Some good points you've made Danuta.
These �wna, anka, owa, ina,..�
I should like to point out that in Poland� our surname, " Styrna" is simply the same for males or females, married or single. Legally , on legal documents , our females in our family always used " Styrna".� I don't believe there is any legal requirement for some other form .�� But in conversation, one could use an endearing form such as " Styrnowa " or " Pani Styrnowa ".
same with surnames like Ko�odziej, or Ptak, Duda,� etc. etc.�
I would be proud to have surname that ends with " ski ' since it may most likely have been of Nobility.� So I would guess that a women would also value her surname suffix " ka " .
----- Original Message -----
From: Danuta Janina W�jcik <sandlily@...>
Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011 6:22 am
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] owna/owa suffixes - outdated
> The owna or owa are becoming outdated.
> Nominal surnames may or may not change with gender. Like other
> Slavic languages, Polish has special feminine suffixes which
> were added to a woman's surname. A woman who was never married
> used her father's surname with the suffix -�wna or -'anka. A
> married woman or a widow used her husband's surname with the
> suffix -owa or -'ina / -'yna (the apostrophe means that the last
> consonant in the base form of the surname is softened). Although
> these suffixes are still used by some people, mostly the elderly
> and in rural areas, they are now becoming outdated and there is
> a tendency to use the same form of a nominal surname for both a
> man and a woman.
> � ----- Original Message -----
> � From: Dan Ford
> � To: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com
> � Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 7:31 AM
> � Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] ski / ska
> � A while ago it was noted here that the ski/ska endings
> are archaic and
> � that modern Poles don't use the feminine ending.
> Yesterday in the Wall
> � Street Journal I saw an interview with MIA WASIKOWSKA,
> the 21-year-old
> � heroine of the most recent remake of Jane Eyre. She is,
> to be sure,
> � Australian, but her mother, Marzena Wasikowska, was born
> in Poland. She
> � has a brother, but I don't know his surname--perhaps
> Reid, after his
> � father.
> � http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mia_Wasikowska
> � Blue skies! -- Dan Ford
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