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  • Kamal Industries Rudrapur.
    The Bar Association should draft certain internal ethics for there members barring them to do so, for any criminal. Anuj Jain ... From: Prof R K Gupta-India
    Message 1 of 8 , Mar 31, 2009
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      The Bar Association should draft certain internal ethics for there members barring them to do so, for any criminal.
       
       
      Anuj Jain
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:42 AM
      Subject: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India

        Anjali Waghmare a nondescript lawyer in Mumbai tried to en-cash the terrorist prosecution case to become popular in media and hence enhance her bread and butter with jam and toppings.She should be boycotted for her foul act of accepting  to defend a rotten and savage terrorist.Bar Council of india should pass urgently a resolution not to defend any crminla involved in well known and on face proven terrorist acts.

      She would argue that as a professional and a lawyer she has duty and responsibility to ensure justice to the accused or a defendant in a court of law.

      This noble service she could do by taking up cases of poor people and victims from Indian society.

      I can refer to her several of cases of  victimized women and children in Mumbai itself and Maharashtra so she can satisfy her noble thirst.

      Such money greedy,self seeking and unethical people practising law are biggest threats to Indian society.A large numner of lawyers of India are out of control and behaving like white collar goons.

      Ajmal Kassab is not Indian citizen nor he has entered India on valid travel documents and visa and hence has no rights in this country.His acts have been barbaric and savage and hence he has no claim on human rights too.Such a mad dog and outright criminal should be hanged fastest possible.As regards possibility of him being victimised, he was caught red handed in open public eye on road by police while on terrorist assignment and in action, in India.What more proof is needed? Indian judiciary should stop fraudulent trials and show of equity etc and hang him without wasting much time.

      Courts should not overlook point that they are having huge backlogs and are not delivery justice to Indian citizens for decades.They are hardly doing anything to improve situation.Shameless ly cases are dragged by them for decades.

      Hence their talking of doing justice and fairness is laughable.

      Indians should stop acting hypocrites and eliminate criminal elements  from outside and within Indian society.Afzal guru should be immediately hanged. Supreme Court of India should put maximum time celiling for han ging a convict from date of order.It should not be left to political manipulations.

      I condemn this lady's  malafied motives to make hay while crime shines attitude.


      The lawyers in this country should start behaving properly, stop delaying cases and start charging reasonable fees.They should not take their third class and politicised Bar associations for granted for seeking cover  for their misconduct and beimaani.

      Enough is enough.

      No lawyers in country should defend known criminals, terrorists,corrupt government officers caught in bribery and corruption acts and hard core history sheeters.

      Our legal system is built to ensure  convction only by convincing evidence collected by prosecution. Hence there is built in saftey in courts against even undefended accuszed persons.Lawyer is not really needed.Only judges have to act more allert and responsibly when a person is not defended by a black coat.This judge of Kasab acn do same.

      Let me remind lawyers of this country that they are turning blind eye to all foul acts being done by people in their fraternity and interpreting their code of conduct wrongly.

      A lawyer's professional duty is to defend innocent and not the guilty.Their duty is to bring justice to people and not avoid justice.They should help  courts find oput and opunish the guilty ,even their own client.To delay cases and manipulate facts is worse than prostitution. It is criminal act.

      Unfortunately the large number of greedy and corrupt elements having entered our third rate legal education system and Indian courts are doing just the opposite of what they should.

      Before people loose their patience, lawyers should start behaving.


      Prof R K Gupta
      www.indiaforce. org 



    • Sukla Sen
      How terribly stupid! Anjali is on the legal aid panel of the state. Accordingly, she has been asked by the court to represent Kasab in the case against him as
      Message 2 of 8 , Apr 1, 2009
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        Dear member Your view is alright.But it is really indigestible that the cheap criminal sprayed bullet on innocent Indians senselessly and without any cause and is being defended by another Indian.It is not necessary to have a lawyer.Kasab himself can defend.many litigants argue themselves.If he is innocent he should be able to show the facts to court.lawyers is mere an agent of litigant.Let us not be emotional and overdo fairness bit.fair to whom? a rotten mass murderer and a Islamic extremist and a foreigner who entered illegally in India to kill? Just shoot him now that we extracted information from him.How much he is costing to nation?what we are trying to show and to whom? and what for?Do we owe anything to other countries?Court will of course order a lawyer but lawyers should refuse being Indian proud citizens.They can serve law and society by helping quick justice and helping poor and destitute victims.Please avoid degrading remarks on other members.Every one has right to express his or her view point.Using expletives and foul remarks wont win your argument.
        Moderator
        _____________
        How terribly stupid!

        Anjali is on the legal aid panel of the state. Accordingly, she has been asked by the court to represent Kasab in the case against him as in order to proceed with the case the accused needs a lawyer to represent him. She will be paid by the state for her services

        Those who are opposing in order to play to the gallery are actually obstructing the delivery of justice.
        Do they think the case is so weak that the mere formality of the defendant being represented by a lawyer would see the case crumble?
        They have deliberately elected to put the credibility of Indian legal system on trial in the court of international opinion in pursuance of their narrow selfish goals.
        What a bunch of ugly traitors!

        Shukla

        On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Kamal Industries Rudrapur. <sapphiregoldcooker@...> wrote:

        The Bar Association should draft certain internal ethics for there members barring them to do so, for any criminal.
         
         
        Anuj Jain
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:42 AM
        Subject: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India

          Anjali Waghmare a nondescript lawyer in Mumbai tried to en-cash the terrorist prosecution case to become popular in media and hence enhance her bread and butter with jam and toppings.She should be boycotted for her foul act of accepting  to defend a rotten and savage terrorist.Bar Council of india should pass urgently a resolution not to defend any criminal involved in well known and on face proven terrorist acts.

        She would argue that as a professional and a lawyer she has duty and responsibility to ensure justice to the accused or a defendant in a court of law.

        This noble service she could do by taking up cases of poor people and victims from Indian society.

        I can refer to her several of cases of  victimized women and children in Mumbai itself and Maharashtra so she can satisfy her noble thirst.

        Such money greedy,self seeking and unethical people practising law are biggest threats to Indian society.A large number of lawyers of India are out of control and behaving like white collar goons.

        Jamal Kassab is not Indian citizen nor he has entered India on valid travel documents and visa and hence has no rights in this country.His acts have been barbaric and savage and hence he has no claim on human rights too.Such a mad dog and outright criminal should be hanged fastest possible.As regards possibility of him being victimised, he was caught red handed in open public eye on road by police while on terrorist assignment and in action, in India.What more proof is needed? Indian judiciary should stop fraudulent trials and show of equity etc and hang him without wasting much time.

        Courts should not overlook point that they are having huge backlogs and are not delivery justice to Indian citizens for decades.They are hardly doing anything to improve situation.Shamelessly cases are dragged by them for decades.

        Hence their talking of doing justice and fairness is laughable.

        Indians should stop acting hypocrites and eliminate criminal elements  from outside and within Indian society.Afzal guru should be immediately hanged. Supreme Court of India should put maximum time ceiling for hanging a convict from date of order.It should not be left to political manipulations.

        I condemn this lady's  malafied motives to make hay while crime shines attitude.


        The lawyers in this country should start behaving properly, stop delaying cases and start charging reasonable fees.They should not take their third class and politicised Bar associations for granted for seeking cover  for their misconduct and beimaan.

        Enough is enough.

        No lawyers in country should defend known criminals, terrorists,corrupt government officers caught in bribery and corruption acts and hard core history sheeters.

        Our legal system is built to ensure  convection only by convincing evidence collected by prosecution.Hence there is built in safety in courts against even undefended accused persons.Lawyer is not really needed.Only judges have to act more alert and responsibly when a person is not defended by a black coat.This judge of Kasab can do same.

        Let me remind lawyers of this country that they are turning blind eye to all foul acts being done by people in their fraternity and interpreting their code of conduct wrongly.

        A lawyer's professional duty is to defend innocent and not the guilty.Their duty is to bring justice to people and not avoid justice.They should help  courts find out and punish the guilty ,even their own client.To delay cases and manipulate facts is worse than prostitution.It is criminal act.

        Unfortunately the large number of greedy and corrupt elements having entered our third rate legal education system and Indian courts are doing just the opposite of what they should.

        Before people loose their patience, lawyers should start behaving.


        Prof R K Gupta
        www.indiaforce.org 




      • Dr Walter Fernandes
        Prof. Gupta As a professor you should know that there is something called professional ethics. A lawyer has a duty to defend an accused till he/she is proved
        Message 3 of 8 , Apr 1, 2009
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          Dear member
          A lawyer is just like any other several professional occupations.nothing special about them but they have taken society to transom.Lawyer is first a member of society and then Indian citizen.Then he is lawyer.How a lawyer can defend a rotten mad criminal who has entered India illegally and shot 100 people totally innocent? Let us stop doing human rights drama.Such criminals deserve to be shot through their bottom.We have already extracted information from this fundamentalist terrorist and mercenary.Why now spend lacs daily ion this rat?WE have millions of other cases pending and this lady lawyer can serve her profession by representing poor victims. Please also understand that it is not compulsory to have a lawyer.Lawyer is merely an agent of litigant.Many people argue their cases themselves.Please also realise that as it is Indian judicial system provides the accused right to be quiet.Most of criminals anyway don't come in witness box.Prosecution has to prove case beyond shadow of doubt.That is law.So it really does not matter if he has lawyer or not.It is for judge to ensure that evidence produced by prosecution is intact and believable or not.We are giving too much importance to lawyers.that is why they are exploiting litigants and delaying justice.
          Why this rotten criminal cant argue his own case?he is so smart and capable.While courts will always offer a lawyer, the legal fraternity should boycott.How an Indian can stand to defend a murder of Indian citizens?Shame!
          Moderator
          ___________
          Prof. Gupta
           
          As a professor you should know that there is something called professional ethics. A lawyer has a duty to defend an accused till he/she is proved guilty. A doctor has a duty to take care of the health of all persons whether he/she considers them good or not. A teacher has a duty to teach and help a bad student to improve and so on. We cannot escape this duty.
           
          Walter
           
          Dr Walter Fernandes
          Director
          North Eastern Social Research Centre
          110 Kharghuli Road (1st floor)
          Guwahati 781004
          Assam, India
          Tel. (+91-361) 2602819
          Email: nesrcghy@...
          Web Page: www.creighton.edu/CollaborativeMinistry/NESRC
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Sukla Sen
          Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 4:44 PM
          Subject: [SPAM][invites plus] Re: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India

          How terribly stupid!


          Anjali is on the legal aid panel of the state. Accordingly, she has been asked by the court to represent Kasab in the case against him as in order to proceed with the case the accused needs a lawyer to represent him. She will be paid by the state for her services

          Those who are opposing in order to play to the gallery are actually obstructing the delivery of justice.
          Do they think the case is so weak that the mere formality  of the defendant being represented by a lawyer would see the case crumble?
          They have deliberately elected to put the credibility of Indian legal system on trial in the court of international opinion in pursuance of their narrow selfish goals.
          What a bunch of ugly traitors!

          Sukla

          On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Kamal Industries Rudrapur. <sapphire gold cooker@ gmail.com> wrote:

          The Bar Association should draft certain internal ethics for there members barring them to do so, for any criminal.
           
           
          Anuj Jain
           
          ----- Original Message -----
          Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:42 AM
          Subject: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India

            Anjali Waghmare a nondescript lawyer in Mumbai tried to en-cash the terrorist prosecution case to become popular in media and hence enhance her bread and butter with jam and toppings.She should be boycotted for her foul act of accepting  to defend a rotten and savage terrorist.Bar Council of india should pass urgently a resolution not to defend any crminla involved in well known and on face proven terrorist acts.

          She would argue that as a professional and a lawyer she has duty and responsibility to ensure justice to the accused or a defendant in a court of law.

          This noble service she could do by taking up cases of poor people and victims from Indian society.

          I can refer to her several of cases of  victimized women and children in Mumbai itself and Maharashtra so she can satisfy her noble thirst.

          Such money greedy,self seeking and unethical people practising law are biggest threats to Indian society.A large numner of lawyers of India are out of control and behaving like white collar goons.

          Ajmal Kassab is not Indian citizen nor he has entered India on valid travel documents and visa and hence has no rights in this country.His acts have been barbaric and savage and hence he has no claim on human rights too.Such a mad dog and outright criminal should be hanged fastest possible.As regards possibility of him being victimised, he was caught red handed in open public eye on road by police while on terrorist assignment and in action, in India.What more proof is needed? Indian judiciary should stop fraudulent trials and show of equity etc and hang him without wasting much time.

          Courts should not overlook point that they are having huge backlogs and are not delivery justice to Indian citizens for decades.They are hardly doing anything to improve situation.Shameless ly cases are dragged by them for decades.

          Hence their talking of doing justice and fairness is laughable.

          Indians should stop acting hypocrites and eliminate criminal elements  from outside and within Indian society.Afzal guru should be immediately hanged. Supreme Court of India should put maximum time celiling for han ging a convict from date of order.It should not be left to political manipulations.

          I condemn this lady's  malafied motives to make hay while crime shines attitude.


          The lawyers in this country should start behaving properly, stop delaying cases and start charging reasonable fees.They should not take their third class and politicised Bar associations for granted for seeking cover  for their misconduct and beimaani.

          Enough is enough.

          No lawyers in country should defend known criminals, terrorists,corrupt government officers caught in bribery and corruption acts and hard core history sheeters.

          Our legal system is built to ensure  convction only by convincing evidence collected by prosecution. Hence there is built in saftey in courts against even undefended accuszed persons.Lawyer is not really needed.Only judges have to act more allert and responsibly when a person is not defended by a black coat.This judge of Kasab acn do same.

          Let me remind lawyers of this country that they are turning blind eye to all foul acts being done by people in their fraternity and interpreting their code of conduct wrongly.

          A lawyer's professional duty is to defend innocent and not the guilty.Their duty is to bring justice to people and not avoid justice.They should help  courts find oput and opunish the guilty ,even their own client.To delay cases and manipulate facts is worse than prostitution. It is criminal act.

          Unfortunately the large number of greedy and corrupt elements having entered our third rate legal education system and Indian courts are doing just the opposite of what they should.

          Before people loose their patience, lawyers should start behaving.


          Prof R K Gupta
          www.indiaforce. org 




        • shadi katyalsearch
          Dear Prof. Gupta, It is surprising that on one side you talk of Law and Order and on the other side you show your disrespect and abusive language to a lady who
          Message 4 of 8 , Apr 1, 2009
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            Dear member
            I dont know this lady at all.So where is question of being biased.Copurt may ask some lawyer.Yes out of contitutionla duty.But lawyer need not accept it.She could decline.She bwill get money and free daily publicty.Dont think is so dumb as not to understand this.Her husband is polcieman whom these crminals shot bya dozen at elast.Kasab mercilessly sprayed bullets in hundreds of citizens of India.he is a mad dog.An animal worse than wildest species.We have extracted information from him.Just shoot him and close this issue( Israel,germany or USA would have done it by now and even China-so you mean all these countries are badly run and dont respect law?).Why spend lacs of rupees every month on him?As reagrds your claim on dedication of lawyers generally in India, ask any litgant.Please dont comemtn and siscuss from an alien locationm without knwoing how lawyers behave in India and what is condition of judiciary.These couirts and lawyers who want to show their fairness are unfair to indian litgants.people are fed up by them .Let us stop secular and fairness drama.Daily indian citizens are raped,cheated and maimed.Nothing happens.
            moderator
            _________________
            Dear Prof. Gupta,

            It is surprising that on one side you talk of Law and Order and on the other side you show your disrespect and abusive language to a lady who has courage to stand up and defend even the biggest terrorist and murder. First of all she has not volunteered but has been asked by the State Court.
             I
            Do you recognize that if Kasab is not given proper defence, he can be released by the Suprem court as he didnot get his day in the court properly.

            It is evident from all your recent mails that you bring money in the forfront in every problem
            the nation faces. Look back and see your criticism is mostly based on Money. The price rises,property values and what not is money and money.I leave the rest of letter not even to comment on it.

            I question what makes you judge to this lady in this matter.You may have other cases and have you approached her and has she refused? Or this typical of us to judge others with monetary mind and I regret to state that your this letter had been like many others has only MONEY value.

            Law and Order requires that everyone is innocent unless proved guilty.He has confessed to be guilty but even a guilty person needs a day in the corut. It is shame full for us Indians to refuse such defence lawyer and even write such obnnoxiuous letter against a person who has been asked by court.

            This kind of Defence shows that there is still some light and hope left in Indian judiciary and let the world see that even though we were attacked by terrorist we did provide him with proper defence.
            Regards
            shadi


            --- On Tue, 3/31/09, Prof R K Gupta-India <cityju@...> wrote:

            From: Prof R K Gupta-India <cityju@...>
            Subject: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India
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            Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 12:12 AM

              Anjali Waghmare a nondescript lawyer in Mumbai tried to en-cash the terrorist prosecution case to become popular in media and hence enhance her bread and butter with jam and toppings.She should be boycotted for her foul act of accepting  to defend a rotten and savage terrorist.Bar Council of india should pass urgently a resolution not to defend any crminla involved in well known and on face proven terrorist acts.

            She would argue that as a professional and a lawyer she has duty and responsibility to ensure justice to the accused or a defendant in a court of law.

            This noble service she could do by taking up cases of poor people and victims from Indian society.

            I can refer to her several of cases of  victimized women and children in Mumbai itself and Maharashtra so she can satisfy her noble thirst.

            Such money greedy,self seeking and unethical people practising law are biggest threats to Indian society.A large numner of lawyers of India are out of control and behaving like white collar goons.

            Ajmal Kassab is not Indian citizen nor he has entered India on valid travel documents and visa and hence has no rights in this country.His acts have been barbaric and savage and hence he has no claim on human rights too.Such a mad dog and outright criminal should be hanged fastest possible.As regards possibility of him being victimised, he was caught red handed in open public eye on road by police while on terrorist assignment and in action, in India.What more proof is needed? Indian judiciary should stop fraudulent trials and show of equity etc and hang him without wasting much time.

            Courts should not overlook point that they are having huge backlogs and are not delivery justice to Indian citizens for decades.They are hardly doing anything to improve situation.Shameless ly cases are dragged by them for decades.

            Hence their talking of doing justice and fairness is laughable.

            Indians should stop acting hypocrites and eliminate criminal elements  from outside and within Indian society.Afzal guru should be immediately hanged. Supreme Court of India should put maximum time celiling for han ging a convict from date of order.It should not be left to political manipulations.

            I condemn this lady's  malafied motives to make hay while crime shines attitude.


            The lawyers in this country should start behaving properly, stop delaying cases and start charging reasonable fees.They should not take their third class and politicised Bar associations for granted for seeking cover  for their misconduct and beimaani.

            Enough is enough.

            No lawyers in country should defend known criminals, terrorists,corrupt government officers caught in bribery and corruption acts and hard core history sheeters.

            Our legal system is built to ensure  convction only by convincing evidence collected by prosecution. Hence there is built in saftey in courts against even undefended accuszed persons.Lawyer is not really needed.Only judges have to act more allert and responsibly when a person is not defended by a black coat.This judge of Kasab acn do same.

            Let me remind lawyers of this country that they are turning blind eye to all foul acts being done by people in their fraternity and interpreting their code of conduct wrongly.

            A lawyer's professional duty is to defend innocent and not the guilty.Their duty is to bring justice to people and not avoid justice.They should help  courts find oput and opunish the guilty ,even their own client.To delay cases and manipulate facts is worse than prostitution. It is criminal act.

            Unfortunately the large number of greedy and corrupt elements having entered our third rate legal education system and Indian courts are doing just the opposite of what they should.

            Before people loose their patience, lawyers should start behaving.


            Prof R K Gupta
            www.indiaforce. org 




          • Panna Lal Nawalkha
            BASICALLY CORE AND CONTENTION OF DR.WALTER IS CORRECT.KEEPING IN VIEW OF HEINOUS AND MOST INHUMAN TRAGEDY OF THIS CENTURY,SHOULD NOT SUCH CRIMINALS BE ALLOWED
            Message 5 of 8 , Apr 1, 2009
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              BASICALLY CORE AND CONTENTION OF DR.WALTER IS CORRECT.KEEPING IN VIEW OF HEINOUS AND MOST INHUMAN TRAGEDY OF THIS CENTURY,SHOULD NOT SUCH CRIMINALS BE ALLOWED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES RATHER THAN THROUGH LEGAL SUPPORT FROM THE PEOPLE OF LAND BOMBARDED.MINDSET OF PEOPLE OF THIS LAND HAD NOT FORGOTTEN THE INNOCENT LOCAL AND GLOBAL POPULATION KILLED,INCLUDING SOME MOST DEDICATED AND TALENTED OFFICERS FROM POLICE.UNDER SUCH SITUATION DENIAL OF LEGAL AID FROM INDIAN BAR WOULD NOT BE CONSTRUED AS UNETHICAL. IS THERE ANY NEED OF DEFENCE IN A CASE WHERE CONFESSION OF CULPRIT ITSELF IS FINAL EVIDENCE  REQUIRED FOR JUDGEMENT? THE CONFIRMATION AND FURTHER CONFESSION BY KASAB BEFORE COURT NEED NOT ENTAIL THE ASSISTANCE OF ADVOCATE.
               
              DR.P.L.NAWALKHA



              From: Dr Walter Fernandes <walter.nesrc@...>
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              Sent: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009 6:07:41 PM
              Subject: [invites plus] Re: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India

              Dear member

              A lawyer is just like any other several professional occupations. nothing special about them but they have taken society to transom.Lawyer is first a member of society and then Indian citizen.Then he is lawyer.How a lawyer can defend a rotten mad criminal who has entered India illegally and shot 100 people totally innocent? Let us stop doing human rights drama.Such criminals deserve to be shot through their bottom.We have already extracted information from this fundamentalist terrorist and mercenary.Why now spend lacs daily ion this rat?WE have millions of other cases pending and this lady lawyer can serve her profession by representing poor victims. Please also understand that it is not compulsory to have a lawyer.Lawyer is merely an agent of litigant.Many people argue their cases themselves.Please also realise that as it is Indian judicial system provides the accused right to be quiet.Most of criminals anyway don't come in witness box.Prosecution has to prove case beyond shadow of doubt.That is law.So it really does not matter if he has lawyer or not.It is for judge to ensure that evidence produced by prosecution is intact and believable or not.We are giving too much importance to lawyers.that is why they are exploiting litigants and delaying justice.
              Why this rotten criminal cant argue his own case?he is so smart and capable.While courts will always offer a lawyer, the legal fraternity should boycott.How an Indian can stand to defend a murder of Indian citizens?Shame!
              Moderator
              ___________
              Prof. Gupta
               
              As a professor you should know that there is something called professional ethics. A lawyer has a duty to defend an accused till he/she is proved guilty. A doctor has a duty to take care of the health of all persons whether he/she considers them good or not. A teacher has a duty to teach and help a bad student to improve and so on. We cannot escape this duty.
               
              Walter
               
              Dr Walter Fernandes
              Director
              North Eastern Social Research Centre
              110 Kharghuli Road (1st floor)
              Guwahati 781004
              Assam, India
              Tel. (+91-361) 2602819
              Email: nesrcghy@gmail. com
              Web Page: www.creighton. edu/Collaborativ eMinistry/ NESRC
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: Sukla Sen
              Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 4:44 PM
              Subject: [SPAM][invites plus] Re: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India

              How terribly stupid!


              Anjali is on the legal aid panel of the state. Accordingly, she has been asked by the court to represent Kasab in the case against him as in order to proceed with the case the accused needs a lawyer to represent him. She will be paid by the state for her services

              Those who are opposing in order to play to the gallery are actually obstructing the delivery of justice.
              Do they think the case is so weak that the mere formality  of the defendant being represented by a lawyer would see the case crumble?
              They have deliberately elected to put the credibility of Indian legal system on trial in the court of international opinion in pursuance of their narrow selfish goals.
              What a bunch of ugly traitors!

              Sukla

              On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Kamal Industries Rudrapur. <sapphire gold cooker@ gmail.com> wrote:

              The Bar Association should draft certain internal ethics for there members barring them to do so, for any criminal.
               
               
              Anuj Jain
               
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:42 AM
              Subject: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India

                Anjali Waghmare a nondescript lawyer in Mumbai tried to en-cash the terrorist prosecution case to become popular in media and hence enhance her bread and butter with jam and toppings.She should be boycotted for her foul act of accepting  to defend a rotten and savage terrorist.Bar Council of india should pass urgently a resolution not to defend any crminla involved in well known and on face proven terrorist acts.

              She would argue that as a professional and a lawyer she has duty and responsibility to ensure justice to the accused or a defendant in a court of law.

              This noble service she could do by taking up cases of poor people and victims from Indian society.

              I can refer to her several of cases of  victimized women and children in Mumbai itself and Maharashtra so she can satisfy her noble thirst.

              Such money greedy,self seeking and unethical people practising law are biggest threats to Indian society.A large numner of lawyers of India are out of control and behaving like white collar goons.

              Ajmal Kassab is not Indian citizen nor he has entered India on valid travel documents and visa and hence has no rights in this country.His acts have been barbaric and savage and hence he has no claim on human rights too.Such a mad dog and outright criminal should be hanged fastest possible.As regards possibility of him being victimised, he was caught red handed in open public eye on road by police while on terrorist assignment and in action, in India.What more proof is needed? Indian judiciary should stop fraudulent trials and show of equity etc and hang him without wasting much time.

              Courts should not overlook point that they are having huge backlogs and are not delivery justice to Indian citizens for decades.They are hardly doing anything to improve situation.Shameless ly cases are dragged by them for decades.

              Hence their talking of doing justice and fairness is laughable.

              Indians should stop acting hypocrites and eliminate criminal elements  from outside and within Indian society.Afzal guru should be immediately hanged. Supreme Court of India should put maximum time celiling for han ging a convict from date of order.It should not be left to political manipulations.

              I condemn this lady's  malafied motives to make hay while crime shines attitude.


              The lawyers in this country should start behaving properly, stop delaying cases and start charging reasonable fees.They should not take their third class and politicised Bar associations for granted for seeking cover  for their misconduct and beimaani.

              Enough is enough.

              No lawyers in country should defend known criminals, terrorists,corrupt government officers caught in bribery and corruption acts and hard core history sheeters.

              Our legal system is built to ensure  convction only by convincing evidence collected by prosecution. Hence there is built in saftey in courts against even undefended accuszed persons.Lawyer is not really needed.Only judges have to act more allert and responsibly when a person is not defended by a black coat.This judge of Kasab acn do same.

              Let me remind lawyers of this country that they are turning blind eye to all foul acts being done by people in their fraternity and interpreting their code of conduct wrongly.

              A lawyer's professional duty is to defend innocent and not the guilty.Their duty is to bring justice to people and not avoid justice.They should help  courts find oput and opunish the guilty ,even their own client.To delay cases and manipulate facts is worse than prostitution. It is criminal act.

              Unfortunately the large number of greedy and corrupt elements having entered our third rate legal education system and Indian courts are doing just the opposite of what they should.

              Before people loose their patience, lawyers should start behaving.


              Prof R K Gupta
              www.indiaforce. org 






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            • seculartraitor
              Do not fall into the trap laid bu secular andf talebani goons. Let her represent Kasab, Anyway he is not going to hanged because our impotent Talebani govt
              Message 6 of 8 , Apr 2, 2009
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                Do not fall into the trap laid bu secular andf talebani goons. Let her represent Kasab, Anyway he is not going to hanged because our impotent Talebani govt does not have guts ti hang Guru and unles he is hanged, Kasab cannot be hanged.

                Let all secualrist pray for Kasab and Tytlers. And what is our great Supreme Court doing? Where are our Human right activists. Wherea re all our Talebani aGENTS.

                --- In India-Force@yahoogroups.com, Panna Lal Nawalkha <pannalal_nawalkha@...> wrote:
                >
                > BASICALLY CORE AND CONTENTION OF DR.WALTER IS CORRECT.KEEPING IN VIEW OF HEINOUS AND MOST INHUMAN TRAGEDY OF THIS CENTURY,SHOULD NOT SUCH CRIMINALS BE ALLOWED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES RATHER THAN THROUGH LEGAL SUPPORT FROM THE PEOPLE OF LAND BOMBARDED.MINDSET OF PEOPLE OF THIS LAND HAD NOT FORGOTTEN THE INNOCENT LOCAL AND GLOBAL POPULATION KILLED,INCLUDING SOME MOST DEDICATED AND TALENTED OFFICERS FROM POLICE.UNDER SUCH SITUATION DENIAL OF LEGAL AID FROM INDIAN BAR WOULD NOT BE CONSTRUED AS UNETHICAL. IS THERE ANY NEED OF DEFENCE IN A CASE WHERE CONFESSION OF CULPRIT ITSELF IS FINAL EVIDENCE REQUIRED FOR JUDGEMENT? THE CONFIRMATION AND FURTHER CONFESSION BY KASAB BEFORE COURT NEED NOT ENTAIL THE ASSISTANCE OF ADVOCATE.
                >
                >
                > DR.P.L.NAWALKHA
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > ________________________________
                > From: Dr Walter Fernandes <walter.nesrc@...>
                > To: invitesplus@yahoogroups.com; India-Force@yahoogroups.com; india-unity@yahoogroups.com; indiathinkers net <indiathinkersnet@yahoogroups.com>; mahajanapada <Mahajanapada@yahoogroups.com>; bahujan <Bahujan@yahoogroups.com>; IHRO <ihro@yahoogroups.com>; issue online <issuesonline_worldwide@yahoogroups.com>; arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com; peace-mumbai@...; citizen-mumbai <citizen-mumbai@...>; Samuhik Khoj <samuhik-khoj@yahoogroups.com>; mire <mihre@...>
                > Sent: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009 6:07:41 PM
                > Subject: [invites plus] Re: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India
                >
                >
                > Dear member
                > A lawyer is just like any other several professional occupations. nothing special about them but they have taken society to transom.Lawyer is first a member of society and then Indian citizen.Then he is lawyer.How a lawyer can defend a rotten mad criminal who has entered India illegally and shot 100 people totally innocent? Let us stop doing human rights drama.Such criminals deserve to be shot through their bottom.We have already extracted information from this fundamentalist terrorist and mercenary.Why now spend lacs daily ion this rat?WE have millions of other cases pending and this lady lawyer can serve her profession by representing poor victims.
                > Please also understand that it is not compulsory to have a lawyer.Lawyer is merely an agent of litigant.Many people argue their cases themselves.Please also realise that as it is Indian judicial system provides the accused right to be quiet.Most of criminals anyway don't come in witness box.Prosecution has to prove case beyond shadow of doubt.That is law.So it really does not matter if he has lawyer or not.It is for judge to ensure that evidence produced by prosecution is intact and believable or not.We are giving too much importance to lawyers.that is why they are exploiting litigants and delaying justice.
                > Why this rotten criminal cant argue his own case?he is so smart and capable.While courts will always offer a lawyer, the legal fraternity should boycott.How an Indian can stand to defend a murder of Indian citizens?Shame!
                > Moderator
                > ___________
                > Prof. Gupta
                >
                > As a professor you should know that there is
                > something called professional ethics. A lawyer has a duty to defend an accused
                > till he/she is proved guilty. A doctor has a duty to take care of the health of
                > all persons whether he/she considers them good or not. A teacher has a duty to
                > teach and help a bad student to improve and so on. We cannot escape this
                > duty.
                >
                > Walter
                >
                > Dr Walter Fernandes
                > Director
                > North Eastern
                > Social Research Centre
                > 110 Kharghuli Road (1st floor)
                > Guwahati
                > 781004
                > Assam, India
                > Tel. (+91-361) 2602819
                > Email: nesrcghy@gmail. com
                > Web Page: www.creighton. edu/Collaborativ eMinistry/ NESRC
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: Sukla Sen
                > To: India-Force@ yahoogroups. com ; india-unity@ yahoogroups. com ; indiathinkersnet ; mahajanapada ; bahujan ; IHRO ; issue online ; arkitectindia@ yahoogroups. com ; invitesplus@ yahoogroups. com ; peace-mumbai@ googlegroups. com ; citizen-mumbai ; Samuhik Khoj ; mire
                > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 4:44 PM
                > Subject: [SPAM][invites plus] Re: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India
                >
                > How terribly stupid!
                >
                > Anjali is on the legal aid panel of the state. Accordingly, she has been asked by the court to represent Kasab in the case against him as in order to proceed with the case the accused needs a lawyer to represent him. She will be paid by the state for her services
                >
                > Those who are opposing in order to play to the gallery are actually obstructing the delivery of justice.
                > Do they think the case is so weak that the mere formality of the defendant being represented by a lawyer would see the case crumble?
                > They have deliberately elected to put the credibility of Indian legal system on trial in the court of international opinion in pursuance of their narrow selfish goals.
                > What a bunch of ugly traitors!
                >
                > Sukla
                >
                >
                > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Kamal Industries Rudrapur. <sapphire gold cooker@ gmail.com> wrote:
                >
                > The Bar Association should draft certain internal ethics for there members barring them to do so, for any criminal.
                >
                >
                > Anuj Jain
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: Prof R K Gupta-India
                > To: Dil-Maange-More@ yahoogroups. com ; TheCybugle@yahoogro ups.com ; branded_indian@ yahoogroups. com ; cyberfriendsgroup@ yahoogroups. com ; future-of-india@ yahoogroups. com ; india-force@ yahoogroups. com ; indianjustice@ yahoogroups. com ; indiathinkersnet@ yahoogroups. com ; insidejodhpur@ yahoogroups. com ; issuesonline_ worldwide@ yahoogroups. com ; jodhpurclub@ yahoogroups. com ; loksatta_initiative @yahoogroups. com ; maitri@yahoogroups. co.in ; managing-today@ yahoogroups. com ; powerupindiagroup@ yahoogroups. com ; rkgupta-alumni@ yahoogroups. com ; saksham@yahoogroups .com ; teachers-guild@ yahoogroups. com ; voiceofindiagroup@ yahoogroups. co.in ; desifellows@ yahoogroups. com ; indianfirst@ yahoogroups. com ; aryayouthgroup@ yahoogroups. com
                > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:42 AM
                > Subject: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India
                >
                > Anjali Waghmare a nondescript lawyer in Mumbai tried to en-cash the terrorist prosecution case to become popular in media and hence enhance her bread and butter with jam and toppings.She should be boycotted for her foul act of accepting to defend a rotten and savage terrorist.Bar Council of india should pass urgently a resolution not to defend any crminla involved in well known and on face proven terrorist acts.
                >
                > She would argue that as a professional and a lawyer she has duty and responsibility to ensure justice to the accused or a defendant in a court of law.
                >
                > This noble service she could do by taking up cases of poor people and victims from Indian society.
                >
                > I can refer to her several of cases of victimized women and children in Mumbai itself and Maharashtra so she can satisfy her noble thirst.
                >
                > Such money greedy,self seeking and unethical people practising law are biggest threats to Indian society.A large numner of lawyers of India are out of control and behaving like white collar goons.
                >
                > Ajmal Kassab is not Indian citizen nor he has entered India on valid travel documents and visa and hence has no rights in this country.His acts have been barbaric and savage and hence he has no claim on human rights too.Such a mad dog and outright criminal should be hanged fastest possible.As regards possibility of him being victimised, he was caught red handed in open public eye on road by police while on terrorist assignment and in action, in India.What more proof is needed? Indian judiciary should stop fraudulent trials and show of equity etc and hang him without wasting much time.
                >
                > Courts should not overlook point that they are having huge backlogs and are not delivery justice to Indian citizens for decades.They are hardly doing anything to improve situation.Shameless ly cases are dragged by them for decades.
                >
                > Hence their talking of doing justice and fairness is laughable.
                >
                > Indians should stop acting hypocrites and eliminate criminal elements from outside and within Indian society.Afzal guru should be immediately hanged. Supreme Court of India should put maximum time celiling for han ging a convict from date of order.It should not be left to political manipulations.
                >
                > I condemn this lady's malafied motives to make hay while crime shines attitude.
                >
                >
                > The lawyers in this country should start behaving properly, stop delaying cases and start charging reasonable fees.They should not take their third class and politicised Bar associations for granted for seeking cover for their misconduct and beimaani.
                >
                > Enough is enough.
                >
                > No lawyers in country should defend known criminals, terrorists,corrupt government officers caught in bribery and corruption acts and hard core history sheeters.
                >
                > Our legal system is built to ensure convction only by convincing evidence collected by prosecution. Hence there is built in saftey in courts against even undefended accuszed persons.Lawyer is not really needed.Only judges have to act more allert and responsibly when a person is not defended by a black coat.This judge of Kasab acn do same.
                >
                > Let me remind lawyers of this country that they are turning blind eye to all foul acts being done by people in their fraternity and interpreting their code of conduct wrongly.
                >
                > A lawyer's professional duty is to defend innocent and not the guilty.Their duty is to bring justice to people and not avoid justice.They should help courts find oput and opunish the guilty ,even their own client.To delay cases and manipulate facts is worse than prostitution. It is criminal act.
                >
                > Unfortunately the large number of greedy and corrupt elements having entered our third rate legal education system and Indian courts are doing just the opposite of what they should.
                >
                > Before people loose their patience, lawyers should start behaving.
                >
                >
                > Prof R K Gupta
                > www.indiaforce. org
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
                >
              • nigamrc
                Dear Mr Nawalkha I understand and appreciate your sentiments and out burst. However, I am afraid if it is going to make any difference. Are we ourselves not
                Message 7 of 8 , Apr 13, 2009
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                  Dear Mr Nawalkha
                  I understand and appreciate your sentiments and out burst. However, I am afraid if it is going to make any difference. Are we ourselves not responsible for such a fragmented society, which failed to rise to the occasion in 40s, when Gandhi and Nehru succumbed to the communal demand of partition for a Muslim homeland. Did we ever raise a little finger against ethnic cleansing carried out in Pakistan, B'desh and the Valley? Did we denounce Nehru for his Himalayan blunders like halting of Indian force from evicting the Pakistani Invaders or his Hindi-Chini bhai bhai ism, which culminated in the shameful debacle in 62 after rape of Tibet by the expansionist Chinese?
                  We must analyse why Swamis like Adi Shankar, Dayananda and Vivekananda failed to awaken us and we must act to awaken the masses by removing the facets of our philosophy, which caused its failure to face the onslaughts after inception of Islam and Christianity.
                  Today there is no nationalist channel, no news paper , no forum to champion the cause of nation. This is a sad commentary and I see no answer.
                  Ramesh

                  --- In India-Force@yahoogroups.com, seculartraitor <no_reply@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Do not fall into the trap laid bu secular andf talebani goons. Let her represent Kasab, Anyway he is not going to hanged because our impotent Talebani govt does not have guts ti hang Guru and unles he is hanged, Kasab cannot be hanged.
                  >
                  > Let all secualrist pray for Kasab and Tytlers. And what is our great Supreme Court doing? Where are our Human right activists. Wherea re all our Talebani aGENTS.
                  >
                  > --- In India-Force@yahoogroups.com, Panna Lal Nawalkha <pannalal_nawalkha@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > BASICALLY CORE AND CONTENTION OF DR.WALTER IS CORRECT.KEEPING IN VIEW OF HEINOUS AND MOST INHUMAN TRAGEDY OF THIS CENTURY,SHOULD NOT SUCH CRIMINALS BE ALLOWED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES RATHER THAN THROUGH LEGAL SUPPORT FROM THE PEOPLE OF LAND BOMBARDED.MINDSET OF PEOPLE OF THIS LAND HAD NOT FORGOTTEN THE INNOCENT LOCAL AND GLOBAL POPULATION KILLED,INCLUDING SOME MOST DEDICATED AND TALENTED OFFICERS FROM POLICE.UNDER SUCH SITUATION DENIAL OF LEGAL AID FROM INDIAN BAR WOULD NOT BE CONSTRUED AS UNETHICAL. IS THERE ANY NEED OF DEFENCE IN A CASE WHERE CONFESSION OF CULPRIT ITSELF IS FINAL EVIDENCE REQUIRED FOR JUDGEMENT? THE CONFIRMATION AND FURTHER CONFESSION BY KASAB BEFORE COURT NEED NOT ENTAIL THE ASSISTANCE OF ADVOCATE.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > DR.P.L.NAWALKHA
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > ________________________________
                  > > From: Dr Walter Fernandes <walter.nesrc@>
                  > > To: invitesplus@yahoogroups.com; India-Force@yahoogroups.com; india-unity@yahoogroups.com; indiathinkers net <indiathinkersnet@yahoogroups.com>; mahajanapada <Mahajanapada@yahoogroups.com>; bahujan <Bahujan@yahoogroups.com>; IHRO <ihro@yahoogroups.com>; issue online <issuesonline_worldwide@yahoogroups.com>; arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com; peace-mumbai@...; citizen-mumbai <citizen-mumbai@...>; Samuhik Khoj <samuhik-khoj@yahoogroups.com>; mire <mihre@...>
                  > > Sent: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009 6:07:41 PM
                  > > Subject: [invites plus] Re: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Dear member
                  > > A lawyer is just like any other several professional occupations. nothing special about them but they have taken society to transom.Lawyer is first a member of society and then Indian citizen.Then he is lawyer.How a lawyer can defend a rotten mad criminal who has entered India illegally and shot 100 people totally innocent? Let us stop doing human rights drama.Such criminals deserve to be shot through their bottom.We have already extracted information from this fundamentalist terrorist and mercenary.Why now spend lacs daily ion this rat?WE have millions of other cases pending and this lady lawyer can serve her profession by representing poor victims.
                  > > Please also understand that it is not compulsory to have a lawyer.Lawyer is merely an agent of litigant.Many people argue their cases themselves.Please also realise that as it is Indian judicial system provides the accused right to be quiet.Most of criminals anyway don't come in witness box.Prosecution has to prove case beyond shadow of doubt.That is law.So it really does not matter if he has lawyer or not.It is for judge to ensure that evidence produced by prosecution is intact and believable or not.We are giving too much importance to lawyers.that is why they are exploiting litigants and delaying justice.
                  > > Why this rotten criminal cant argue his own case?he is so smart and capable.While courts will always offer a lawyer, the legal fraternity should boycott.How an Indian can stand to defend a murder of Indian citizens?Shame!
                  > > Moderator
                  > > ___________
                  > > Prof. Gupta
                  > >
                  > > As a professor you should know that there is
                  > > something called professional ethics. A lawyer has a duty to defend an accused
                  > > till he/she is proved guilty. A doctor has a duty to take care of the health of
                  > > all persons whether he/she considers them good or not. A teacher has a duty to
                  > > teach and help a bad student to improve and so on. We cannot escape this
                  > > duty.
                  > >
                  > > Walter
                  > >
                  > > Dr Walter Fernandes
                  > > Director
                  > > North Eastern
                  > > Social Research Centre
                  > > 110 Kharghuli Road (1st floor)
                  > > Guwahati
                  > > 781004
                  > > Assam, India
                  > > Tel. (+91-361) 2602819
                  > > Email: nesrcghy@gmail. com
                  > > Web Page: www.creighton. edu/Collaborativ eMinistry/ NESRC
                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > > From: Sukla Sen
                  > > To: India-Force@ yahoogroups. com ; india-unity@ yahoogroups. com ; indiathinkersnet ; mahajanapada ; bahujan ; IHRO ; issue online ; arkitectindia@ yahoogroups. com ; invitesplus@ yahoogroups. com ; peace-mumbai@ googlegroups. com ; citizen-mumbai ; Samuhik Khoj ; mire
                  > > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 4:44 PM
                  > > Subject: [SPAM][invites plus] Re: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India
                  > >
                  > > How terribly stupid!
                  > >
                  > > Anjali is on the legal aid panel of the state. Accordingly, she has been asked by the court to represent Kasab in the case against him as in order to proceed with the case the accused needs a lawyer to represent him. She will be paid by the state for her services
                  > >
                  > > Those who are opposing in order to play to the gallery are actually obstructing the delivery of justice.
                  > > Do they think the case is so weak that the mere formality of the defendant being represented by a lawyer would see the case crumble?
                  > > They have deliberately elected to put the credibility of Indian legal system on trial in the court of international opinion in pursuance of their narrow selfish goals.
                  > > What a bunch of ugly traitors!
                  > >
                  > > Sukla
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Kamal Industries Rudrapur. <sapphire gold cooker@ gmail.com> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > The Bar Association should draft certain internal ethics for there members barring them to do so, for any criminal.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Anuj Jain
                  > >
                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > > From: Prof R K Gupta-India
                  > > To: Dil-Maange-More@ yahoogroups. com ; TheCybugle@yahoogro ups.com ; branded_indian@ yahoogroups. com ; cyberfriendsgroup@ yahoogroups. com ; future-of-india@ yahoogroups. com ; india-force@ yahoogroups. com ; indianjustice@ yahoogroups. com ; indiathinkersnet@ yahoogroups. com ; insidejodhpur@ yahoogroups. com ; issuesonline_ worldwide@ yahoogroups. com ; jodhpurclub@ yahoogroups. com ; loksatta_initiative @yahoogroups. com ; maitri@yahoogroups. co.in ; managing-today@ yahoogroups. com ; powerupindiagroup@ yahoogroups. com ; rkgupta-alumni@ yahoogroups. com ; saksham@yahoogroups .com ; teachers-guild@ yahoogroups. com ; voiceofindiagroup@ yahoogroups. co.in ; desifellows@ yahoogroups. com ; indianfirst@ yahoogroups. com ; aryayouthgroup@ yahoogroups. com
                  > > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:42 AM
                  > > Subject: [India-Force] defending a terrorist: The degradation of legal profession in India
                  > >
                  > > Anjali Waghmare a nondescript lawyer in Mumbai tried to en-cash the terrorist prosecution case to become popular in media and hence enhance her bread and butter with jam and toppings.She should be boycotted for her foul act of accepting to defend a rotten and savage terrorist.Bar Council of india should pass urgently a resolution not to defend any crminla involved in well known and on face proven terrorist acts.
                  > >
                  > > She would argue that as a professional and a lawyer she has duty and responsibility to ensure justice to the accused or a defendant in a court of law.
                  > >
                  > > This noble service she could do by taking up cases of poor people and victims from Indian society.
                  > >
                  > > I can refer to her several of cases of victimized women and children in Mumbai itself and Maharashtra so she can satisfy her noble thirst.
                  > >
                  > > Such money greedy,self seeking and unethical people practising law are biggest threats to Indian society.A large numner of lawyers of India are out of control and behaving like white collar goons.
                  > >
                  > > Ajmal Kassab is not Indian citizen nor he has entered India on valid travel documents and visa and hence has no rights in this country.His acts have been barbaric and savage and hence he has no claim on human rights too.Such a mad dog and outright criminal should be hanged fastest possible.As regards possibility of him being victimised, he was caught red handed in open public eye on road by police while on terrorist assignment and in action, in India.What more proof is needed? Indian judiciary should stop fraudulent trials and show of equity etc and hang him without wasting much time.
                  > >
                  > > Courts should not overlook point that they are having huge backlogs and are not delivery justice to Indian citizens for decades.They are hardly doing anything to improve situation.Shameless ly cases are dragged by them for decades.
                  > >
                  > > Hence their talking of doing justice and fairness is laughable.
                  > >
                  > > Indians should stop acting hypocrites and eliminate criminal elements from outside and within Indian society.Afzal guru should be immediately hanged. Supreme Court of India should put maximum time celiling for han ging a convict from date of order.It should not be left to political manipulations.
                  > >
                  > > I condemn this lady's malafied motives to make hay while crime shines attitude.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > The lawyers in this country should start behaving properly, stop delaying cases and start charging reasonable fees.They should not take their third class and politicised Bar associations for granted for seeking cover for their misconduct and beimaani.
                  > >
                  > > Enough is enough.
                  > >
                  > > No lawyers in country should defend known criminals, terrorists,corrupt government officers caught in bribery and corruption acts and hard core history sheeters.
                  > >
                  > > Our legal system is built to ensure convction only by convincing evidence collected by prosecution. Hence there is built in saftey in courts against even undefended accuszed persons.Lawyer is not really needed.Only judges have to act more allert and responsibly when a person is not defended by a black coat.This judge of Kasab acn do same.
                  > >
                  > > Let me remind lawyers of this country that they are turning blind eye to all foul acts being done by people in their fraternity and interpreting their code of conduct wrongly.
                  > >
                  > > A lawyer's professional duty is to defend innocent and not the guilty.Their duty is to bring justice to people and not avoid justice.They should help courts find oput and opunish the guilty ,even their own client.To delay cases and manipulate facts is worse than prostitution. It is criminal act.
                  > >
                  > > Unfortunately the large number of greedy and corrupt elements having entered our third rate legal education system and Indian courts are doing just the opposite of what they should.
                  > >
                  > > Before people loose their patience, lawyers should start behaving.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Prof R K Gupta
                  > > www.indiaforce. org
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
                  > >
                  >
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