- Walter, I suggest that we try and obtain documents and/or statements, letters, news reports etc made by world leaders that show the error of Rummel sMessage 1 of 3 , Feb 7, 2006View Source
I suggest that we try and obtain documents and/or statements, letters, news reports etc made by world leaders that show the error of Rummel’s publication and publicly deliver them to him asking him to change the numbers in his articles If at that time he does not change we should consider other efforts to help him understand the error of his way.
We need to be very specific in what we feel are his gross errors. We also should ask him to send us copies of the documents he used when he composed his web site and articles.
All I want is to make sure that we obtain and pass along as close to the truth as we can knowing that the real truth will never be obtained from Russia, Germany, America, Great Britain or others when it comes to the Polish situation.
In addition, until we can correct misinformation we should post all competing articles when we see someone post or suggest reading articles that do not state all sides of an issue. This way we all of us can make our own decision as to what we feel is the truth as we see it from reading all of this information.
From: Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Walter Orlowski
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Poles deported to Russia
It is articles like Rummel's that makes me loose sleep. How does one
correct all the misinformation and distortions? It is nothing more
than a collection of half truths and deliberate distortions. A while
back I ran across some other article by Rummel,written in the same
vein and simply ignored him. I had the impression that he represents
a German expatriate group. He obviously is not familiar with any
real statistics on Soviet deportations of Poles from pre-war Eastern
provinces, but also from all of Poland and even from Slask and
Pomorze. Secondly, he seems to be oblivious of how many Germans were
deported to the Soviet Union after Russians overran East Germany and
how many were killed outright. Third, best to my knowledge, there
were 5.5 millions Germans living in the territories that were given
to Poland after the war and not 10,000 million as Rummel claims. That
is not an important point to make except that I seriously doubt that
there were 10 Germans there. Since the references are not listed it
is hard know the source. With exception of Dolny Slask ( Lower
Silesia ) these areas were sparsely populated and still are.
Finally, what infuriates me is the thought that it was the Poles and
the "Polish" government who bear responsibility for maltreatment and
expulsion of the Germans. Essentially, he is blaming Poles for Soviet
Crimes. Anyone with half a brain knows that the NKVD was the
government of Poland probably until 1947 and was in control of its
puppet government until 1956. The killings and repression of Germans
began as soon the Soviet troops occupied the area. The NKVD hasn't
even began building their clone, the UB. That took place latter. Mass
deportations and transfers of population are a Soviet trademark and
not Polish. The Poles had no capability to undertake such a task. To
call the " Lublin " government Polish one would have to redefine the
term. Until the time that the Socialists joined the Communist
Government it could not be called a government. It was a collections
of Russians and scoundrels and opportunists.
Rummel also has no idea of how many people were killed by Hitler and
how many by Stalin. He juggles the numbers around very much like the
Soviet propagandists did. He is just guessing and throws out a number
that sounds plausible. One of the real problems in determining the
exact numbers is that Russians have consistently blamed Hitler for
murders that they committed.
Walter (Wladek) Orlowski
In Kresy-Siberia@yahoogroups.com, "julek2205" <julian_plowy@...>
> some additional information on Poland and the deportation of Poles
> Russia . See below link.