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  • Gerald Ali.
    the retiring boss tried to suppress this video the attorney for grant probably considers it a waist of time to request the video Hi Charles, you say this
    Message 1 of 4 , Aug 23, 2009
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      the " retiring " boss tried to suppress this video the attorney for grant probably considers it a waist of time to request the video
      Hi Charles, you say ''this video'', is there a copy on the internet, is there any link to it ?
       
      Any contribution can help change.
      They are implying that a fight took place, and trying to fool people ''by association'' but it's only words, so the words need taking away, to clear the view.
      The autopsy would have proven Oscar wasn't in any fight, so will forensic evidence from clothing/footwear, and also the others they detained, if this is cleared, they have a hole in their argument.
      As I say, it's by 'association''.
       
      Gerald.
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      ----- Original Message -----
       
      Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:06 PM
      Subject: Re: [Justice4Oscar_GRANT] video

      i think it was a fight on a train
      it was not with oscar
      and the people he was with

      the " retiring " boss tried to suppress this video
      the attorney for grant probably considers it a waist of time to request the video

      hay we got a report of people fighting on the train  
      we got some people in hip hop gear it must be them

      the police have attacked the youth many times

      us and the police
      in the same area
      is a hostile environment

      --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Gerald Ali. <> wrote:

      From: Gerald Ali. <GERALD.ALI@...>
      Subject: [Justice4Oscar_GRANT] Re:[Fwd: Oscar Grant report out and it's righteous!!]
      To: editor@..., Justice4Oscar_GRANT@yahoogroups.com, Iolmisha@...
      Cc: "USblackantiwaR" <blackantiwar@yahoogroups.com>
      Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 7:20 AM

       

      CONSIDER  ----
       
      OAKLAND ? BART police responding Jan 1. to a fight on a train headed to the Fruitvale station ? an incident that ended when Oscar Grant was shot in the
      back while lying facedown on the platform ? badly botched the call, according to a report from a law firm experienced in investigating police
      conduct.
       
      The question that puzzles ----to a fight on a train headed to the Fruitvale station ?
       
      If so many people took out cameras to film the police, where are the photos/videos of the ''fight'' ?
      They seem to be missing, was there a 'fight'' ?
      Where are the witnesses and their statements ?
       
      Quote  ---''''The report from Meyers Nave in Oakland says officers responding to the station failed to follow recommended procedures and failed to work as a
      team, reducing their effectiveness by working independently while also increasing their chances of being assaulted, and had lapses in tactical
      communication and leadership.' ''
       
      Simple enough answer, if there was no 'fight'', as they would have been looking around for one, or something else to occupy their time.
      This above ask's the question ''was there a fight'' ?
      It also can be construed as also answering the question, in the negative.
      And as they split up, they had already realised they need not be together, as there was no fight to deal with.
       
      Nothing has appeared yet verifying that a 'fight took place'' where are the witnesses to it ?
       
      The  --''quote from M.Nave ----- ''while also increasing their chances of being assaulted'', -- is simply prejudicial and is after the fact.
      The rest of it, the full quote, is actual.
       
      G.A.
       
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      Iolmisha@cs. com
      6.
      [Fwd: Oscar Grant report out and it's righteous!!] From: SF Bay View

      [Fwd: Oscar Grant report out and it's righteous!!]

      Posted by: "SF Bay View" editor@sfbayview. com

      Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:15 pm (PDT)

      -------- Original Message --------
      Subject: Oscar Grant report out and it's righteous!!
      Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:52:41 -0700
      From: mary moore <justice3@sonic. net>
      To: Police Abuse group #2 J to O <justice3@sonic. net>

      To all: I think we'll be hearing a lot more about this report that was just
      released yesterday and put the spotlight directly on the police where it
      certainly belongs. Yayyyyy! Once in a while justice is served. If anyone
      comes across good articles about this please send them on. MM

      BART police badly botched call that led to Oscar Grant killing, report finds
      By Kristin Bender Bay Area News Group Posted: 08/18/2009

      OAKLAND ? BART police responding Jan 1. to a fight on a train headed to the
      Fruitvale station ? an incident that ended when Oscar Grant was shot in the
      back while lying facedown on the platform ? badly botched the call,
      according to a report from a law firm experienced in investigating police
      conduct.

      The report from Meyers Nave in Oakland says officers responding to the
      station failed to follow recommended procedures and failed to work as a
      team, reducing their effectiveness by working independently while also
      increasing their chances of being assaulted, and had lapses in tactical
      communication and leadership.

      Former BART police officer Johannes Mehserle is charged with murder in the
      killing of Grant, a 22-year-old Hayward resident. The killing was captured
      by at least half a dozen cell phone and video cameras and sparked immediate
      outrage in the community.

      BART received two reports from the law firm it hired to conduct an
      independent internal affairs investigation but only released one publicly
      Tuesday. The first report contains extensive information regarding personnel
      matters, which are confidential and cannot be released under state law,
      according to a BART news release.

      "These two reports are thorough, comprehensive and include serious and
      substantive recommendations for changes needed to improve policing at BART,"
      said BART General Manager Dorothy Dugger in a statement. "We are reviewing
      the reports and their
      recommendations carefully and are moving forward through our internal
      process to consider and act on the recommendations as swiftly as possible.
      In fact, changes in some key areas are already under way."

      The report says BART needs to update its policy manual, which in some areas
      has not been updated for more than 30 years, start more strenuous
      use-of-force reporting requirements and investigations, give officers
      additional Taser training, and improve communications and leadership during
      incidents.
       
       
       
       
       

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