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Re: [India-Force] National Agenda for Muslims Development

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  • Anuj Jain - BFI
    Very well said Jadhav. Why do we have to talk about one particular community ?? Look at the condition of people in states like Bihar, Orissa, W Bengal, UP etc.
    Message 1 of 3 , Jun 30, 2009
      Very well said Jadhav.
       
      Why do we have to talk about one particular community ??
       
      Look at the condition of people in states like Bihar, Orissa, W Bengal,
      UP etc. 80% of them live on a daily average wage of less than Rs 20/day.
      So why do we have to mention Muslims in particular ??
       
      If someone really cares about India, they should talk about uniting people
      rather than dividing them on the basis of their caste and religion.
       
      Thrashing one particular community like Bania's or sympathizing with Muslims
      is not going to do any good but will spread hatred among people.
       
      This dirty caste politics is the bread and butter of our politicians. So let it be
      and don’t try to spread it within the social group like ours.
       
       
       

      Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:45 PM
      Subject: Re: [India-Force] National Agenda for Muslims Development

      Poverty does not have any religion. There must not be any reservation based on Religion or caste but based on economic poverty level.
       
      Another misnomer is using word minority tomean Muslims.
       
      What is definition of Minority and by this definition Jains, Boudh, Christians, Sikh, Bahais etc all will have to be classified as Minorities and it will be opening can of worms.
       
      There should be affirmative actions for poor and not reservation. The root cause of poverty to be tackled. The root cause is having large number of children in a family, family planning, not sending children to school, these .
       
      Madarsa and Gurukul education will not take forward any one. Modern education that will provide international class of education and thereby job opportunities is a must.
       
      Jairaj Yadav


      From: Ravinder Singh <progressindia008@ yahoo.com>
      To: IndianJustice@ yahoogroups. com; India-Force@ yahoogroups. com; indianthinkers@ yahoogroups. com; voiceofindiagroup@ yahoogroups. co.in; groundroots@ yahoogroups. com; PWAP@yahoogroups. com; Branded_Indian@ yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:19:34 PM
      Subject: [India-Force] National Agenda for Muslims Development

      National Agenda for Muslims Development
                                                                             
      Respected Dr. Singh

      Widening the jobs and educational opportunities to the millions of its citizens in a cost effective manner should be the national priority for India in the new millennium. Muslims constitute a large segment of those Indians who continue to suffer due to lack of proper education. The literacy levels amongst the Muslim are the lowest, as has been authenticated by Sachar Panel. Thus they have a long way to go before they can catch up with the rest of the country.

      Due to the educational backwardness Muslims are not able to participate in the economic development. In jobs many times they face discrimination, which has led to their negligible presence in Government services, even at the lowest levels, where education does not matter. With this social handicap, they can look for any respectable level of participation only with effective instruments of support by the Government. Removal of religion based discriminatory Clause 3 under Artcle 341 of the Constituiton, creating a Separate Subgroup within the OBC reservation and launch of a Special Component Plan for Muslims of a reasonable size of Rs. 25,000 crores annually, seems logical and absolutely necessary steps.

      In the changing dynamics of world order and the emergence of knowledge societies, where the emergence of private sector in playing an important role in education, jobs and new enterprises, the importance of quality education is further enhanced. Thus providing quality education to 30 million Muslims to bring them into national mainstream is a major challenge for the Government.  

      In view of the increasing marginalisation of Muslims in social and economic spheres over a period of time, the feeling is growing that Muslim youths may loose faith in the system and about their future. Thus, there is urgent need for attention by the Government, intellegentia and the political system to devise suitable measures to address their issues and grievances, and more importantly take effective steps to ensure their participation in the mainstream education and social and economic development.

      The question of social opportunity and public policy needs to be answered keeping in view the poor economic development of the community. If fair representation in jobs, education and resources allocation is ensured, it will have strong cascading effects on the development of the community. Keeping in view the above dynamics and based on the wide spread consultations among the community leaders; and the discussions held at the India Islamic Centre, New Delhi on the occiaison of Felicitation of Muslim Minsters and newely elect MPs on 9th June, 09, the following recommendations have emerged:

      1. No Reservation but Correction of the religion based discriminatory Clause (3) under Article 341 of the Constitution, which was imposed by a Presidential Order 1950. The existence of this Clause contradicts the secular character of our constitution, which is mentioned in the Preamble of the Constitutuion and guarnteed under Artcle 14, 15 and 16 of the Constitution “that no discrimination will be made to its citizens based on gender, caste, religion etc.” And yet Muslims and Christens face religion based discrimination under this infamous Presidential Order 1950.

      2. No Reservation but Fair Share under the OBC quota, wherein based on the Mandal Commmission recommendations, Muslims OBC castes constitute one third (8.4%) of the 27%. Muslims, like Hindus MBCs, have also not got their share in OBC reservation, as few powerful castes take away the chunk of the OBC quota, say Yadavs in Northern India . Therefore based on the South pattern of Kerala, Tamilnadu, Karnataka and AP, Advanced OBCs, MBCs and Muslim OBCs may be given Quota within Quota, as per their share. This will be in total conformity with the spirit of reservation, where all get Justice, a Just and a Fair Share.

      3. No Reservation but Affirmative Actions for their effective participation in the national mainstream by accessing education and economic opportunities through a set of Affirmative Actions.  Through Special Component Plan of Rs. 25,000 crores, an annual budget of Rs. 15,000 crores may be created for Modernisation of the Madarsa Educational Network and for opening new educational institutions for Muslims under 85:15 ratio, wherein 85% grant is by GOI and 15% by the host. Another Budget of Rs. 10,000 crores to be created for their large scale skills development programs, creation of small enterprises and other economic opportunities.

      4. No Reservation but Equitable Distribution under the spendings by all economic ministries of the Central Government. The apppoitnment of a Monitoring Officer in each ministry or mandating the Ministry of Minority Affairs to ask for status report on quarterly basis of the adherence to the 15% spendings for minorities (10% exclusively for Muslims) will serve the purpose.

      5. Safety, Security and Sensitivity towards minorities. Suitable law may be passed by the Parliament for the protection of minorities by covering them under the Criminal Act, on par with the SC/ST Criminal Act. This will ensure that harassment and profiling of minorities is not done. And in cases of riots, blasts and terrorist activities, even before the preliminary investigations are done, some Muslim names are flashed in media, which not only affects the investigations, but create very negative perception about Muslims in the society. Similalry, in cases of riots, Strict Punishment to those responsible and Dettering Compensation to the victims, (Rs. 25 lacs and jobs to the dependents of the victims), will stop any riots in future.

      We believe that if these measures are taken by the UPA Government, then Muslims will be able to effectively participate in the national mainstream and contribute to the economic progress and double digit growth of the nation.

      Thanking you and with regards

      (M J Khan)

       



    • Jai Raj Yadav
      Anuj I am Yadav and not Jadhav Yes lot much hate politics is going on.  People do take pride in abusing their  religion and praising Muslims and Christians
      Message 2 of 3 , Jul 1, 2009
        Anuj
         
        I am Yadav and not Jadhav
         
        Yes lot much hate politics is going on.  People do take pride in abusing their  religion and praising Muslims and Christians due to their own personal compulsions.
         
        Thisway they are neitheir helping first nor second group.
         
        Those who have gone out of Hindu religion may please spare  Hindus and those who are pro others may please spare Hindus and be full time what they like and see the fun whether they will be able to open their mouth against Christianity or Islam , whichever they  choose to join , after joining them
         
        Jairaj Yadav
         

         


        From: Anuj Jain - BFI <anuj@...>
        To: India-Force@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:35:39 AM
        Subject: Re: [India-Force] National Agenda for Muslims Development

        Very well said Jadhav.
         
        Why do we have to talk about one particular community ??
         
        Look at the condition of people in states like Bihar, Orissa, W Bengal,
        UP etc. 80% of them live on a daily average wage of less than Rs 20/day.
        So why do we have to mention Muslims in particular ??
         
        If someone really cares about India, they should talk about uniting people
        rather than dividing them on the basis of their caste and religion.
         
        Thrashing one particular community like Bania's or sympathizing with Muslims
        is not going to do any good but will spread hatred among people.
         
        This dirty caste politics is the bread and butter of our politicians. So let it be
        and don’t try to spread it within the social group like ours.
         
         
         

        Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:45 PM
        Subject: Re: [India-Force] National Agenda for Muslims Development

        Poverty does not have any religion. There must not be any reservation based on Religion or caste but based on economic poverty level.
         
        Another misnomer is using word minority tomean Muslims.
         
        What is definition of Minority and by this definition Jains, Boudh, Christians, Sikh, Bahais etc all will have to be classified as Minorities and it will be opening can of worms.
         
        There should be affirmative actions for poor and not reservation. The root cause of poverty to be tackled. The root cause is having large number of children in a family, family planning, not sending children to school, these .
         
        Madarsa and Gurukul education will not take forward any one. Modern education that will provide international class of education and thereby job opportunities is a must.
         
        Jairaj Yadav


        From: Ravinder Singh <progressindia008@ yahoo.com>
        To: IndianJustice@ yahoogroups. com; India-Force@ yahoogroups. com; indianthinkers@ yahoogroups. com; voiceofindiagroup@ yahoogroups. co.in; groundroots@ yahoogroups. com; PWAP@yahoogroups. com; Branded_Indian@ yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:19:34 PM
        Subject: [India-Force] National Agenda for Muslims Development

        National Agenda for Muslims Development
                                                                               
        Respected Dr. Singh

        Widening the jobs and educational opportunities to the millions of its citizens in a cost effective manner should be the national priority for India in the new millennium. Muslims constitute a large segment of those Indians who continue to suffer due to lack of proper education. The literacy levels amongst the Muslim are the lowest, as has been authenticated by Sachar Panel. Thus they have a long way to go before they can catch up with the rest of the country.

        Due to the educational backwardness Muslims are not able to participate in the economic development. In jobs many times they face discrimination, which has led to their negligible presence in Government services, even at the lowest levels, where education does not matter. With this social handicap, they can look for any respectable level of participation only with effective instruments of support by the Government. Removal of religion based discriminatory Clause 3 under Artcle 341 of the Constituiton, creating a Separate Subgroup within the OBC reservation and launch of a Special Component Plan for Muslims of a reasonable size of Rs. 25,000 crores annually, seems logical and absolutely necessary steps.

        In the changing dynamics of world order and the emergence of knowledge societies, where the emergence of private sector in playing an important role in education, jobs and new enterprises, the importance of quality education is further enhanced. Thus providing quality education to 30 million Muslims to bring them into national mainstream is a major challenge for the Government.  

        In view of the increasing marginalisation of Muslims in social and economic spheres over a period of time, the feeling is growing that Muslim youths may loose faith in the system and about their future. Thus, there is urgent need for attention by the Government, intellegentia and the political system to devise suitable measures to address their issues and grievances, and more importantly take effective steps to ensure their participation in the mainstream education and social and economic development.

        The question of social opportunity and public policy needs to be answered keeping in view the poor economic development of the community. If fair representation in jobs, education and resources allocation is ensured, it will have strong cascading effects on the development of the community. Keeping in view the above dynamics and based on the wide spread consultations among the community leaders; and the discussions held at the India Islamic Centre, New Delhi on the occiaison of Felicitation of Muslim Minsters and newely elect MPs on 9th June, 09, the following recommendations have emerged:

        1. No Reservation but Correction of the religion based discriminatory Clause (3) under Article 341 of the Constitution, which was imposed by a Presidential Order 1950. The existence of this Clause contradicts the secular character of our constitution, which is mentioned in the Preamble of the Constitutuion and guarnteed under Artcle 14, 15 and 16 of the Constitution “that no discrimination will be made to its citizens based on gender, caste, religion etc.” And yet Muslims and Christens face religion based discrimination under this infamous Presidential Order 1950.

        2. No Reservation but Fair Share under the OBC quota, wherein based on the Mandal Commmission recommendations, Muslims OBC castes constitute one third (8.4%) of the 27%. Muslims, like Hindus MBCs, have also not got their share in OBC reservation, as few powerful castes take away the chunk of the OBC quota, say Yadavs in Northern India . Therefore based on the South pattern of Kerala, Tamilnadu, Karnataka and AP, Advanced OBCs, MBCs and Muslim OBCs may be given Quota within Quota, as per their share. This will be in total conformity with the spirit of reservation, where all get Justice, a Just and a Fair Share.

        3. No Reservation but Affirmative Actions for their effective participation in the national mainstream by accessing education and economic opportunities through a set of Affirmative Actions.  Through Special Component Plan of Rs. 25,000 crores, an annual budget of Rs. 15,000 crores may be created for Modernisation of the Madarsa Educational Network and for opening new educational institutions for Muslims under 85:15 ratio, wherein 85% grant is by GOI and 15% by the host. Another Budget of Rs. 10,000 crores to be created for their large scale skills development programs, creation of small enterprises and other economic opportunities.

        4. No Reservation but Equitable Distribution under the spendings by all economic ministries of the Central Government. The apppoitnment of a Monitoring Officer in each ministry or mandating the Ministry of Minority Affairs to ask for status report on quarterly basis of the adherence to the 15% spendings for minorities (10% exclusively for Muslims) will serve the purpose.

        5. Safety, Security and Sensitivity towards minorities. Suitable law may be passed by the Parliament for the protection of minorities by covering them under the Criminal Act, on par with the SC/ST Criminal Act. This will ensure that harassment and profiling of minorities is not done. And in cases of riots, blasts and terrorist activities, even before the preliminary investigations are done, some Muslim names are flashed in media, which not only affects the investigations, but create very negative perception about Muslims in the society. Similalry, in cases of riots, Strict Punishment to those responsible and Dettering Compensation to the victims, (Rs. 25 lacs and jobs to the dependents of the victims), will stop any riots in future.

        We believe that if these measures are taken by the UPA Government, then Muslims will be able to effectively participate in the national mainstream and contribute to the economic progress and double digit growth of the nation.

        Thanking you and with regards

        (M J Khan)

         




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