- Walter, Thank you very much for the incredibly informative posting. You certainly have done your homework. It baffles the mind how such atrocities have beenMessage 1 of 41 , Jul 3, 2007View Source
Thank you very much for the incredibly informative posting. You certainly have done your homework.
It baffles the mind how such atrocities have been allowed to go not just unpunished, but even un-noticed by the world.
From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Walter Orlowski
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:11 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Pomnik Bandery w Lwowie? Monument to Bandera in Lwow?
Hi Bozena, Carol and Group:
Let me briefly address the question of what can or cannot be done.
The obstacles are indeed enormous. Carol's suggestion may well be the
only thing we will be able to do successfully. The IPN during
Kwasniewski' s Presidency (it was part of the office of the
President), failed the victims of OUN-UPA crimes and thus asking
Kaczynskis to reopen this investigation and aggressively pursue this
issue is certainly worth trying.
The biggest obstacle is not that something cannot be done, but that
those who can do so, namely Ukraine and Russia, have no will or
intent to do it. And its not only Ukraine, whose role is central to
the issue, but also USA, Britain and Canada which have placed
impossible obstacles in dealing with those criminals. I will have to
go back and review past articles, but it became apparent that the
crimes committed by OUN-UPA and the Ukrainian SS are treated as
individual acts of brutality, rather than acts of a criminal
political organization which guided their actions. How could mass
murder committed by 750 men on orders of their leaders be viewed as
an individual crime? If we applied the same rules to post war
prosecution of German SS-men very few if any would have been
United States has used a law which allows it to deport individuals
who lied about their Nazi past, but the cases are mired in the US
Courts for years. I don't know if Britain has such a law, but none of
the 8,500 men brought to Britain lied about their past, because no
one asked them about it. In fact they were admitted with British
Government's full knowledge of their sordid past.
The British government has deliberately stonewalled all the a
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- Terry, I agree with you also. The terror for the Polish people of Kresy must have started right on Sept. 17, 1939 , when Russia invaded Poland from the east.Message 41 of 41 , Jul 4, 2007View Source
I agree with you also. The terror for the Polish people of Kresy must have started right on Sept. 17, 1939 , when Russia invaded Poland from the east.
I’m sure the adults knew right off the bat that hell was on it’s way. The wasted no time at all. And within 3 weeks, all hell broke loose as the Russians imposed a new local regime.
We talk about the horrors of the Siberian deportations and the Siberian imprisonment and the escape via Persia, the UPA butchering of those that were not deported, etc.. But I can’t imagine the fear they must have endured from Sept 17, 1939 to when the first deportations took place on Feb 10, 1940.
Those 4-5 months of waiting to see what would happen? What was that like? What happened in those months as the Russians demanded that all ex soldiers report to the NKVD offices, the order and searches for any weapons, guns rifles ,… the discrimination at the hands of the locals, possessions being stolen, confiscated, fearing for the safety of your loved ones, your wife, your children, your old helpless grandparents,, etc..
What did really happen then ?
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