- They showed parts of Fagin s press conference on TVN-24 and I thought it was a class action on behalf of everybody who had pre-war government obligations orMessage 1 of 3 , Jun 23, 2006View SourceThey showed parts of Fagin's press conference on TVN-24 and I thought it was a class action on behalf of everybody who had pre-war government obligations or bonds. I did not catch the word, "holocaust." I hope this is not another example of everybody (including Poles) assuming that any reference to the victims of Nazi Germany must mean the Jews (and maybe the Gypsies, homosexuals, etc.). This should be clarified because it may develope into another series of media reports which omit the Poles as victims of Nazi Germany (as in the Swiss Banks cases).Roman-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Poland faces 1 billion euro lawsuit
I for one support the Jewish claim for compensation. Yes it should be directed to the victors and precipitators of the war and Yalta Partition. It is only right that the fallen victim be expunged for all the worth to satisfy the victor or creditor but I propose a wrinkle - namely Poland will pay all the claims but to the state of Israel and not to individual claimants and that the monies will come from and ebay account of sales made of all things Jewish still present in Poland. This would include all synagogues - in use or not - all commentary monuments and all things Jewish to be sold at a fixed price of #10.00 US per kilogram- and the amount sold or not to be deducted including administration costs from the total amount of the presented claim with a stipulation that at no time ever in the future a Jew can claim ANYTHING from Poles. I do not want this to appear frivolous but as a type of negotiated settlement from a country devastated by war and both German and more so Russian occupation where the decisions taken before " in the words of Puttin" are not obliging the democratic government of the present. Sorrowfully Dziadzius
<julian_plowy@ > wrote:My question regarding this law suit is:
If Poland was attacked by both Germany and Russia and then handed
over to Russian rule by Great Britain and the United States should
not the law suit be aimed at Germany, Russia, Great Britain and the
USA for the loss of property and lives rather then at Poland.
Please advise where I am wrong in my conclusions.
http://www.polskier adio.pl/polonia/ article.asp? tId=38147& j=2
Poland faces 1 billion euro lawsuit over pre-war bonds
...The class action suit has been filed in a New York court by US
lawyer Ed Fagan on behalf of the families of Holocaust victims
in the States. Fagan has gone on record saying that since 1945 all
Polish governments 'knowingly misled bondholders by failing to
honor debts or establish a programme through which such claims
could be paid'....Polish government officials have kept silent on
compensation for bond bearers. Ed Fagan had previously launched
restitution claims against Poland in New York, but the courts ruled
that Poland is a sovereign country and that US courts cannot
prosecute Poland. Maciej Tamka says that the time factor is
important here. ..Poland's Jewish community has reacted calmly to
the news of yet another New York court battle against Poland. Piotr
Pazinski from the Midrasz Jewish monthly believes that the US court
has no jurisdiction over Poland is such matters.
"Most of the people who have tried to reclaim their property or have
gone to court to claim property have no right to do it. Those who
perished in Poland weren't the predecessors of the people who
wanted to claim their property. They want to reclaim the property in
the name of the American Jewry or the American Jewish
Association. They can be right, but there is no direct link with
who perished and those who are still alive in the States."...
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