- Thank you both, Jagna and Eve. You ve managed to put into words what I believe many of the group think, but are perhaps inhibited for fear of evoking aMessage 1 of 1 , Jan 31, 2005View SourceThank you both, Jagna and Eve. You've managed to put into words what I believe many of the group think, but are perhaps inhibited for fear of evoking a never-ending tirade. Not all of us are sufficiently 'thick-skinned' (or confident enough in our knowledge so far) to be able to handle or fight the respondent's accusations of bigotry or 'distortion' of our research, so we just keep quiet.We are all learning from each other and the human mind never stops learning as long as we remain 'open' to new knowledge and experiences, rather than the view that 'we know it all' and therefore, any other view is 'distortion' of the 'truth'. What is concrete 'fact' or 'truth'? It exists only as the reader's own perceptions or interpretations of written matter or events, unless of course the person(s) accusing others of distorting the 'truth' have a direct link to an Almighty Being?With kindest regards,Krys
Extremely well said Jagna., thank you.
All my regards
It seems that the main reason for the occasional straying of our main topic is the worry of some of the members that as Poles we see ourselves as whiter than white, more valiant - and, in a word - ‘better’ than other nationalities.
The fact that Poland, like everyone else, did have also its ‘murky’ moments, does not change the fact that for 800 years we were a multinational and multicultural country; that it is a miracle, that after so many attempts at destroying us as a nation we did survive as a nation, and that, by and large, we have been - and have been perceived as such - a brave nation, often ready to fight ‘for the freedom of ours and yours’.
By and large, we have very good reasons to be proud of being Polish. But at the conference in the Rocky Mountains American students of Polish origin told us how often they are met with the incredulous ‘and you are not ashamed to be Polish?’ Fragmented, one-sided, and taken out of historical context opinions about Poland - consistent with today’s tendency to see everything in black and white, and with the preference for stressing the negative rather than the positive - concentrate just on those obscure episodes from the past which show that we are, indeed, a nation like others, also with things to be ashamed for.
But in view of the historical discussion taking place ‘in the void’, those who profess allegiance to the truth should check their facts carefully. For instance, the post-war ‘revenge’ on the Germans cannot be seen outside the context of what was happening in communist Poland : it was an enslaved nation, with people fighting against the Soviet imposed system and being killed for it.
The country was ruled by a handful of Soviet-imposed puppets, and many horrible things that happened at that time - including running the camps for ethnic Germans - had nothing to do with ordinary Poles, and much to do with the Soviet puppets - who , incidentally, included not only ethnic Poles (see ’An Eye for and An Eye’ by John Sack, Basic Books).
I suggest that people who think this group shows a tendency to national smugness confront us with CONCRETE examples of what they actually resent, before making us stray - again - from the RRR aims to which we are dedicated.