What I posted about my father's impressions of Auschwitz-Birkenau wasn't contradicted by your sources. He was saying that the worst Polish kapos HE came across were from Silesia, as opposed to other regions of Poland. He was very frightened of them, but I won't go into the details of what he witnessed. (Lithuanians and Ukrainians aren't ethnic Poles.) Just because there were some nasty Silesians doesn't mean all Silesians are horrible people. There is no need for your Opole friends to be upset!
Incidentally, in gregolma's post, this definition of "Kapo" was provided: "Kapos received more privileges than normal prisoners, towards whom they were often brutal. They were often convicts who were offered this work in exchange for a reduced sentence or parole". This tallies with my father's description of those terrible people.
Greetings from New Zealand (we have some vile characters over here as well),
PS I don't know whether Stepan Bandera's brothers (killed by Polish kapos in A-B) were involved in the slaughter of Poles (and Ukrainians opposed to the OUN/UPA), but they were murdered nevertheless. Two wrongs don't make a right. This observation isn't directed at you, Bozena, but at anyone who thinks the Bandera brothers deserved the manner of their death. Considering his crimes against Poland, SB was treated very leniently by the Polish State!
PPS I have Silesian friends who wouldn't be at all offended by my post.
From: tinijoroga <tinijoroga@...>
Sent: Sat, 27 March, 2010 12:53:12 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Alert for the Polish Media Issues (PMI) - Polish guards serving
No question but that each nation has its saints and sinners â€" I doubt anyone would dispute that! In fact, the first link posted by Janusz_ks pointed out the â€œsaintsâ€� among the Polish Kapos:
http://www.jewishma g.co.il/117mag/ iremember/ iremember. htm
While his second link showed the â€œsinnersâ€�, Poles among them, whose actions in these camps besmirched the â€œImmaculate Name of the Polish Nationâ€� (title conferred by him on Poland, not by me!).
http://menachemkuch ar.com/Writings/ 106.htm
Manâ€™s inhumanity to man is truly incomprehensible especially when such unspeakable crimes are perpetrated by oneâ€™s own countrymen upon their own such as in the case of Father Popieluszko. However, the degree of brutality is a matter of perception by the victims, and you pointed to the Silesians as being the most brutal. Yet, according to the above link, they did not hold that title.
I hesitate to quote from that source (second link above) since it is not one I researched or originally provided to the Group, but Janusz_ks who contributes often, did so as verification for his quote that Polish and Ukrainian guards were ready to beat and shoot inmates (post #38854). So that link was handy and my loyalty to some friends whose roots are from Silesia (Opole) and who just now saw your post, prompts me to â€" requesting also the source of your information.
Obviously, taking second, third or tenth place in inhumanity, is not indicative of the degree of kindness of the perpetrators but as it was pointed out to me, Silesians got no mention in the above article written, I guess, by Menachem Kuchar. Nonetheless, those of us who connect by lineage to those who are mentioned therein, will shudder as I do when seeing â€œPolishâ€� connected in any way with such horrific crimes. The following is a quote from the link above:
"The Lithuanians started savagely murdering the Jews before the arrival of Hitler's emissaries. From all reports, they compete with the Ukrainians as the most savage and brutal of concentration camp guards, and the Poles, themselves persecuted by the Germans, even managed a pogrom or in two in 1946 aimed at returning "Polish" Jews. Ukrainians actively volunteered for the S.S., and after a "special" course, joined the full ranks, wearing the same black uniform. I am told, by first hand sources, they were more brutal than the "native Germans". But perhaps the worst collaboration of all, the evilest of humanity, were Jews who worked and collaborated with the regime. These were the so-called Capos, the "court Jews". Unfortunately this cooperation did not represent a phenomenon new to Jewish history."
BOZENA â€" Florida, USA
--- In Kresy-Siberia@ yahoogroups. com, Zenon Kuzik <zenon.kuzik@ ...> wrote:
> Dear Ewa (and others following this thread),
> Unfortunately, there were ethnic Polish kapos in the Nazi concentration camps. My father, who was imprisoned in some of them (including Auschwitz-Birkenau) , has recounted many times how scared he was of the Polish kapos, especially in A-B. Of the various nationalities serving as kapos, he says that the Poles were among the most brutal (and the worst were Silesians). Polish kapos killed Stepan Bandera's brothers at A-B. All this proves that every nation has its saints and sinners, Poland being no exception. Then what about the sadistic Poles who were members of the secret police under the Polish Communist regime? The Solidarity-aligned priest, Jerzy Popieluszko, was tortured and done to death in a most appalling fashion by fellow Poles.
> Zenon Kuzik
> New Zealand
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