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RE: [KWChoir] Re: PDFs of Pennsic 36 Program German Pronounciation primer

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  • Lisa Briner
    My singer daughter learned it this way: When the first vowel is walkin - the second does the talkin (silly, but effective) Ysabel ... From: Katie
    Message 1 of 16 , Feb 20, 2007
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      My singer daughter learned it this way:
      When the first vowel is walkin' - the second does the talkin'
      (silly, but effective)

      Ysabel

      ----Original Message Follows----
      From: "Katie Sadler-Stephenson" <katiesadler78@...>
      Reply-To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
      To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [KWChoir] Re: PDFs of Pennsic 36 Program German Pronounciation
      primer
      Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:48:13 -0000

      I would also add, don't be afraid of German, it's easier than it looks
      because it's a consistent language. And one thing that is helpful
      with words with "ie" or "ei" in them is just to pronounce the second
      vowel. If it has "ei" it is "eye" as someone put it earlier and "ie"
      is "eee". In college I always just used to cross out the first vowel
      until I got really comfortable with that!

      --- In KWChoir@yahoogroups.com, Christine Bakken/Bridget <clysne@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > I very much thank you both for your help. I will certainly take a
      stab at it. by summer I might even get it.
      >
      > Christine
      >
    • erlannordenskald
      Hey all, Erlan here. Just a heads up to all our members. 1) SPAMMING WILL NOT BE TOLERATED 2) Try and edit your posts by deleting the digests when answering or
      Message 2 of 16 , Feb 20, 2007
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        Hey all, Erlan here.
        Just a heads up to all our members.
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        that's all

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      • chrissings@juno.com
        Thanks guys. No worries. We will go over all pronunciations in rehearsal to ensure everyone is pronouncing things the same way. I feel fairly comfortable
        Message 3 of 16 , Feb 24, 2007
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          Thanks guys.  No worries.  We will go over all pronunciations in rehearsal to ensure everyone is pronouncing things the same way.  I feel fairly comfortable with German and the Latin.

          I don't feel quite as comfortable with French.  I avoided it like the plague in college to nasal sounding for me.     

          Is there anyone on the list who speaks french well enough to help out the ole director with the pronouciation of of Chantez a Dieu?

          Thanks!

          Arianna M.

          -- Christine Bakken/Bridget <clysne@...> wrote:

          I very much thank you both for your help.  I will certainly take a stab at it.  by summer I might even get it.
           
          Christine

          Karen Kasper <arianna_wyn@ yahoo.com> wrote:
          Thanks, Geffrei! 
           
          My choir has been singing this piece for about a year now, and that was pretty accurate except that the words beginning with S usually don't sound like an English "S", but either a "Z" or an "Sh."  For example, "sein" and "sich" are pronounced "zine" (long i) and "zich" (short i, Scottish ch), while "stein," "stimmt" and "stets" are pronounced "shtine" (also long i), "shtimt" (short i) and "shtets" (short e).
           
          Arianna of Wynthrope (*not* Arianna Morgan) :-)

          William Mauldin <wmmauldin@earthlink .net> wrote:
          Here�s a stab at phonetically spelling Musica, Die ganz Lieblich Kunst. Pronounce all letters.
          Musica = Moo-si-ka short i
          Die = dee
          Ganz = gahntz G as in gate
          Lieblich = leeb-lich ch as in Scottish loch
          Kunst = koonst oo as in soon
          Ist = ist short i
          Ehrenwert = eh � wren � vert   eh is like slang for I can�t hear you.
          Zu = tzoo
          Halten = hall � ten
          Hat = hat a as in father
          Billig = bill � lig short I�s pronounch both L�s
          Allenthaben = ahl � lent � hahl � ben
          Gunst = goon-st
          Bei = bye
          Jungen = yoon-gen
          Und = oont
          Alten = all-ten
          Leidet = Lie � det
          Schmerz = schm � er - tz pronounce all letters. �er� as in early
          Tut = toot
          All = all
          Unmut = un � moot
          Vertreiben = Fer-try-ben
          Traurig = Traw-rig almost put a �K� in the �G�
          Niemand = Nee � man � d
          Bleiben = bli � ben long I
          Viel = Feel
          Elder = elder
          Kraft = craft
          Zie = zee
          Mitsich = mit-si-sh short i
          Bringt = bring-t
          Davon = da � fon
          Wir = veer
          Alle = all-le
          Zeu-gen = tzeu � gen  eu as in Sigmund Freud
          Durch = doer � ch  ch as above
          Hertze = Hertz � a  like the car company with �a� on the end.
          Dringt = I as in pin not English ing pronounce everything
          Ihr = ear
          Lieblichkeit = Lee-b-lich-kite
          Wer = Ver  er as in early
          K�nnt = Kern � t
          Lob = Lobe
          Verschweigen = Fir � schwi � gen  long I in the middle sylable
          Es = Ess
          M�sst = Mers-st er as in early
          Doch = o as in doe ch as in Scottish loch
          Sein = sign
          Ein = as above without the S
          Harter = a as in father e as in tent
          Stein = as in vessel for beer Stine
          Der = short e like eh
          Sich = short I ch like loch
          Nicht = short I, ch like loch, t
          Liess = lee � ss
          Bewegen = Beh-vA-gen
          Wenn = venn
          Gesangtut = ge-song-toot
          Regen = ra � gen
          Drum = droom
          Wollen = vohl-len
          Heller = hell � ler
          Frau = fraw
          Stets = short e
          Preisen = prize � en
          Gewisslich = guh-vish-lish
          Immerdar = im-meer-dar
          Stimmt = stem � mt
          Erklingen = er � cling � en
          Den = Long German e almost dane
          H�rt = hurt
          This covers most of the words and will not be completely accurate but will give you a good starting place.
          Geffrei

          From: KWChoir@yahoogroups .com [mailto: KWChoir@yahoogroups .com ] On Behalf Of chrissings@juno. com
          Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:08 PM
          To: KWChoir@yahoogroups .com
          Subject: Re: [KWChoir] PDFs of Pennsic 36 Program
          German tends to be much more challenging that latin.

          -- Christine Bakken/Bridget <clysne@yahoo. com> wrote:




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        • Ysolt la Bretonne
          I was a French major in college (mumble, mumble) years ago. Of course that was modern French. I am *acquainted* with period pronunciation, but no expert. Will
          Message 4 of 16 , Feb 24, 2007
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            I was a French major in college (mumble, mumble) years ago. Of course
            that was modern French. I am *acquainted* with period pronunciation,
            but no expert. Will you be at KASF next week? We could do a first pass
            on it there.

            Ysolt
            --
            Maîtresse Ysolt la Bretonne, OP
            Barony of Windmasters' Hill
          • chrissings@juno.com
            Merci Beaucoup (sp?) Madame Ysolt: I will be a Kingdom A&S encouraging Pennsic Choir participation....among other things. Master Corun loaned me a really nifty
            Message 5 of 16 , Feb 24, 2007
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              Merci Beaucoup (sp?) Madame Ysolt:

              I will be a Kingdom A&S encouraging Pennsic Choir participation....among other things.

              Master Corun loaned me a really nifty book that may help us "periodize" (I'm pretty sure that's not a real word - - but it gets the point accross) the modern French.

              Your help is always appreciated.

              See you next week!

              Arianna M.


              -- Ysolt la Bretonne <ysolt@...> wrote:

              I was a French major in college (mumble, mumble) years ago. Of course
              that was modern French. I am *acquainted* with period pronunciation,
              but no expert. Will you be at KASF next week? We could do a first pass
              on it there.

              Ysolt
              --
              Ma�tresse Ysolt la Bretonne, OP
              Barony of Windmasters' Hill

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