- Antoni! Of course, I knew something about Frenkel. He is really father of entire Gulag system of forced labor and an effective destruction of large numbersMessage 1 of 31 , Jun 3, 2012View Source
Of course, I knew something about Frenkel. He is really "father" of entire Gulag system of forced labor and an effective destruction of large numbers of people through the monstrous work on a full tear.
Before him, the Gulag was a simple machine to destroy people, to which the state USSR spent money. He made Gulag, sorry for that term, "cost-effective" (minimum food, maximum works) .
Coming from a poor Jewish family, he was a smuggler and robber in Odessa, was at Solovki camp and had to be shoot OGPU. But "liking" secret police, became an informer, and more - an incredible career!
He died in honor and decorations in his Moscow apartment in rank of lieutenant-general of the NKVD! Above it was only Beria, Abakumov and 2-3 others.
In II war and after NKVD captain-major was equal to army colonel - that is a jump in two or three titles. That is Lt. Gen. Frenkel died as a General of Army - and indeed, the GULAG was his army.
Are you find interesting that "remarkably sensitive comrade" Shemena - chief SevZhelDorLaga - in 1944 straight from captain NKVD was appointed major-general?
Frankel and his henchmen have not touched penalty 37-38 years, nor cleaning, not Khrushchev thaw and disassembly.
That is, "merits "of Frenkel have been tacitly accepted by USSR authorities, though, as you know, many security officers, on whose conscience is much less lives, were shoted in 1938 and 1953.
But Frenkel is not accepted to talk a lot and talk, perhaps because of his nationality or the incredible and incomprehensible career in NKVD.
Stan - Please forgive me for mistakes, I can not clean up all.
From: antoni530 <askazimierski@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 2:24 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia (est.2001)] Re: SevZelDorLag
Now that you pointed it out; it seems that Naftali Aronovich Frenkel was 'father of norms' in all Gulag system. His ideas were the 'driver' kind of schemes applied everywhere.
I did not know this ither nor have I heard of this man from Odessa.
Look at the misery it all created in both posiolkach and camps in Murmansk, Kolyma and Pechora regions! as well as the huge undertakings like railway systems in the Far Eastern Russia.
--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Stanislaw Zwierzynski <zwierzinski1957@...> wrote:
> Anthony, hello, in general, you're right to say.
> What I would like to note:
> 1) How performance curve (on fig) has gone up, when in May 1940 arriwed Polish prisoners from Krivoy Rog, Nikopol, Dnipropetrovsk etc. (including Â Elzuna father and others). Forces were many, and Poles worked better.
> 2) The article give clarification of departments (ottedenija) work. If you know department, where man worked, you can specify route to further clarify position. According to place you can refine your search. Now in Russia in schools are studies Gulag. And Russian children know hundred times more than we, reading Solzhenitsyn's under the covers.
> 3) For me, sunk into the soul monstrous phrase Frenkel (I did not know before) that "prisoner must make most of all within three months, and then he is no longer needed ..."
> By the way, for fans of Lombroso theory there are two portraits - Shemena and Klochkov, the first was "extremely sensitive fellow." Someone mentioned Evstigneev, Deputy Chief SevZhelDorLag, was father of deceased Soviet amazing actor Evstigneev, who played a lot of wonderful roles, including professor Preobrazenski il film "Heart of a Dog" by Bulgakov.
> If really need, I will trasnsfer with Googl text but not today. By the way tomorrow I'll post documents about Poles in Kotlas. There are lots of interesting, but inherently terrible details. Children from Kotlas school went to people who remember Poles 1940-41, wrote essay.
> All the best, Stan.
> From: antoni530 <askazimierski@...>
> To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 1:21 PM
> Subject: [Kresy-Siberia (est.2001)] Re: SevZelDorLag
> this article is a general description of the purpose and execution of the Peczora railway from Konosha-Velsk-Kotlas-Kniazpohorost-Chubwa- Workuta line and as the map showes other lines emanating from there on tp various regions of the USSR and in present day Russia. exploring various minerals/deposits which currently enhance Russian national wealth.
> There are sections describing life in the camps along its length and hardship experienced by the deported. Not a great deal is said in particular about Poles as such, but the deportees were from all sorts of regions. It also gives description of various medals given/granted to all those in charge of the project and elevates them to 'hero' status by the then authorities.
> Lots of statistics as well. The period covered is from its concept in October 1937 to the death of Stalin.
> I have not noticed any Polish names as such in the text, nor any particular camps mentioned as being filled by Poles of 1939 to 1945 period. If there is a specific question please ask.
> antoni530 in UK.
> --- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, Patrick <msi.translation@> wrote:
> > Hi group,
> > Has anyone translated this article, which I find is in Russian? I'm
> > interested because my Dad was in SevZelDorLag.
> > Patrick Micel
- Hi John, Thank you so much for posting the translation. I have just finished reading it and printing it off. As you know, my father was there too. Best wishes,Message 31 of 31 , Jan 20, 2013View SourceHi John,Thank you so much for posting the translation. I have just finished reading it and printing it off. As you know, my father was there too.Best wishes,Basia (UK)On 20 Jan 2013, at 00:51, John Halucha wrote:Thank you very much for sharing this dissertation about construction of the Kotlas-Pechora railway in Komi, Stan.
My father was enslaved in that region and helped to build that railway.
For those who have not yet read the document but are interested in this location, I am attaching a raw Google translation to save you some time. I don't speak Russian, less say read Russian, so cannot speak to the accuracy of the translation. However, it seems to read quite well and no doubt we can extract at least the broad meaning. Someone with a working knowledge of Russian may find it useful as a preliminary stage and undertake to do a better translation.
This is a scholarly work short on conditions in the camps and long on underlying political decisions. The main lesson I took from it is that slave labour for development of Komi, particularly the railway through the region, was the motivation for incarcerating people like my father - the "corrective" element of imprisonment was a cynical front. The author does not shy away from emphasizing the cruelty and violence inherent in the repressions.
Again, thank you Stan for this interesting window into the minds of the perpetrators.
John HaluchaSault Ste Marie, CanadaPS Mark T. - A pox on the all their houses, or arenas. After shovelling the latest dump of snow here, I found this document a better way to spend my afternoon.
From: Stanislaw Zwierzynski <zwierzinski1957@...>
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SevZelDorLag - forever.File name (Azarov) has been written in Russian, so it can not be opened. Is replaced by scripts.
Stephen, maybe you say - how in Russian (English) language, sounded letter combination SZCZ (Maszcz...)