> Other then power outage that PC hasn't been
          > rebooting for over a year now.
          >
          > RH is a good choice, affordable, dependable etc, I don't work for
          them :)
        • Jerry A. Stevens
          ... Try reading this: http://linux.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/linux/2001/10/11/filesystem.html Jerry
          Message 4 of 11 , Jul 3, 2002
            On Wednesday 03 July 2002 01:11 pm, you wrote:
            > is also due to the
            > fact that I have never before partitioned a HDD. I have more than a
            > little bit of anxiety about the latter point since I am not, to date,
            > qualified to partition a room, much less a HDD (lol.) This is my
            > failing.

            Try reading this:

            http://linux.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/linux/2001/10/11/filesystem.html

            Jerry
          • Andres Rosado
            ... Partitioning can be a nightmare. Remember to back up everything you have in the disk before thinking about partitioning. I use Partition Magic and it works
            Message 5 of 11 , Jul 4, 2002
              At 05:09 PM 7/3/2002 +0000, you wrote:
              >Thank you for your advice and the links. They are very helpful.
              >
              >Yes, I have a wee bit of DOS 6.x knowledge, but I am most assuredly
              >no expert. I guess one might say that I am "decent" with Win 3X-9X
              >OSs, and pretty OK with Win NT4.0 & 2K (which we have at our
              >corporate HQ.)
              >
              >My primary concern is that I have never partitioned a HDD and have
              >heard some rather gruesome tales, via BBs and Lists, about using the
              >latest version of Partition Magic and other similar utilities. I am
              >also confused about whether to use LILO or Lindows and if Redhat or
              >SuSE are self-install/automatically partitioning, and how to go about
              >partitioning the HDD in the proper manner. I can't right now afford
              >a separate HDD which, I guess, would make thinks quite a bit easier.

              Partitioning can be a nightmare. Remember to back up everything you have in
              the disk before thinking about partitioning.

              I use Partition Magic and it works quite good. Your milage may vary.

              >Anyway, here are my full System specs w/ obvious deletions for
              >security purposes.
              >
              >[snip]
              >59.98 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
              >55.10 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

              You can partition 10 or 20 GB for Linux, and the rest for Windows.

              >_NEC NR-7800A [CD-ROM drive]

              This should'nt have problems.

              >SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616 [CD-ROM drive]

              And this neither.

              >[snip]
              >Conexant HCF V90 56K RTAD Speakerphone PCI Modem

              This can be a problem, if you use dial-up. I _think_ it's a WinModem.

              >[snip]
              >Software Licenses
              >
              >[snip]
              >Adaptec - CD Jewel Version 1.04 (400)*
              >Adaptec - DirectCD Version 3.04 (205)*
              >Adaptec - DirectCD Version 3.04 (206)*
              >Adaptec - Easy CD Creator Version 4.04 (400)*
              >Adaptec - Easy CD Creator Version 4.04 (401S1)*

              X-CDroast can be a substitute for some of these.

              >Adaptec - Web-CheckUp Version 1.01e (305)*
              >Adobe Acrobat Reader Version 5.0.5.0*

              I think there is a Acrobat Reader version for Linux.

              >[snip]
              >America Online, Inc. - AOL Instant Messenger (SM) Version 4.3.2229*

              gAIM can connect to AOL, MSN and Yahoo.

              >[snip]
              >NETSCAPE Version 4.79*

              In Linux, Netscape is also available, as well as it's cousin Mozilla.

              >Nullsoft - Winamp Version 2.75*

              XMMS is very like Winamp. (No flame war, please.)

              >Opera Internet Browser (win32) Version 6.03*

              Opera is also available on Linux.

              >QUALCOMM Incorporated - Eudora Version 5.1.1.6*

              There are some capable good emailers in Linux, like Sylpheed, Mutt and Pine.

              >[snip]
              >WinZip Version 8.0 (3105)*

              Most Linux distros have command line utilities for compression/decompression.

              >Zone Labs Inc. - Internet Access Monitor Version 2.6.362*
              >ZoneAlarm Pro Version 2.6.362*

              Linux has a internal firewall. Someone mentioned here (or in the Linux
              group) about a proyect to make a firewall similar to Zonealarm in Linux.

              >Hopefully, this will provide some rather valuable data.
              >
              >I really appreciate your help.
              >
              >Thank you for your time and effort.
              >
              >I hope my questions and concerns aren't too dumb. The last thing I
              >want to do is to insult anyone with my most likely "idiotic"
              >questions, but I don't know where else to turn but to people who know
              >Linux well.

              ``The only dumb question is the one never asked.'' :)


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              Andres Rosado
              Email: andresr@...
              ICQ: 66750646
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            • Andres Rosado
              ... Also RedHat and Slackware both come with a UM-DOS version of them. ... Andres Rosado Email: andresr@despammed.com ICQ: 66750646 Homepage:
              Message 6 of 11 , Jul 4, 2002
                At 06:34 PM 7/3/2002 +0100, you wrote:
                >If you do not wish to partition your disk, then try winlinux. I have
                >used it and it is great for newbies.

                Also RedHat and Slackware both come with a UM-DOS version of them.


                -----------------------------------
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              • bravo_charlie_delta
                Thank you, Jerry. I appreciate it. -bcd- ... than a ... date,
                Message 7 of 11 , Jul 8, 2002
                  Thank you, Jerry.
                  I appreciate it.

                  -bcd-

                  --- In LINUX_Newbies@y..., "Jerry A. Stevens" <jstevens@i...> wrote:
                  > On Wednesday 03 July 2002 01:11 pm, you wrote:
                  > > is also due to the
                  > > fact that I have never before partitioned a HDD. I have more
                  than a
                  > > little bit of anxiety about the latter point since I am not, to
                  date,
                  > > qualified to partition a room, much less a HDD (lol.) This is my
                  > > failing.
                  >
                  > Try reading this:
                  >
                  > http://linux.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/linux/2001/10/11/filesystem.html
                  >
                  > Jerry
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