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  • KYER, JEFFREY
    ... Many of your clan ring will have their own agendas. There are folks who hate beastmen, undead, elves, trolls and dragonnewts. And men and women and
    Message 1 of 6 , May 1, 2000
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      Niki Karras wrote:
      >
      > One of my clan leaders, Renatha (Heroic Magic and Bargaining), a worshipper
      > of Chalana Arroy, seems to be a feminist. She takes women's sides in
      > everything, and the event when the men say the women aren't respecting them
      > is worsened because she makes such inflammatory statements about the men.
      > Has anyone else noticed this, am I the first, or am I just hallucinating?
      >
      > --Niki
      > nkarras@...
      > A zebra does not change its spots.- Al Gore
      >

      Many of your clan ring will have their own agendas. There are folks who
      hate beastmen, undead, elves, trolls and dragonnewts. And men and women
      and weaponthanes and carls.

      They will prove to be disruptive and annoying elements in your otherwise
      harmonious clans.

      Best have her visit Craigspider or go on exploration missions in the
      Hollow. You will get soem use out of her. She won't be around to casue
      trouble and she will eventually die.

      Jeff
    • Bryan Thexton
      ... Its a tough call with a really good leader like this. I find I can stand one disruptive ring member, two if I don t have a trickster. Any more than that
      Message 2 of 6 , May 1, 2000
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        --- "KYER, JEFFREY" <jeff.kyer@...> wrote:
        >
        >
        > Niki Karras wrote:
        > >
        > > One of my clan leaders, Renatha (Heroic Magic and
        > Bargaining), a worshipper
        > > of Chalana Arroy, seems to be a feminist. She
        > takes women's sides in
        > > everything, and the event when the men say the
        > women aren't respecting them
        > > is worsened because she makes such inflammatory
        > statements about the men.
        > > Has anyone else noticed this, am I the first, or
        > am I just hallucinating?
        > >
        > > --Niki
        > > nkarras@...
        > > A zebra does not change its spots.- Al Gore
        > >
        >
        > Many of your clan ring will have their own agendas.
        > There are folks who
        > hate beastmen, undead, elves, trolls and
        > dragonnewts. And men and women
        > and weaponthanes and carls.
        >
        > They will prove to be disruptive and annoying
        > elements in your otherwise
        > harmonious clans.
        >
        > Best have her visit Craigspider or go on exploration
        > missions in the
        > Hollow. You will get soem use out of her. She
        > won't be around to casue
        > trouble and she will eventually die.
        >
        > Jeff
        >
        Its a tough call with a really good leader like this.
        I find I can stand one disruptive ring member, two if
        I don't have a trickster. Any more than that and not
        only does the problems they create begin to get large,
        but also I find I start missing out on good advice,
        because instead of telling me something relevant they
        are ranting about how this is an opportunity to crush
        the elves, or whatever.

        I think the agenda thing is the most annoying when it
        is one of your ring specialists, like your lhankor My
        lawspeaker, or your Issaries chief trader. It really
        hurts when in an event your lawspeaker doesn't offer
        relavent advice.

        Of course, sometimes the agenda isn't so disruptive,
        and makes for memorable characters. My Uraldan who
        was always pushing for war and bloodshed, or my
        Orlanthi magician who has the big soft spot for
        marriages.

        All in all, one of the really cool features that makes
        the game so engagine, IMO.

        --Bryan

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      • Martin Crim
        ... That doesn t strike me as particularly wise advice, when she s Heroic in two skills. I d say to ignore her. I certainly ignore the various factions on my
        Message 3 of 6 , May 1, 2000
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          At 10:15 AM 05/01/2000 -0400, KYER, JEFFREY wrote:
          >Niki Karras wrote:
          >>
          >> One of my clan leaders, Renatha (Heroic Magic and Bargaining), a worshipper
          >> of Chalana Arroy, seems to be a feminist. She takes women's sides in
          >> everything, and the event when the men say the women aren't respecting them
          >> is worsened because she makes such inflammatory statements about the men.
          >> Has anyone else noticed this, am I the first, or am I just hallucinating?
          >
          >Many of your clan ring will have their own agendas. There are folks who
          >hate beastmen, undead, elves, trolls and dragonnewts. And men and women
          >and weaponthanes and carls.
          >
          >They will prove to be disruptive and annoying elements in your otherwise
          >harmonious clans.
          >
          >Best have her visit Craigspider or go on exploration missions in the
          >Hollow. You will get soem use out of her. She won't be around to casue
          >trouble and she will eventually die.

          That doesn't strike me as particularly wise advice, when she's Heroic in
          two skills. I'd say to ignore her. I certainly ignore the various factions
          on my ring except when it suits me to listen to them.

          It's also important to note that there IS a magic point penalty (and
          possibly a mood hit) if you have an all-male or all-female ring. You get
          complaints if there's only 1 male or 1 female, but there's no real penalty
          there. I've been unable to determine if the nattering nabobs who say, "Our
          virility is assured because we have lots of men on our ring" or "Our
          fertility is assured ..." etc., are blowing smoke or talking sense.

          --Martin
        • Martin Crim
          ... Yup, she s the Thanatari. I didn t kill them for no reason; I killed them to start a war! We ve grown soft! --M
          Message 4 of 6 , May 1, 2000
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            At 07:34 AM 05/01/2000 -0700, Bryan Thexton wrote:
            >Of course, sometimes the agenda isn't so disruptive,
            >and makes for memorable characters. My Uraldan who
            >was always pushing for war and bloodshed,

            Yup, she's the Thanatari. "I didn't kill them for no reason; I killed them
            to start a war! We've grown soft!"

            --M
          • Christian Beijner
            Yes I noticed this to. There are also masculinist males. My feminist noble even suggested we have only women on the ring, but I noticed no effects except
            Message 5 of 6 , May 1, 2000
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              Yes I noticed this to.
              There are also masculinist males.
              My feminist noble even suggested we have only women on the ring, but I
              noticed no effects except perhaps lower sacred time magic for doing this.
              (And yes, the masculinist noble suggested the same thing (but only men on ring))
            • Niki Karras
              One of my Tricksters (It s 1440, so I ve had a *lot*) mentioned an Eurmali heroquest... She s funny, and I don t know if it was even thought of, but I thought
              Message 6 of 6 , May 2, 2000
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                One of my Tricksters (It's 1440, so I've had a *lot*) mentioned an Eurmali
                heroquest... She's funny, and I don't know if it was even thought of, but I
                thought it was kinda cool.

                --Niki

                nkarras@... <mailto:nkarras@...>

                A zebra does not change its spots.- Al Gore



                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: Bryan Thexton [mailto:bethexton@...]
                > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 10:35 AM
                > To: KingOfDragonPass@egroups.com
                > Subject: Re: [KoDP] Feminist Noble?
                >
                >
                > --- "KYER, JEFFREY" <jeff.kyer@...> wrote:
                > >
                > >
                > > Niki Karras wrote:
                > > >
                > > > One of my clan leaders, Renatha (Heroic Magic and
                > > Bargaining), a worshipper
                > > > of Chalana Arroy, seems to be a feminist. She
                > > takes women's sides in
                > > > everything, and the event when the men say the
                > > women aren't respecting them
                > > > is worsened because she makes such inflammatory
                > > statements about the men.
                > > > Has anyone else noticed this, am I the first, or
                > > am I just hallucinating?
                > > >
                > > > --Niki
                > > > nkarras@...
                > > > A zebra does not change its spots.- Al Gore
                > > >
                > >
                > > Many of your clan ring will have their own agendas.
                > > There are folks who
                > > hate beastmen, undead, elves, trolls and
                > > dragonnewts. And men and women
                > > and weaponthanes and carls.
                > >
                > > They will prove to be disruptive and annoying
                > > elements in your otherwise
                > > harmonious clans.
                > >
                > > Best have her visit Craigspider or go on exploration
                > > missions in the
                > > Hollow. You will get soem use out of her. She
                > > won't be around to casue
                > > trouble and she will eventually die.
                > >
                > > Jeff
                > >
                > Its a tough call with a really good leader like this.
                > I find I can stand one disruptive ring member, two if
                > I don't have a trickster. Any more than that and not
                > only does the problems they create begin to get large,
                > but also I find I start missing out on good advice,
                > because instead of telling me something relevant they
                > are ranting about how this is an opportunity to crush
                > the elves, or whatever.
                >
                > I think the agenda thing is the most annoying when it
                > is one of your ring specialists, like your lhankor My
                > lawspeaker, or your Issaries chief trader. It really
                > hurts when in an event your lawspeaker doesn't offer
                > relavent advice.
                >
                > Of course, sometimes the agenda isn't so disruptive,
                > and makes for memorable characters. My Uraldan who
                > was always pushing for war and bloodshed, or my
                > Orlanthi magician who has the big soft spot for
                > marriages.
                >
                > All in all, one of the really cool features that makes
                > the game so engagine, IMO.
                >
                > --Bryan
                >
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