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  • Maria Eskinazi
    Please keep discussion going. We read it and we honestly do talk about rehearsal schedules and the possibilities of doing something different.      SO,
    Message 1 of 18 , Aug 17, 2011
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      Please keep discussion going. We read it and we honestly do talk about rehearsal schedules and the possibilities of doing something different.  
         SO, now that we are HOME from war and getting life back in order... I should make a few announcements...
      First - THANK YOU to each and every one of you who participated in the choir this year.  Even if you came to sing but couldn't keep it going for this year - THANK YOU.
         This year really made me feel wonderful about music again and I thank you for it.
        So I would like to announce that next year's choir will be directed by Master Robyn Solarus once again and we are HAPPY to have him back in the director's chair.  As a treat, he will have a guest director for one piece, the lovely Soprano Section leader Eliane from Northshield.  
            It is the Choir's hopes and dreams to be able to host more workshops and musical classes next year at war and if you're interested in something - LET US KNOW.. and we will make every attempt at putting it together.
         So, now it's all left to organize for next year.  
      Thank you Robyn for volunteering!

      In service
      LADY Erlandr Nordenskald
      :)
       

      Love is enternal

      G. Scott Eskinazi 1967-2009



      From: "KWChoir@yahoogroups.com" <KWChoir@yahoogroups.com>
      To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:54 AM
      Subject: [KWChoir] Digest Number 716

      There are 5 messages in this issue.

      Topics in this digest:

      1a. Can I "swing" it?   
          From: elecviolnplar10
      1b. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
          From: Steven Mansfield
      1c. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
          From: Jo-Ann
      1d. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
          From: Michelle Faid
      1e. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
          From: mlaf


      Messages
      ________________________________________________________________________
      1a. Can I "swing" it?
          Posted by: "elecviolnplar10" elecviolnplar101@... elecviolnplar10
          Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:16 pm ((PDT))

      Hallo!

      I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances due to this dilemma.

      I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both? Can I "swing" it, as it were?

      Many happy trails.
      ~Kharis






      Messages in this topic (5)
      ________________________________________________________________________
      1b. Re: Can I "swing" it?
          Posted by: "Steven Mansfield" oroboro.steve@... dudeling2000
          Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:25 pm ((PDT))

      The short answer is: it's possible, but not without some work.

      Overall, it would require planning in advance, and making sure you did a
      good amount of preparation in advance.  At least the past two years we've
      done quite a bit of rehearsing during peace week.

      As I learned last year, though, it may mean compromising between the two.
      There are a lot of classes I'd like to take, but due to rehearsal schedules,
      I can't do.  It wasn't so bad this year, but last year I missed a good
      number of classes due to schedule conflicts.  It may simply come down to
      what you want to do more.

      On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, elecviolnplar10 <
      elecviolnplar101@...> wrote:

      > **
      >
      >
      > Hallo!
      >
      > I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I
      > started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the
      > rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of
      > a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up
      > not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances
      > due to this dilemma.
      >
      > I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get
      > into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both?
      > Can I "swing" it, as it were?
      >
      > Many happy trails.
      >
      ~Kharis
      >

      >



      --
      Steve Mansfield
      425-829-8729 (Cell)
      425-298-7614 (Google Voice)




      Messages in this topic (5)
      ________________________________________________________________________
      1c. Re: Can I "swing" it?
          Posted by: "Jo-Ann" JoniSyngs@... jonisyngs
          Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:35 pm ((PDT))

      We also missed out this year due to my son's Boffer Tournament schedule, sorry to say.  I'm not sure that is going to change . . . 

      For those of us who do sight-read music, is there a requisite number of rehearsals we need to attend?

      Siiri










      -----Original Message-----
      From: Steven Mansfield <oroboro.steve@...>
      To: KWChoir <KWChoir@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:25 pm
      Subject: Re: [KWChoir] Can I "swing" it?


       
         
                       
      The short answer is: it's possible, but not without some work.

      Overall, it would require planning in advance, and making sure you did a good amount of preparation in advance.  At least the past two years we've done quite a bit of rehearsing during peace week.

      As I learned last year, though, it may mean compromising between the two.  There are a lot of classes I'd like to take, but due to rehearsal schedules, I can't do.  It wasn't so bad this year, but last year I missed a good number of classes due to schedule conflicts.  It may simply come down to what you want to do more.


      On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, elecviolnplar10 <elecviolnplar101@...> wrote:


       
         
                       
      Hallo!

      I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances due to this dilemma.

      I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both? Can I "swing" it, as it were?

      Many happy trails.
      ~Kharis


         
                 

       




      --
      Steve Mansfield
      425-829-8729 (Cell)
      425-298-7614 (Google Voice)


         
                 

       





      Messages in this topic (5)
      ________________________________________________________________________
      1d. Re: Can I "swing" it?
          Posted by: "Michelle Faid" trinitysong@... trisanachandler
          Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:07 pm ((PDT))

      I can tell you from my own experience that it requires a lot of commitment.
      I wasn't able to do choir this year because the commitment it required last
      year was going to ask too much of me this time around. I can't really
      imagine choir *and *fighting, since there are battles in the middle of
      rehearsals, and with only 7-9 rehearsals to learn 5-9 pieces as a group,
      you're basically tossing away a huge portion of your readiness and
      preparation to miss even one.

      It's all very well and good to listen to the learning tracks and sight read,
      but frankly, a choir isn't a group of individuals all showing up to sing at
      the same time - that's a caroling group. Last year when Robin directed, and
      the year before with Arianna, we saw a lot of very specific directions you
      would totally miss by not attending - half the choir should swallow their
      "S" sound so we aren't hissing vipers! Say bon-bon-bon like a chicken! Ham
      up the part about the goat! The song is about Queen Elizabeth, so be
      majestic! Forte! Mezzopiano! Etcetera.

      I suppose it's a matter for the KWC directors; there's a difference between
      a caroling choir that all shows up and sings the same general things that
      everyone knows, and a choir that trains together and works on the same
      pieces and learns to blend. I was a section lead for Pennsic 39, and I ran
      into frustrations when people who attended less than half the rehearsals
      asked the same questions that had been asked previously on all of the songs.
      To me, it's a matter of respect for your fellow performers; they're
      committing two hours a day, and if a half hour of that is spent catching up
      all the people who only committed to a few days of it and are clearly
      behind, that's wasting their time.

      If you're a super sponge and you're awesome at picking things up and working
      with a choir with little preparation and you can take notes off of everyone
      else's music for directions, then go you. Honestly, I'm not that good. I
      need every day and I need to get every direction myself to understand it, or
      else I'm the cog in the machine that squeaks.

      Tegwen ferch Cydifor ap Bleddyd


      On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Steven Mansfield
      <oroboro.steve@...>wrote:

      > **
      >
      >
      > The short answer is: it's possible, but not without some work.
      >
      > Overall, it would require planning in advance, and making sure you did a
      > good amount of preparation in advance.  At least the past two years we've
      > done quite a bit of rehearsing during peace week.
      >
      > As I learned last year, though, it may mean compromising between the two.
      > There are a lot of classes I'd like to take, but due to rehearsal schedules,
      > I can't do.  It wasn't so bad this year, but last year I missed a good
      > number of classes due to schedule conflicts.  It may simply come down to
      > what you want to do more.
      >
      >
      > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, elecviolnplar10 <
      > elecviolnplar101@...> wrote:
      >
      >> **
      >>
      >>
      >> Hallo!
      >>
      >> I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I
      >> started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the
      >> rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of
      >> a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up
      >> not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances
      >> due to this dilemma.
      >>
      >> I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get
      >> into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both?
      >> Can I "swing" it, as it were?
      >>
      >> Many happy trails.
      >> ~Kharis
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > --
      > Steve Mansfield
      > 425-829-8729 (Cell)
      > 425-298-7614 (Google Voice)
      >

      >




      Messages in this topic (5)
      ________________________________________________________________________
      1e. Re: Can I "swing" it?
          Posted by: "mlaf" mlaf@...
          Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:00 pm ((PDT))

      I don't know if this is an option or not but...when I was in college, I participated in a number of festival programs.  We would rehearse all day Friday, all day Saturday (I mean 2-3 hours at a time, with meal breaks) and then perform Saturday night.  I've also participated in a couple of college allumni quires that have done the same type of thing for recording - reherse several hours on Friday night, then again Saturday Morning & afternoon, and perform and/or record Saturday night.  I don't know how many performances the Choir does at Pennsic, because, although I joined the list a couple of years ago, I haven't been able to attend Pennsic.  But is that feasable, at all?  Instead of spreading rehersals throughout Pennsic, and missing a lot of different things, designate a couple of days that are simply dedicated to rehersal.  Maybe one full day during the first week, and a second full day on performance day...that way, people who want to fight, take classes, etc will have the opportunity to do both.

      Melandra



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    • Michelle Faid
      A single or two day cram might be preferable for some people, but really difficult for others. I d be interested to hear more on that. We create gravity to
      Message 2 of 18 , Aug 17, 2011
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        A single or two day 'cram' might be preferable for some people, but really difficult for others. I'd be interested to hear more on that.

        "We create gravity to give weight to things
        Then things fall and things break
        And gravity sings."



        On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Maria Eskinazi <daggett42@...> wrote:
         

        Please keep discussion going. We read it and we honestly do talk about rehearsal schedules and the possibilities of doing something different.  
           SO, now that we are HOME from war and getting life back in order... I should make a few announcements...
        First - THANK YOU to each and every one of you who participated in the choir this year.  Even if you came to sing but couldn't keep it going for this year - THANK YOU.
           This year really made me feel wonderful about music again and I thank you for it.
          So I would like to announce that next year's choir will be directed by Master Robyn Solarus once again and we are HAPPY to have him back in the director's chair.  As a treat, he will have a guest director for one piece, the lovely Soprano Section leader Eliane from Northshield.  
              It is the Choir's hopes and dreams to be able to host more workshops and musical classes next year at war and if you're interested in something - LET US KNOW.. and we will make every attempt at putting it together.
           So, now it's all left to organize for next year.  
        Thank you Robyn for volunteering!

        In service
        LADY Erlandr Nordenskald
        :)

         

        Love is enternal

        G. Scott Eskinazi 1967-2009



        From: "KWChoir@yahoogroups.com" <KWChoir@yahoogroups.com>
        To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:54 AM
        Subject: [KWChoir] Digest Number 716

        There are 5 messages in this issue.

        Topics in this digest:

        1a. Can I "swing" it?   
            From: elecviolnplar10
        1b. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
            From: Steven Mansfield
        1c. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
            From: Jo-Ann
        1d. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
            From: Michelle Faid
        1e. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
            From: mlaf


        Messages
        ________________________________________________________________________
        1a. Can I "swing" it?
            Posted by: "elecviolnplar10" elecviolnplar101@... elecviolnplar10
            Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:16 pm ((PDT))

        Hallo!

        I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances due to this dilemma.

        I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both? Can I "swing" it, as it were?

        Many happy trails.
        ~Kharis






        Messages in this topic (5)
        ________________________________________________________________________
        1b. Re: Can I "swing" it?
            Posted by: "Steven Mansfield" oroboro.steve@... dudeling2000
            Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:25 pm ((PDT))

        The short answer is: it's possible, but not without some work.

        Overall, it would require planning in advance, and making sure you did a
        good amount of preparation in advance.  At least the past two years we've
        done quite a bit of rehearsing during peace week.

        As I learned last year, though, it may mean compromising between the two.
        There are a lot of classes I'd like to take, but due to rehearsal schedules,
        I can't do.  It wasn't so bad this year, but last year I missed a good
        number of classes due to schedule conflicts.  It may simply come down to
        what you want to do more.

        On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, elecviolnplar10 <
        elecviolnplar101@...> wrote:

        > **
        >
        >
        > Hallo!
        >
        > I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I
        > started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the
        > rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of
        > a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up
        > not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances
        > due to this dilemma.
        >
        > I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get
        > into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both?
        > Can I "swing" it, as it were?
        >
        > Many happy trails.
        > ~Kharis
        >

        >



        --
        Steve Mansfield
        425-829-8729 (Cell)
        425-298-7614 (Google Voice)




        Messages in this topic (5)
        ________________________________________________________________________
        1c. Re: Can I "swing" it?
            Posted by: "Jo-Ann" JoniSyngs@... jonisyngs
            Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:35 pm ((PDT))

        We also missed out this year due to my son's Boffer Tournament schedule, sorry to say.  I'm not sure that is going to change . . . 

        For those of us who do sight-read music, is there a requisite number of rehearsals we need to attend?

        Siiri










        -----Original Message-----
        From: Steven Mansfield <oroboro.steve@...>
        To: KWChoir <KWChoir@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:25 pm
        Subject: Re: [KWChoir] Can I "swing" it?


         
           
                         
        The short answer is: it's possible, but not without some work.

        Overall, it would require planning in advance, and making sure you did a good amount of preparation in advance.  At least the past two years we've done quite a bit of rehearsing during peace week.

        As I learned last year, though, it may mean compromising between the two.  There are a lot of classes I'd like to take, but due to rehearsal schedules, I can't do.  It wasn't so bad this year, but last year I missed a good number of classes due to schedule conflicts.  It may simply come down to what you want to do more.


        On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, elecviolnplar10 <elecviolnplar101@...> wrote:


         
           
                         
        Hallo!

        I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances due to this dilemma.

        I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both? Can I "swing" it, as it were?

        Many happy trails.
        ~Kharis


           
                   

         




        --
        Steve Mansfield
        425-829-8729 (Cell)
        425-298-7614 (Google Voice)


           
                   

         





        Messages in this topic (5)
        ________________________________________________________________________
        1d. Re: Can I "swing" it?
            Posted by: "Michelle Faid" trinitysong@... trisanachandler
            Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:07 pm ((PDT))

        I can tell you from my own experience that it requires a lot of commitment.
        I wasn't able to do choir this year because the commitment it required last
        year was going to ask too much of me this time around. I can't really
        imagine choir *and *fighting, since there are battles in the middle of
        rehearsals, and with only 7-9 rehearsals to learn 5-9 pieces as a group,
        you're basically tossing away a huge portion of your readiness and
        preparation to miss even one.

        It's all very well and good to listen to the learning tracks and sight read,
        but frankly, a choir isn't a group of individuals all showing up to sing at
        the same time - that's a caroling group. Last year when Robin directed, and
        the year before with Arianna, we saw a lot of very specific directions you
        would totally miss by not attending - half the choir should swallow their
        "S" sound so we aren't hissing vipers! Say bon-bon-bon like a chicken! Ham
        up the part about the goat! The song is about Queen Elizabeth, so be
        majestic! Forte! Mezzopiano! Etcetera.

        I suppose it's a matter for the KWC directors; there's a difference between
        a caroling choir that all shows up and sings the same general things that
        everyone knows, and a choir that trains together and works on the same
        pieces and learns to blend. I was a section lead for Pennsic 39, and I ran
        into frustrations when people who attended less than half the rehearsals
        asked the same questions that had been asked previously on all of the songs.
        To me, it's a matter of respect for your fellow performers; they're
        committing two hours a day, and if a half hour of that is spent catching up
        all the people who only committed to a few days of it and are clearly
        behind, that's wasting their time.

        If you're a super sponge and you're awesome at picking things up and working
        with a choir with little preparation and you can take notes off of everyone
        else's music for directions, then go you. Honestly, I'm not that good. I
        need every day and I need to get every direction myself to understand it, or
        else I'm the cog in the machine that squeaks.

        Tegwen ferch Cydifor ap Bleddyd


        On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Steven Mansfield
        <oroboro.steve@...>wrote:

        > **
        >
        >
        > The short answer is: it's possible, but not without some work.
        >
        > Overall, it would require planning in advance, and making sure you did a
        > good amount of preparation in advance.  At least the past two years we've
        > done quite a bit of rehearsing during peace week.
        >
        > As I learned last year, though, it may mean compromising between the two.
        > There are a lot of classes I'd like to take, but due to rehearsal schedules,
        > I can't do.  It wasn't so bad this year, but last year I missed a good
        > number of classes due to schedule conflicts.  It may simply come down to
        > what you want to do more.
        >
        >
        > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, elecviolnplar10 <
        > elecviolnplar101@...> wrote:
        >
        >> **
        >>
        >>
        >> Hallo!
        >>
        >> I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I
        >> started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the
        >> rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of
        >> a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up
        >> not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances
        >> due to this dilemma.
        >>
        >> I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get
        >> into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both?
        >> Can I "swing" it, as it were?
        >>
        >> Many happy trails.
        >> ~Kharis
        >>
        >>
        >
        >
        > --
        > Steve Mansfield
        > 425-829-8729 (Cell)
        > 425-298-7614 (Google Voice)
        >

        >




        Messages in this topic (5)
        ________________________________________________________________________
        1e. Re: Can I "swing" it?
            Posted by: "mlaf" mlaf@...
            Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:00 pm ((PDT))

        I don't know if this is an option or not but...when I was in college, I participated in a number of festival programs.  We would rehearse all day Friday, all day Saturday (I mean 2-3 hours at a time, with meal breaks) and then perform Saturday night.  I've also participated in a couple of college allumni quires that have done the same type of thing for recording - reherse several hours on Friday night, then again Saturday Morning & afternoon, and perform and/or record Saturday night.  I don't know how many performances the Choir does at Pennsic, because, although I joined the list a couple of years ago, I haven't been able to attend Pennsic.  But is that feasable, at all?  Instead of spreading rehersals throughout Pennsic, and missing a lot of different things, designate a couple of days that are simply dedicated to rehersal.  Maybe one full day during the first week, and a second full day on performance day...that way, people who want to fight, take classes, etc will have the opportunity to do both.

        Melandra



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      • Kyla
        There is this discussion going on (see email chain below) on the Pbardic list, regarding bardic collegium scheduling and a potential music track. Perhaps these
        Message 3 of 18 , Aug 18, 2011
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          There is this discussion going on (see email chain below) on the Pbardic list, regarding bardic collegium scheduling and a potential music track.
          Perhaps these could be co-ordinated with the classes being considered for next year?
           
          Tabitha Pennywarden
          Ravenslake, Midlands
          Middle Kingdom
           

          -----Original Message-----
          From:
          pbardic-bounces@... [mailto:pbardic-bounces@...]On Behalf Of Mark Cipra
          Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:35 AM
          To: 'Margrett Norwoode'
          Cc:
          pbardic@...; SCA_BARDS@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [Pbardic] [SCA_BARDS] Bardic Collegium
           
          So counted. If we just can't reasonably change the start time, none of the sessions are so rigidly structured that you wouldn't get something out of the second hour.
           
          Llywelyn Glyndyverdwy, called Glyndwr (Mark Cipra)
          __
           
          "When in doubt, end with a jig" - Robin McCauley
           
           
           
          From: Margrett Norwoode [mailto:mistressmargrett@...]
          Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:16 AM
          To: Mark Cipra
          Cc:
          pbardic@...; SCA_BARDS@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [Pbardic] [SCA_BARDS] Bardic Collegium
           
          Count me in as someone who would LOVE to attend or participate in bardic collegium but will never be able to do so due to Known World Choir from 3p to 5p.
           
          Margrett
           
           
           
          On Aug 16, 2011, at 5:51 AM, "Mark Cipra" <cipram@...> wrote:
           
          How convenient. Your message arrives just as it's announced that the mailing list related to the Collegium itself has been updated (I was waiting for this so that the new members would see the post). So here's my post-mortem and proposal for topics for next year.
           

          The Known World Bardic Collegium at Pennsic was very successful (more than 20 attendees each day), so I suppose we'll have to return for next year?
           
          I'd love to get more feedback, privately (cipram@...) or on these lists. I didn't hear too many suggestions at Pennsic for general improvement. Be aware that I will thoughtfully consider all comments, then cheerfully ignore them if I disagree :)
           
          One very good thought out of Pennsic was to get the entire day-by-day schedule out early enough to be covered in the official Pennsic publications, rather than having just a generic "topics of interest to bards" description (this was actually altered in the site book to suggest the topics would be chosen by participants on the spot; I'm not sure how this happened - I didn't write that). Even if the schedule has to be tweaked later, better to post changes on the boards and in the Independent than having people without any idea what's coming. I did my best to publicize via mailing lists and a web page, but using multiple communications channels is always better than just a couple.
           
          People seemed to feel that the 4-6pm time was good. This, of course, was the opinion of the people in attendance at that hour. If there are contrary opinions, I'd like to hear them. (One point that was brought up: the Choir rehearses from 3-5pm daily, so there's an inherent conflict. They have a well-established routine, so they have a better claim to the time. On the other hand, I can't see pushing the Collegium to a later hour. And it certainly has to be late enough in the day so that bards are actually awake. Help!)
           
           
          Llywelyn Glyndyverdwy, called Glyndwr (Mark Cipra)
           
          Provost, Known World Bardic Collegium at Pennsic XL
          __
           
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KWChoir@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Michelle Faid
          Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:37 PM
          To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [KWChoir] Digest Number 716

           

          A single or two day 'cram' might be preferable for some people, but really difficult for others. I'd be interested to hear more on that.


          "We create gravity to give weight to things
          Then things fall and things break
          And gravity sings."



          On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Maria Eskinazi <daggett42@...> wrote:
           

          Please keep discussion going. We read it and we honestly do talk about rehearsal schedules and the possibilities of doing something different.  
             SO, now that we are HOME from war and getting life back in order... I should make a few announcements...
          First - THANK YOU to each and every one of you who participated in the choir this year.  Even if you came to sing but couldn't keep it going for this year - THANK YOU.
             This year really made me feel wonderful about music again and I thank you for it.
            So I would like to announce that next year's choir will be directed by Master Robyn Solarus once again and we are HAPPY to have him back in the director's chair.  As a treat, he will have a guest director for one piece, the lovely Soprano Section leader Eliane from Northshield.  
                It is the Choir's hopes and dreams to be able to host more workshops and musical classes next year at war and if you're interested in something - LET US KNOW.. and we will make every attempt at putting it together.
             So, now it's all left to organize for next year.  
          Thank you Robyn for volunteering!

          In service
          LADY Erlandr Nordenskald
          :)

           

          Love is enternal

          G. Scott Eskinazi 1967-2009



          From: "KWChoir@yahoogroups.com" <KWChoir@yahoogroups.com>
          To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:54 AM
          Subject: [KWChoir] Digest Number 716

          There are 5 messages in this issue.

          Topics in this digest:

          1a. Can I "swing" it?   
              From: elecviolnplar10
          1b. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
              From: Steven Mansfield
          1c. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
              From: Jo-Ann
          1d. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
              From: Michelle Faid
          1e. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
              From: mlaf


          Messages
          ________________________________________________________________________
          1a. Can I "swing" it?
              Posted by: "elecviolnplar10" elecviolnplar101@... elecviolnplar10
              Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:16 pm ((PDT))

          Hallo!

          I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances due to this dilemma.

          I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both? Can I "swing" it, as it were?

          Many happy trails.
          ~Kharis






          Messages in this topic (5)
          ________________________________________________________________________
          1b. Re: Can I "swing" it?
              Posted by: "Steven Mansfield" oroboro.steve@... dudeling2000
              Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:25 pm ((PDT))

          The short answer is: it's possible, but not without some work.

          Overall, it would require planning in advance, and making sure you did a
          good amount of preparation in advance.  At least the past two years we've
          done quite a bit of rehearsing during peace week.

          As I learned last year, though, it may mean compromising between the two.
          There are a lot of classes I'd like to take, but due to rehearsal schedules,
          I can't do.  It wasn't so bad this year, but last year I missed a good
          number of classes due to schedule conflicts.  It may simply come down to
          what you want to do more.

          On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, elecviolnplar10 <
          elecviolnplar101@...> wrote:

          > **
          >
          >
          > Hallo!
          >
          > I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I
          > started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the
          > rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of
          > a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up
          > not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances
          > due to this dilemma.
          >
          > I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get
          > into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both?
          > Can I "swing" it, as it were?
          >
          > Many happy trails.
          > ~Kharis
          >

          >



          --
          Steve Mansfield
          425-829-8729 (Cell)
          425-298-7614 (Google Voice)




          Messages in this topic (5)
          ________________________________________________________________________
          1c. Re: Can I "swing" it?
              Posted by: "Jo-Ann" JoniSyngs@... jonisyngs
              Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:35 pm ((PDT))

          We also missed out this year due to my son's Boffer Tournament schedule, sorry to say.  I'm not sure that is going to change . . . 

          For those of us who do sight-read music, is there a requisite number of rehearsals we need to attend?

          Siiri










          -----Original Message-----
          From: Steven Mansfield <oroboro.steve@...>
          To: KWChoir <KWChoir@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:25 pm
          Subject: Re: [KWChoir] Can I "swing" it?


           
             
                           
          The short answer is: it's possible, but not without some work.

          Overall, it would require planning in advance, and making sure you did a good amount of preparation in advance.  At least the past two years we've done quite a bit of rehearsing during peace week.

          As I learned last year, though, it may mean compromising between the two.  There are a lot of classes I'd like to take, but due to rehearsal schedules, I can't do.  It wasn't so bad this year, but last year I missed a good number of classes due to schedule conflicts.  It may simply come down to what you want to do more.


          On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, elecviolnplar10 <elecviolnplar101@...> wrote:


           
             
                           
          Hallo!

          I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances due to this dilemma.

          I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both? Can I "swing" it, as it were?

          Many happy trails.
          ~Kharis


             
                     

           




          --
          Steve Mansfield
          425-829-8729 (Cell)
          425-298-7614 (Google Voice)


             
                     

           





          Messages in this topic (5)
          ________________________________________________________________________
          1d. Re: Can I "swing" it?
              Posted by: "Michelle Faid" trinitysong@... trisanachandler
              Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:07 pm ((PDT))

          I can tell you from my own experience that it requires a lot of commitment.
          I wasn't able to do choir this year because the commitment it required last
          year was going to ask too much of me this time around. I can't really
          imagine choir *and *fighting, since there are battles in the middle of
          rehearsals, and with only 7-9 rehearsals to learn 5-9 pieces as a group,
          you're basically tossing away a huge portion of your readiness and
          preparation to miss even one.

          It's all very well and good to listen to the learning tracks and sight read,
          but frankly, a choir isn't a group of individuals all showing up to sing at
          the same time - that's a caroling group. Last year when Robin directed, and
          the year before with Arianna, we saw a lot of very specific directions you
          would totally miss by not attending - half the choir should swallow their
          "S" sound so we aren't hissing vipers! Say bon-bon-bon like a chicken! Ham
          up the part about the goat! The song is about Queen Elizabeth, so be
          majestic! Forte! Mezzopiano! Etcetera.

          I suppose it's a matter for the KWC directors; there's a difference between
          a caroling choir that all shows up and sings the same general things that
          everyone knows, and a choir that trains together and works on the same
          pieces and learns to blend. I was a section lead for Pennsic 39, and I ran
          into frustrations when people who attended less than half the rehearsals
          asked the same questions that had been asked previously on all of the songs.
          To me, it's a matter of respect for your fellow performers; they're
          committing two hours a day, and if a half hour of that is spent catching up
          all the people who only committed to a few days of it and are clearly
          behind, that's wasting their time.

          If you're a super sponge and you're awesome at picking things up and working
          with a choir with little preparation and you can take notes off of everyone
          else's music for directions, then go you. Honestly, I'm not that good. I
          need every day and I need to get every direction myself to understand it, or
          else I'm the cog in the machine that squeaks.

          Tegwen ferch Cydifor ap Bleddyd


          On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Steven Mansfield
          <oroboro.steve@...>wrote:

          > **
          >
          >
          > The short answer is: it's possible, but not without some work.
          >
          > Overall, it would require planning in advance, and making sure you did a
          > good amount of preparation in advance.  At least the past two years we've
          > done quite a bit of rehearsing during peace week.
          >
          > As I learned last year, though, it may mean compromising between the two.
          > There are a lot of classes I'd like to take, but due to rehearsal schedules,
          > I can't do.  It wasn't so bad this year, but last year I missed a good
          > number of classes due to schedule conflicts.  It may simply come down to
          > what you want to do more.
          >
          >
          > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, elecviolnplar10 <
          > elecviolnplar101@...> wrote:
          >
          >> **
          >>
          >>
          >> Hallo!
          >>
          >> I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I
          >> started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the
          >> rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of
          >> a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up
          >> not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances
          >> due to this dilemma.
          >>
          >> I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get
          >> into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both?
          >> Can I "swing" it, as it were?
          >>
          >> Many happy trails.
          >> ~Kharis
          >>
          >>
          >
          >
          > --
          > Steve Mansfield
          > 425-829-8729 (Cell)
          > 425-298-7614 (Google Voice)
          >

          >




          Messages in this topic (5)
          ________________________________________________________________________
          1e. Re: Can I "swing" it?
              Posted by: "mlaf" mlaf@...
              Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:00 pm ((PDT))

          I don't know if this is an option or not but...when I was in college, I participated in a number of festival programs.  We would rehearse all day Friday, all day Saturday (I mean 2-3 hours at a time, with meal breaks) and then perform Saturday night.  I've also participated in a couple of college allumni quires that have done the same type of thing for recording - reherse several hours on Friday night, then again Saturday Morning & afternoon, and perform and/or record Saturday night.  I don't know how many performances the Choir does at Pennsic, because, although I joined the list a couple of years ago, I haven't been able to attend Pennsic.  But is that feasable, at all?  Instead of spreading rehersals throughout Pennsic, and missing a lot of different things, designate a couple of days that are simply dedicated to rehersal.  Maybe one full day during the first week, and a second full day on performance day...that way, people who want to fight, take classes, etc will have the opportunity to do both.

          Melandra



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        • Jennifer Friedman
          Personally, the rehearsing with all the cool people is the fun part for me. I probably could prepare more in advance and do a one or two-day whirlwind thing
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            Personally, the rehearsing with all the cool people is the fun part for me. I probably could prepare more in advance and do a one or two-day whirlwind thing and a performance, but it wouldn't be as fun. Believe me, I would still come to daily rehearsals even if we didn't have a performance!
             
            But we've already established that I'm a little weird.
             
            Eliane

             
            Eliane Halevy, OL
            Barony of Jararvellir, Kingdom of Northshield
            Jennifer Friedman, 4630 Mineral Point Rd., Madison, WI 53705
            (608) 238-7627, jennifer-friedman@..., www.gflower.org


            From: Michelle Faid <trinitysong@...>
            To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Wed, August 17, 2011 11:37:26 PM
            Subject: Re: [KWChoir] Digest Number 716

             

            A single or two day 'cram' might be preferable for some people, but really difficult for others. I'd be interested to hear more on that.


            "We create gravity to give weight to things
            Then things fall and things break
            And gravity sings."



            On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Maria Eskinazi <daggett42@...> wrote:
             

            Please keep discussion going. We read it and we honestly do talk about rehearsal schedules and the possibilities of doing something different.  
               SO, now that we are HOME from war and getting life back in order... I should make a few announcements...
            First - THANK YOU to each and every one of you who participated in the choir this year.  Even if you came to sing but couldn't keep it going for this year - THANK YOU.
               This year really made me feel wonderful about music again and I thank you for it.
              So I would like to announce that next year's choir will be directed by Master Robyn Solarus once again and we are HAPPY to have him back in the director's chair.  As a treat, he will have a guest director for one piece, the lovely Soprano Section leader Eliane from Northshield.  
                  It is the Choir's hopes and dreams to be able to host more workshops and musical classes next year at war and if you're interested in something - LET US KNOW.. and we will make every attempt at putting it together.
               So, now it's all left to organize for next year.  
            Thank you Robyn for volunteering!

            In service
            LADY Erlandr Nordenskald
            :)

             

            Love is enternal

            G. Scott Eskinazi 1967-2009



            From: "KWChoir@yahoogroups.com" <KWChoir@yahoogroups.com>
            To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:54 AM
            Subject: [KWChoir] Digest Number 716

            There are 5 messages in this issue.

            Topics in this digest:

            1a. Can I "swing" it?   
                From: elecviolnplar10
            1b. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
                From: Steven Mansfield
            1c. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
                From: Jo-Ann
            1d. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
                From: Michelle Faid
            1e. Re: Can I "swing" it?   
                From: mlaf


            Messages
            ________________________________________________________________________
            1a. Can I "swing" it?
                Posted by: "elecviolnplar10" elecviolnplar101@... elecviolnplar10
                Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:16 pm ((PDT))

            Hallo!

            I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances due to this dilemma.

            I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both? Can I "swing" it, as it were?

            Many happy trails.
            ~Kharis






            Messages in this topic (5)
            ________________________________________________________________________
            1b. Re: Can I "swing" it?
                Posted by: "Steven Mansfield" oroboro.steve@... dudeling2000
                Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:25 pm ((PDT))

            The short answer is: it's possible, but not without some work.

            Overall, it would require planning in advance, and making sure you did a
            good amount of preparation in advance.  At least the past two years we've
            done quite a bit of rehearsing during peace week.

            As I learned last year, though, it may mean compromising between the two.
            There are a lot of classes I'd like to take, but due to rehearsal schedules,
            I can't do.  It wasn't so bad this year, but last year I missed a good
            number of classes due to schedule conflicts.  It may simply come down to
            what you want to do more.

            On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, elecviolnplar10 <
            elecviolnplar101@...> wrote:

            > **
            >
            >
            > Hallo!
            >
            > I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I
            > started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the
            > rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of
            > a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up
            > not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances
            > due to this dilemma.
            >
            > I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get
            > into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both?
            > Can I "swing" it, as it were?
            >
            > Many happy trails.
            > ~Kharis
            >

            >



            --
            Steve Mansfield
            425-829-8729 (Cell)
            425-298-7614 (Google Voice)




            Messages in this topic (5)
            ________________________________________________________________________
            1c. Re: Can I "swing" it?
                Posted by: "Jo-Ann" JoniSyngs@... jonisyngs
                Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:35 pm ((PDT))

            We also missed out this year due to my son's Boffer Tournament schedule, sorry to say.  I'm not sure that is going to change . . . 

            For those of us who do sight-read music, is there a requisite number of rehearsals we need to attend?

            Siiri










            -----Original Message-----
            From: Steven Mansfield <oroboro.steve@...>
            To: KWChoir <KWChoir@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:25 pm
            Subject: Re: [KWChoir] Can I "swing" it?


             
               
                             
            The short answer is: it's possible, but not without some work.

            Overall, it would require planning in advance, and making sure you did a good amount of preparation in advance.  At least the past two years we've done quite a bit of rehearsing during peace week.

            As I learned last year, though, it may mean compromising between the two.  There are a lot of classes I'd like to take, but due to rehearsal schedules, I can't do.  It wasn't so bad this year, but last year I missed a good number of classes due to schedule conflicts.  It may simply come down to what you want to do more.


            On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, elecviolnplar10 <elecviolnplar101@...> wrote:


             
               
                             
            Hallo!

            I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances due to this dilemma.

            I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both? Can I "swing" it, as it were?

            Many happy trails.
            ~Kharis


               
                       

             




            --
            Steve Mansfield
            425-829-8729 (Cell)
            425-298-7614 (Google Voice)


               
                       

             





            Messages in this topic (5)
            ________________________________________________________________________
            1d. Re: Can I "swing" it?
                Posted by: "Michelle Faid" trinitysong@... trisanachandler
                Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:07 pm ((PDT))

            I can tell you from my own experience that it requires a lot of commitment.
            I wasn't able to do choir this year because the commitment it required last
            year was going to ask too much of me this time around. I can't really
            imagine choir *and *fighting, since there are battles in the middle of
            rehearsals, and with only 7-9 rehearsals to learn 5-9 pieces as a group,
            you're basically tossing away a huge portion of your readiness and
            preparation to miss even one.

            It's all very well and good to listen to the learning tracks and sight read,
            but frankly, a choir isn't a group of individuals all showing up to sing at
            the same time - that's a caroling group. Last year when Robin directed, and
            the year before with Arianna, we saw a lot of very specific directions you
            would totally miss by not attending - half the choir should swallow their
            "S" sound so we aren't hissing vipers! Say bon-bon-bon like a chicken! Ham
            up the part about the goat! The song is about Queen Elizabeth, so be
            majestic! Forte! Mezzopiano! Etcetera.

            I suppose it's a matter for the KWC directors; there's a difference between
            a caroling choir that all shows up and sings the same general things that
            everyone knows, and a choir that trains together and works on the same
            pieces and learns to blend. I was a section lead for Pennsic 39, and I ran
            into frustrations when people who attended less than half the rehearsals
            asked the same questions that had been asked previously on all of the songs.
            To me, it's a matter of respect for your fellow performers; they're
            committing two hours a day, and if a half hour of that is spent catching up
            all the people who only committed to a few days of it and are clearly
            behind, that's wasting their time.

            If you're a super sponge and you're awesome at picking things up and working
            with a choir with little preparation and you can take notes off of everyone
            else's music for directions, then go you. Honestly, I'm not that good. I
            need every day and I need to get every direction myself to understand it, or
            else I'm the cog in the machine that squeaks.

            Tegwen ferch Cydifor ap Bleddyd


            On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Steven Mansfield
            <oroboro.steve@...>wrote:

            > **
            >
            >
            > The short answer is: it's possible, but not without some work.
            >
            > Overall, it would require planning in advance, and making sure you did a
            > good amount of preparation in advance.  At least the past two years we've
            > done quite a bit of rehearsing during peace week.
            >
            > As I learned last year, though, it may mean compromising between the two.
            > There are a lot of classes I'd like to take, but due to rehearsal schedules,
            > I can't do.  It wasn't so bad this year, but last year I missed a good
            > number of classes due to schedule conflicts.  It may simply come down to
            > what you want to do more.
            >
            >
            > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, elecviolnplar10 <
            > elecviolnplar101@...> wrote:
            >
            >> **
            >>
            >>
            >> Hallo!
            >>
            >> I'm new to the Known World Choir and this was my first year at Pennsic. I
            >> started out all excited about singing with the choir and enjoyed the
            >> rehearsals I was able to make, however the timing of them got in the way of
            >> a lot I wanted to experience at Pennsic. I'm ashamed to say that I ended up
            >> not being able to follow through with all the rehearsals and performances
            >> due to this dilemma.
            >>
            >> I am truly interested in being a part of the Choir but I would like to get
            >> into fighting at some point as well. Is it possible to take part in both?
            >> Can I "swing" it, as it were?
            >>
            >> Many happy trails.
            >> ~Kharis
            >>
            >>
            >
            >
            > --
            > Steve Mansfield
            > 425-829-8729 (Cell)
            > 425-298-7614 (Google Voice)
            >

            >




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            1e. Re: Can I "swing" it?
                Posted by: "mlaf" mlaf@...
                Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:00 pm ((PDT))

            I don't know if this is an option or not but...when I was in college, I participated in a number of festival programs.  We would rehearse all day Friday, all day Saturday (I mean 2-3 hours at a time, with meal breaks) and then perform Saturday night.  I've also participated in a couple of college allumni quires that have done the same type of thing for recording - reherse several hours on Friday night, then again Saturday Morning & afternoon, and perform and/or record Saturday night.  I don't know how many performances the Choir does at Pennsic, because, although I joined the list a couple of years ago, I haven't been able to attend Pennsic.  But is that feasable, at all?  Instead of spreading rehersals throughout Pennsic, and missing a lot of different things, designate a couple of days that are simply dedicated to rehersal.  Maybe one full day during the first week, and a second full day on performance day...that way, people who want to fight, take classes, etc will have the opportunity to do both.

            Melandra



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          • Dave
            Great! This was a fun year, thanks LADY Erlandr! So, with a bit more headstart than 2 years ago, I want to open a handful of discussions about Pennsic 41 and
            Message 5 of 18 , Aug 22, 2011
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              Great! This was a fun year, thanks LADY Erlandr!

              So, with a bit more headstart than 2 years ago, I want to open a handful of discussions about Pennsic 41 and some of the concerns and suggestions I've heard recently. Bear in mind these are just discussions for now, but please feel free to chime in.

              1st topic - rehearsal schedule. Some ideas that have been floated:

              - do a festival-like schedule where we condense all of the prep into 2 or 3 intense prep days

              - move rehearsals to the morning to escape the heat and a few conflicts - Bardic Collegium for one (but maybe conflict more with battles and deal with less-warmed up voices)

              - Should the rehearsal commitment be more or less? (i.e. better prepared? Or lower the bar both in amount of pieces learned and how well learned?)

              Ok - that should open a few cans of worms :-) Ready? discuss!

              Robyn

              --- In KWChoir@yahoogroups.com, Maria Eskinazi <daggett42@...> wrote:
              >
              > Please keep discussion going. We read it and we honestly do talk about rehearsal schedules and the possibilities of doing something different.  
              >    SO, now that we are HOME from war and getting life back in order... I should make a few announcements...
              > First - THANK YOU to each and every one of you who participated in the choir this year.  Even if you came to sing but couldn't keep it going for this year - THANK YOU.
              >    This year really made me feel wonderful about music again and I thank you for it.
              >   So I would like to announce that next year's choir will be directed by Master Robyn Solarus once again and we are HAPPY to have him back in the director's chair.  As a treat, he will have a guest director for one piece, the lovely Soprano Section leader Eliane from Northshield.  
              >       It is the Choir's hopes and dreams to be able to host more workshops and musical classes next year at war and if you're interested in something - LET US KNOW.. and we will make every attempt at putting it together.
              >    So, now it's all left to organize for next year.  
              > Thank you Robyn for volunteering!
              >
              > In service
              > LADY Erlandr Nordenskald
              > :)
              >
              > Love is enternal
              > G. Scott Eskinazi 1967-2009
              >
              >
            • Deb Johnoff
              For me, 2 hr rehearsals were the right length.  As a relatively new choral singer, I had to concentrate intensely and I was ready for a break after 2 hrs.
              Message 6 of 18 , Aug 22, 2011
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                For me, 2 hr rehearsals were the right length.  As a relatively new choral singer, I had to concentrate intensely and I was ready for a break after 2 hrs. Hopefully before next time, I will practice more ahead of time (the music and midi files available ahead of time are crucial, thanks).  I like the practices spread throughtout the week, so it can soak in better. Personally (due to Bardic Collegium) I'd like to see choral scoot half hour to 1 hr earlier in the afternoon.  Thanks for the opportunity this year and I hope to be able to get to Pennsic and choir next year.
                Hanne Abendschein

                From: Dave <dsrubin2004@...>
                To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:49 PM
                Subject: [KWChoir] Pennsic 41 :-)

                 
                Great! This was a fun year, thanks LADY Erlandr!

                So, with a bit more headstart than 2 years ago, I want to open a handful of discussions about Pennsic 41 and some of the concerns and suggestions I've heard recently. Bear in mind these are just discussions for now, but please feel free to chime in.

                1st topic - rehearsal schedule. Some ideas that have been floated:

                - do a festival-like schedule where we condense all of the prep into 2 or 3 intense prep days

                - move rehearsals to the morning to escape the heat and a few conflicts - Bardic Collegium for one (but maybe conflict more with battles and deal with less-warmed up voices)

                - Should the rehearsal commitment be more or less? (i.e. better prepared? Or lower the bar both in amount of pieces learned and how well learned?)

                Ok - that should open a few cans of worms :-) Ready? discuss!

                Robyn


              • Elizabeth Dowling
                Whatever happens, I really really hope that next year will be better for my family than the last two, and that I will actually be able to attend rehearsals and
                Message 7 of 18 , Aug 22, 2011
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                  Whatever happens, I really really hope that next year will be better for
                  my family than the last two, and that I will actually be able to attend
                  rehearsals and perform. I've missed everybody.

                  Asking questions is a great idea: polling past members might help to
                  find out how many are also fighters, etc., and when the best time to
                  schedule rehearsals is.

                  Heat is a factor, but so is waking up, etc. A&S used to be close to most
                  camps; now that former parking areas have become camping areas and
                  Pennsic is very spread out, A&S is not always close, which not only
                  affects early rehearsals, but also late in the afternoon as returning to
                  camp to make dinner. I know that I "hang out" in the A&S area, but I
                  have trouble getting a bus "home." But the problem can be as bad in the
                  morning. (Again, my family needs to ride; this wouldn't affect those who
                  don't mind long walks morning or night.)

                  People usually know whether or not they know material; extra rehearsals
                  are always helpful for those who are lost or don't read music, but
                  rehearsals also help people listen and blend, add ornaments, sing in
                  tune. If a part is lost, then sectionals do help. If people have other
                  places they need to be, then I guess they could skip a rehearsal or so,
                  but if there are only 3 rehearsals it might be difficult to do. Some
                  people can't sing for hours on end, and you want to exercise amateur
                  voices gently, especially in the heat.

                  I wouldn't lower the bar (although if a piece is nice, it doesn't matter
                  if it is simple). It's nice to have some challenges. People come from
                  all over the Known World; it is nice to look forward to a challenge at
                  Pennsic, although I haven't had much luck with recruiting people in the
                  past because some are more afraid of pieces that are difficult to sing
                  than being hit hard with rattan sticks. Speaking of which, how about
                  some Antiphonal pieces? The group is large enough. If too many high
                  parts, then pick music that goes with that.

                  This is just my own take... and take it with a grain of salt, because,
                  it depends of my family's health if I can attend Pennsic at all. I was
                  very grateful for the other music courses such as conducting (because it
                  gave me an opportunity to see a few people).
                  Love to everybody,
                  Elizabeth of Gwyntarian

                  Dave wrote:
                  >
                  > Great! This was a fun year, thanks LADY Erlandr!
                  >
                  > So, with a bit more headstart than 2 years ago, I want to open a
                  > handful of discussions about Pennsic 41 and some of the concerns and
                  > suggestions I've heard recently. Bear in mind these are just
                  > discussions for now, but please feel free to chime in.
                  >
                  > 1st topic - rehearsal schedule. Some ideas that have been floated:
                  >
                  > - do a festival-like schedule where we condense all of the prep into 2
                  > or 3 intense prep days
                  >
                  > - move rehearsals to the morning to escape the heat and a few
                  > conflicts - Bardic Collegium for one (but maybe conflict more with
                  > battles and deal with less-warmed up voices)
                  >
                  > - Should the rehearsal commitment be more or less? (i.e. better
                  > prepared? Or lower the bar both in amount of pieces learned and how
                  > well learned?)
                  >
                  > Ok - that should open a few cans of worms :-) Ready? discuss!
                  >
                  > Robyn
                  >
                  > --- In KWChoir@yahoogroups.com <mailto:KWChoir%40yahoogroups.com>,
                  > Maria Eskinazi <daggett42@...> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Please keep discussion going. We read it and we honestly do talk
                  > about rehearsal schedules and the possibilities of doing something
                  > different.
                  > > SO, now that we are HOME from war and getting life back in order...
                  > I should make a few announcements...
                  > > First - THANK YOU to each and every one of you who participated in
                  > the choir this year. Even if you came to sing but couldn't keep it
                  > going for this year - THANK YOU.
                  > > This year really made me feel wonderful about music again and I
                  > thank you for it.
                  > > So I would like to announce that next year's choir will be
                  > directed by Master Robyn Solarus once again and we are HAPPY to have
                  > him back in the director's chair. As a treat, he will have a guest
                  > director for one piece, the lovely Soprano Section leader Eliane from
                  > Northshield.
                  > > It is the Choir's hopes and dreams to be able to host more
                  > workshops and musical classes next year at war and if you're
                  > interested in something - LET US KNOW.. and we will make every attempt
                  > at putting it together.
                  > > So, now it's all left to organize for next year.
                  > > Thank you Robyn for volunteering!
                  > >
                  > > In service
                  > > LADY Erlandr Nordenskald
                  > > :)
                  > >
                  > > Love is enternal
                  > > G. Scott Eskinazi 1967-2009
                  > >
                  > >
                  >
                  >
                • Steven Mansfield
                  I would much prefer the 2-hours a day as we ve been doing. Too much longer in a session and my voice would probably start to give out. I wouldn t cry
                  Message 8 of 18 , Aug 22, 2011
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                    I would much prefer the 2-hours a day as we've been doing.  Too much longer in a session and my voice would probably start to give out.  I wouldn't cry particularly much were we to move to morning.  Not *too* early, but before it gets sinfully hot.  Too cool would be bad on people's voices, too hot and, well, we're all so low energy it can be hard to focus.  As for "warmed up voices", I think a better focus on warmups at the start of rehearsal would be beneficial.  To compare the last two years, I felt my voice was more ready to rehearse with your warmups two years ago than this year.

                    I personally like the "aggressive" song list.  The challenge is in and of itself rewarding.  So long as we've seen the past two years that we limit the really challenging stuff to one or two pieces, then the song list size may be tricky, but we've shown the past two years it's doable.  I'd say the only hiccup that way this year was the songs which weren't available in advance at all (the madrigal and Bird).  I kind of wish we'd just decreed from the outset that Ave Verum Corpus had just been stated from the outset as "in."  A good chunk of the choir didn't rehearse it until it had already been worked on for 2 or 3 days by the rest of us.

                    On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Dave <dsrubin2004@...> wrote:
                     

                    Great! This was a fun year, thanks LADY Erlandr!

                    So, with a bit more headstart than 2 years ago, I want to open a handful of discussions about Pennsic 41 and some of the concerns and suggestions I've heard recently. Bear in mind these are just discussions for now, but please feel free to chime in. 

                    1st topic - rehearsal schedule. Some ideas that have been floated:

                    - do a festival-like schedule where we condense all of the prep into 2 or 3 intense prep days

                    - move rehearsals to the morning to escape the heat and a few conflicts - Bardic Collegium for one (but maybe conflict more with battles and deal with less-warmed up voices)

                    - Should the rehearsal commitment be more or less? (i.e. better prepared? Or lower the bar both in amount of pieces learned and how well learned?)

                    Ok - that should open a few cans of worms :-) Ready? discuss!

                    Robyn

                    --- In KWChoir@yahoogroups.com, Maria Eskinazi <daggett42@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Please keep discussion going. We read it and we honestly do talk about rehearsal schedules and the possibilities of doing something different.  
                    >    SO, now that we are HOME from war and getting life back in order... I should make a few announcements...
                    > First - THANK YOU to each and every one of you who participated in the choir this year.  Even if you came to sing but couldn&#39;t keep it going for this year - THANK YOU.
                    >    This year really made me feel wonderful about music again and I thank you for it.
                    >   So I would like to announce that next year&#39;s choir will be directed by Master Robyn Solarus once again and we are HAPPY to have him back in the director&#39;s chair.  As a treat, he will have a guest director for one piece, the lovely Soprano Section leader Eliane from Northshield.  
                    >       It is the Choir&#39;s hopes and dreams to be able to host more workshops and musical classes next year at war and if you&#39;re interested in something - LET US KNOW.. and we will make every attempt at putting it together.
                    >    So, now it&#39;s all left to organize for next year.  
                    > Thank you Robyn for volunteering!
                    >
                    > In service
                    > LADY Erlandr Nordenskald
                    > :)
                    >
                    > Love is enternal
                    > G. Scott Eskinazi 1967-2009
                    >
                    >




                    --
                    Steve Mansfield
                    425-829-8729 (Cell)
                    425-298-7614 (Google Voice)

                  • Olivia
                    I had forgotten how great it is to sing with a group. Thank you to everyone reminding me how much enjoyment comes from a great group of singers! To the topic
                    Message 9 of 18 , Aug 25, 2011
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                      I had forgotten how great it is to sing with a group. Thank you to everyone reminding me how much enjoyment comes from a great group of singers!

                      To the topic of rehearsals, I agree with what previous posts have said that condensing rehearsals could be very taxing on a voice that is not trained for that kind of use. With schedule, I personally am very flexible. My only concern with early rehearsals is that an untrained voice that is not warm could be seriously damaged.

                      On another note, I think if it's possible to have the mp3's with the words *and* music, it would also make rehearsals run more smoothly as there would be no question of what words go where.

                      -Olivia


                      --- In KWChoir@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dsrubin2004@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Great! This was a fun year, thanks LADY Erlandr!
                      >
                      > So, with a bit more headstart than 2 years ago, I want to open a handful of discussions about Pennsic 41 and some of the concerns and suggestions I've heard recently. Bear in mind these are just discussions for now, but please feel free to chime in.
                      >
                      > 1st topic - rehearsal schedule. Some ideas that have been floated:
                      >
                      > - do a festival-like schedule where we condense all of the prep into 2 or 3 intense prep days
                      >
                      > - move rehearsals to the morning to escape the heat and a few conflicts - Bardic Collegium for one (but maybe conflict more with battles and deal with less-warmed up voices)
                      >
                      > - Should the rehearsal commitment be more or less? (i.e. better prepared? Or lower the bar both in amount of pieces learned and how well learned?)
                      >
                      > Ok - that should open a few cans of worms :-) Ready? discuss!
                      >
                      > Robyn
                    • Susan Stoltze
                      I agree with Olivia.  I actually found this year s schedule to work best for me - late enough to begin cooling down, ending early enough to hie myself and
                      Message 10 of 18 , Aug 25, 2011
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                        I agree with Olivia.  I actually found this year's schedule to work best for me - late enough to begin cooling down, ending early enough to hie myself and Seathan back to camp for supper.  I also agree that practicing more than 2 hours will strain voices - professionally trained or not.  The music and words on an mp3 would be invaluable.
                         
                        Dumb question - has there ever been rehearsals scheduled for early evening?
                         
                        - Susanna Merrybegot
                         

                        --- On Thu, 8/25/11, Olivia <olivia.deborough@...> wrote:

                        From: Olivia <olivia.deborough@...>
                        Subject: [KWChoir] Re: Pennsic 41 :-)
                        To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
                        Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 8:26 PM

                         
                        I had forgotten how great it is to sing with a group. Thank you to everyone reminding me how much enjoyment comes from a great group of singers!

                        To the topic of rehearsals, I agree with what previous posts have said that condensing rehearsals could be very taxing on a voice that is not trained for that kind of use. With schedule, I personally am very flexible. My only concern with early rehearsals is that an untrained voice that is not warm could be seriously damaged.

                        On another note, I think if it's possible to have the mp3's with the words *and* music, it would also make rehearsals run more smoothly as there would be no question of what words go where.

                        -Olivia

                        --- In KWChoir@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dsrubin2004@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Great! This was a fun year, thanks LADY Erlandr!
                        >
                        > So, with a bit more headstart than 2 years ago, I want to open a handful of discussions about Pennsic 41 and some of the concerns and suggestions I've heard recently. Bear in mind these are just discussions for now, but please feel free to chime in.
                        >
                        > 1st topic - rehearsal schedule. Some ideas that have been floated:
                        >
                        > - do a festival-like schedule where we condense all of the prep into 2 or 3 intense prep days
                        >
                        > - move rehearsals to the morning to escape the heat and a few conflicts - Bardic Collegium for one (but maybe conflict more with battles and deal with less-warmed up voices)
                        >
                        > - Should the rehearsal commitment be more or less? (i.e. better prepared? Or lower the bar both in amount of pieces learned and how well learned?)
                        >
                        > Ok - that should open a few cans of worms :-) Ready? discuss!
                        >
                        > Robyn

                      • Margrett Norwoode
                        I agree that having the words on the music files makes things much easier for me. The files that Master Robyn did last year helped me do more prePennsic prep.
                        Message 11 of 18 , Aug 25, 2011
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                          I agree that having the words on the music files makes things much easier for me. The files that Master Robyn did last year helped me do more prePennsic prep. I don't do as well with just midis, and do even worse when the midis are computer tones as opposed to piano tones. Without words, it is very hard for me to burn new songs to my brain's hard drive.

                          Margrett



                          From: Olivia <olivia.deborough@...>
                          To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 8:26:34 PM
                          Subject: [KWChoir] Re: Pennsic 41 :-)

                           

                          I had forgotten how great it is to sing with a group. Thank you to everyone reminding me how much enjoyment comes from a great group of singers!

                          To the topic of rehearsals, I agree with what previous posts have said that condensing rehearsals could be very taxing on a voice that is not trained for that kind of use. With schedule, I personally am very flexible. My only concern with early rehearsals is that an untrained voice that is not warm could be seriously damaged.

                          On another note, I think if it's possible to have the mp3's with the words *and* music, it would also make rehearsals run more smoothly as there would be no question of what words go where.

                          -Olivia


                        • annoney@aol.com
                          Using NoteWothy, I can insert lyrics so you can see when to sing what words as the music plays. Some people learn to read music watching the note change
                          Message 12 of 18 , Aug 26, 2011
                          Using NoteWothy, I can insert lyrics so you can see when to sing what words as the music plays.  Some people learn to read music watching the note change color as it plays.  Did I mention that there is a free player you can download?  http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/composer/download.htm
                           
                          I am enclosing 2 files, one is all parts same volume and the other has the alto louder than the others.  Try it out. I have instructions on how to download the viewer written for non-computer users.
                           
                          Theresa
                        • Jo-Ann
                          My iPad won t let me download the file, but I bet my computer will. Ultimately the director has the final word and is gracious enough to ask for input from the
                          Message 13 of 18 , Aug 26, 2011
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                            My iPad won't let me download the file, but I bet my computer will.

                            Ultimately the director has the final word and is gracious enough to
                            ask for input from the membership, so thank you very much. Please do
                            not worry about taxing voices with long or early rehearsals as proper
                            warmups prevent wear. I'm sure the director will guide us on vocal
                            management.

                            My suggestions is holding fewer rehearsals, varying the time of day
                            rehearsals are offered, and if the director or someone else is willing
                            to take upon themselves the enormous task of providing the choir with
                            mp3s with notes, words and a pronunciation guide in advance, that will
                            solve a myriad of problems.

                            I was unable to participate in the choir this year due to my son's
                            fight schedule. Hopefully a different schedule will ensure my ability
                            to join you fine folks in future Pennsic KWC's.

                            One more suggestion, which I hope isn't offensive to some, is that an
                            electronic keyboard be used in the early rehearsals for efficient note
                            learning. It provides the support and allows multiple parts to be
                            played at the same time. If vendors can use their phones to call in
                            our charges, certainly we can bend the rule in honor of comfort for our
                            singers who don't have the ability to read music well at sight.

                            Humbly submitted,
                            Siiri Toivosdottir
                            Jo-Ann Sheffer
                            Director of Music
                            Detroit Country Day Junior School
                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: annoney <annoney@...>
                            To: KWChoir <KWChoir@yahoogroups.com>
                            Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2011 8:47 am
                            Subject: [KWChoir] Re: Pennsic 41 :-) [2 Attachments]

                              [Attachment(s) from annoney@...
                            included below]
                            Using NoteWothy, I can insert lyrics so you can see when to sing what
                            words as the music plays.  Some people learn to read music watching the
                            note change color as it plays.  Did I mention that there is a free
                            player you can download? 
                            http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/composer/download.htm
                             
                            I am enclosing 2 files, one is all parts same volume and the other has
                            the alto louder than the others.  Try it out. I have instructions on
                            how to download the viewer written for non-computer users.
                             
                            Theresa
                          • Susan Kell
                            Not so dumb to me! I suspect the performance pavillion would not be available in early evening, due to preparations for later performances, but perhaps there
                            Message 14 of 18 , Aug 26, 2011
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                              Not so dumb to me! I suspect the performance pavillion would not be available in early evening, due to preparations for later performances, but perhaps there is another location that could be used? If enough schedules permit, early evenings could be considered.
                              -- Ygraine, who would *love* to sing with the choir, but has waaaay too many hats already!
                               
                              -----Original Message-----
                              From: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KWChoir@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Susan Stoltze
                              Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:28 PM
                              To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: Re: [KWChoir] Re: Pennsic 41 :-)


                               (snip) 
                              Dumb question - has there ever been rehearsals scheduled for early evening?
                               
                              - Susanna Merrybegot
                               
                               

                            • Karen Kasper
                              Ygraine has pinpointed the issue with having rehearsals in the evening for such a large group - pretty much every other large venue (the amphitheatre and the
                              Message 15 of 18 , Aug 26, 2011
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                                Ygraine has pinpointed the issue with having rehearsals in the evening for such a large group - pretty much every other large venue (the amphitheatre and the barn come to mind) is already booked for other things, like performances, courts, or dancing, every evening from the middle Saturday onward.  I doubt if even the bigger royal camps have enough sheltered space (including seating) for the full choir, which ranges in size from 40-70 people. 

                                Years ago we had rehearsals in a largish Grim's tent on the battlefield, but it was not an experience I'd care to repeat. There was a lot of dust, noise and distractions, not to mention they only gave us haybales for "chairs!"

                                Keep the suggestions coming, though, folks!

                                Arianna of Wynthrope
                                 


                                From: Susan Kell <susan@...>
                                To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:36 AM
                                Subject: RE: [KWChoir] Re: Pennsic 41 :-)

                                 
                                
                                Not so dumb to me! I suspect the performance pavillion would not be available in early evening, due to preparations for later performances, but perhaps there is another location that could be used? If enough schedules permit, early evenings could be considered.
                                -- Ygraine, who would *love* to sing with the choir, but has waaaay too many hats already!
                                 
                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KWChoir@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Susan Stoltze
                                Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:28 PM
                                To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: Re: [KWChoir] Re: Pennsic 41 :-)

                                 (snip) 
                                Dumb question - has there ever been rehearsals scheduled for early evening?
                                 
                                - Susanna Merrybegot
                                 
                                 


                              • Michelle Faid
                                Actually, in my experience, the absolutely rigid times are necessary. The *two *of nine times that we changed time for the recording and the evening sing at
                                Message 16 of 18 , Aug 26, 2011
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                                  Actually, in my experience, the absolutely rigid times are necessary. The two of nine times that we changed time for the recording and the evening sing at the food court were both disastrous; no one had an internal clock for it, people mislaid the information of when it was, stragglers came in for an entire hour to the recording, thinking it was X time instead of Y. Maybe it would be very different if all the rehearsals were at staggered times, but in my experience, the only hope we had of a mostly full rehearsal was the same time every day.

                                  A keyboard for some note learning is not a bad idea, but I would use it as it has been used, judiciously. The bulk of note learning is right there to be had in the learning tracks, which are so very helpful. Ideally, in my hope and wish, we'd all utilize the teaching tool right there.

                                  There are some who believe rehearsals are the time to learn the material from scratch, and some who believe that they're the time to have it in mind to practice with a group. I'm very much in the latter camp. The more scratch learning we have to do on the spot, the less time we have to clean it up and really work on dynamics and blending.


                                  "We create gravity to give weight to things
                                  Then things fall and things break
                                  And gravity sings."



                                  On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Karen Kasper <arianna_wyn@...> wrote:
                                   

                                  Ygraine has pinpointed the issue with having rehearsals in the evening for such a large group - pretty much every other large venue (the amphitheatre and the barn come to mind) is already booked for other things, like performances, courts, or dancing, every evening from the middle Saturday onward.  I doubt if even the bigger royal camps have enough sheltered space (including seating) for the full choir, which ranges in size from 40-70 people. 

                                  Years ago we had rehearsals in a largish Grim's tent on the battlefield, but it was not an experience I'd care to repeat. There was a lot of dust, noise and distractions, not to mention they only gave us haybales for "chairs!"

                                  Keep the suggestions coming, though, folks!

                                  Arianna of Wynthrope
                                   


                                  From: Susan Kell <susan@...>
                                  To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:36 AM
                                  Subject: RE: [KWChoir] Re: Pennsic 41 :-)

                                   
                                  
                                  Not so dumb to me! I suspect the performance pavillion would not be available in early evening, due to preparations for later performances, but perhaps there is another location that could be used? If enough schedules permit, early evenings could be considered.
                                  -- Ygraine, who would *love* to sing with the choir, but has waaaay too many hats already!
                                   
                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KWChoir@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Susan Stoltze
                                  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:28 PM
                                  To: KWChoir@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: Re: [KWChoir] Re: Pennsic 41 :-)

                                   (snip) 
                                  Dumb question - has there ever been rehearsals scheduled for early evening?
                                   
                                  - Susanna Merrybegot
                                   
                                   



                                • Rose
                                  Greetings! I was hoping to particpate this year, but was unable to commit to all the scheduled rehersals. There s also no affordable internet where I live.
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                                    Greetings!

                                    I was hoping to particpate this year, but was unable to commit to all the scheduled rehersals. There's also no affordable internet where I live. It is either dail-up or satelite. I digress.

                                    It would be great if the music were up very early in the year. Folks like me would have more time to find a family member willing to let us take over their computers that way.

                                    Having the music earlier would also mean that local chorals would be able to have bi-weekly or monthly practices before hand to be familiar with the music.

                                    Just my two cents...and really hoping to get to participate for Pennsic 42.

                                    Elizabeth Thorne (Rose)
                                  • Jo-Ann
                                    Agreed. If it is possible to post music resources earlier, then music learning would be accomplished in fewer rehearsals. Those who were unable to prepare or
                                    Message 18 of 18 , Aug 30, 2011
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                                      Agreed.  If it is possible to post music resources earlier, then music learning would be accomplished in fewer rehearsals.  Those who were unable to prepare or joined late in the game would benefit from the preparedness of others, and the focus would be more on blending.  Fewer folks dropping out, larger choir, bonus.

                                      That makes 4 cents for me....

                                      Siiri




                                      -----Original Message-----
                                      From: Rose <thorneskeep1@...>
                                      To: KWChoir <KWChoir@yahoogroups.com>
                                      Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:18 pm
                                      Subject: [KWChoir] Re: Pennsic 41 :-)

                                       
                                      Greetings!

                                      I was hoping to particpate this year, but was unable to commit to all the scheduled rehersals. There's also no affordable internet where I live. It is either dail-up or satelite. I digress.

                                      It would be great if the music were up very early in the year. Folks like me would have more time to find a family member willing to let us take over their computers that way.

                                      Having the music earlier would also mean that local chorals would be able to have bi-weekly or monthly practices before hand to be familiar with the music.

                                      Just my two cents...and really hoping to get to participate for Pennsic 42.

                                      Elizabeth Thorne (Rose)

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