- http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/101425,No-penalty-for-hammer-and-sickle-says-sport-minister No penalty for hammer and sickle, says sport ministerMessage 1 of 2 , Jun 2, 2012View Source
No penalty for hammer and sickle, says sport minister
- Hi John: I think that the News.pl has muddled Mucha s and Polish government s position. She and MSZ(Ministry of Foreign Affairs) apparently did not supportMessage 2 of 2 , Jun 3, 2012View SourceHi John:
I think that the News.pl has muddled Mucha's and Polish government's position. She and MSZ(Ministry of Foreign Affairs) apparently did not support Poland's Ambassador in Moscow, and instead equivocated and contradicted him. The official position of Polish government was stated by MSZ: "in agreement with the Polish law communist symbols are not the target of punitive sanctions". The current PO government is in the hands of former communists and when Moscow roars they meekly submit. They are begging forgiveness for their sins are promising the Russians that there will be no prosecution if they violate Poland's laws.
MSZ is wrong about Article 256 which states: "Those who promote fascist or other totalitarian forms of government or who call to hatred based on national, ethnic, racial, religious or atheism, is liable to fines, restrictions on his freedom or loss of freedom for two years." (my translation) (Rzeczpospolita, Piotr Zychowicz):
Best to my knowledge this is the text of the article in question 256. Zychowicz did check with an attorney for interpretation. The point Zychowicz was making in his article was that Bolshevism/Russian Communism were indeed totalitarian form of government by any definition of the word, and one would expect any Polish government official to know that in view of the persistent murderous Soviet aggression against Poland.
As for the statement: "The law stipulates that sporting such symbols is acceptable within the framework of artistic, educational or academic pursuits, likewise for collectors of military or political regalia" it borders on the ridiculous and is meant to confuse the issue. I doubt if Mucha or anyone else in Polish government would say that if it were Germans carrying Nazi flags and Swastika armbands tried to enter the stadium. The same law applies to Bolshevik provocateurs. They are not artists.
With best regards,
--- In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, John Halucha <john.halucha@...> wrote:
> No penalty for hammer and sickle, says sport minister
> 01.06.2012 15:15
> Poland's Minister of Sport has insisted that Russian football fans will not be penalised for wearing communist symbols during Euro 2012, following a commotion in the Russian media.
> Minister Anna Mucha on Friday: photo PAP/ Pawel Supernak
> Speaking at a press conference on Friday, Minister Joanna Mucha clarified that while the promotion of fascist or totalitarian beliefs is prohibited, the wearing of such symbols âis not forbidden under Polish law.â
> On Tuesday, Jaroslaw Ksiazek, an official at the Polish Embassy in Moscow had said that âthe image of the hammer and sickle is treated in the same way that fascist symbols are, and is legally prohibited,â as cited by theÂ Sport ExpressÂ daily.
> The remarks prompted Russia's Minister of Sport, Vitali Mutko, to declare that Poland was only provoking his country's football fans.
> âWe know how bans work, and that the forbidden fruit is always sweet,â he told Russia's Life News.
> âPoland has unnecessarily heated up this situation, and is provoking our fans to take action in protest,â he said.
> Nevertheless, Joanna Mucha attempted to calm the situation on Friday by clarifying the legal context.
> Although the promotion of totalitarian beliefs is forbidden, in 2011, Poland's Constitutional Tribunal - the supreme legal body in resolving constitutional disputes â" removed a section of the law that penalised the bearing of symbols.
> According to the law, provided that the symbols are not âglorified,â the bearing of such symbols is legal. The law stipulates that sporting such symbols is acceptable within the framework of artistic, educational or academic pursuits, likewise for collectors of military or political regalia.Â (nh)