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  • john power
    Dec 18, 2010
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      thats my boat


      the owners had #24 from amherst NH. great guys

      The boat is in awesome shape. some moitsture in the deck, gonna truck it to my house next winter and dry here out,  but new bottom job, new rudder bearings, new mainsail, new electronics, engine overhaul and more
      all this for 27k

      I am moving the boat to LIS next spring, back to Salem MA in a few years

      regards  

      JP
      On Dec 18, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Roy Briscoe wrote:

      JP,
       
      Where did you find your J28? I was talking with my neighbor at the boat yard yesterday, he said he had someone coming to look at his Tartan 34-2 and that person had just sold his J28. The J28 owner was from Amherst, NH.
       
      Roy
       


      To: J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
      From: sailingmaster@...
      Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 03:59:44 +0000
      Subject: [J28Sailors] Re: Genoa question

       
      Ill be in Long Island sound...maybe we should race! or rendezvous next summer

      I cant wait to get my boat in the water in spring

      JP

      --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jfws88@...> wrote:
      >
      > John,
      > 
      > I sail with a 135 all season, that is until the last race when I put up my 105. I've used this sail up to 25 knots (reefed main) with no problems. Only once did I get caught outa control but that was my main trimmer falling asleep at the switch (another story).
      > 
      > I have rolled it a couple of times but never liked the way the boat felt or the sail looked. The boat will handle alot sail in a blow.
      > 
      > My next sail will be a 150 that will be spec'd to handle up to 15knots.
      > 
      > My main goal with the 150 is to get better pointing, my biggest problem when racing. Good luck.
      > 
      > John W.
      > 
      > --- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, Bob Ryan <rryan14@> wrote:
      > >
      > > John,
      > > 
      > > I'd stay with a 135%, and if you can afford it, an asymmetrical spinnaker
      > > for the really light air. The J28 is a very good light air boat because of
      > > the large main. From 15-20 knots, we might reef the genoa a little bit
      > > since it is so easy to do. Over 20, the main usually needs to be reefed
      > > depending upon your crew weight.
      > > 
      > > A furled genoa is necessarily distorted - still functional, but not the
      > > ideal sail shape. I'd be concerned that a 150 would spend a lot of its
      > > life partially furled (I have no experience, so maybe I shouldn't say
      > > this). I don't know LIS but I cannot imagine it is that different than
      > > Marblehead. I never really wanted a larger genoa - but I did want an
      > > asymmetrical spinnaker.
      > > 
      > > -Bob
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Thomas Quinlan <quinla_t@>wrote:
      > > 
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > John,
      > > > If I were staying with one roller furling sail for a broad wind range that
      > > > included frequent sailing in breezy conditions, I would stay with the
      > > > standard 135% headsail. It's slow as the wind drops below ten knots, but is
      > > > still easy to handle as the wind gets over twenty.
      > > > Summer winds on Lake Pontchartrain where I sail are usually very light, so
      > > > I do also have a roller furling 145% that I use when I know I'll be sailing
      > > > in winds under 15 knots. At that point it's still great off the wind, but
      > > > starts to be a hand-full upwind. I also use this as my #1+ sail off the
      > > > roller furler when racing.
      > > > My #1 non- furling sail for racing is a 155% and seems to work pretty well
      > > > up to about 12 knots. I have a blade for racing, but get almost no use out
      > > > of it (unless you're racing, going upwind, in 25 knots +, it's not worth the
      > > > trouble).
      > > >
      > > > The fractional rig means you get a lot of power off the main, so the
      > > > smaller 135% sail doesn't hurt you as much in light air as it would on a
      > > > masthead rig. Also, since its fractional, its a lot easier to handle in a
      > > > big breeze than a masthead sail. Like the ads used to say for this boat,
      > > > for short handed cruising, when the wind gets up over 25 Knots, just roll up
      > > > the jib, take a big pull on the back stay and keep truckin'.
      > > >
      > > > I've owned my J/28 since '97 (built in '86), and still haven't found a boat
      > > > I like better for the kind of sailing I do, which is mostly short handed
      > > > day-sailing and club racing, with occasional overnight and short cruises
      > > > with my wife.
      > > >
      > > > Enjoy!
      > > >
      > > > Tom
      > > > # 22 Voodoo Child
      > > >
      > > > ------------------------------
      > > > *From:* J. Smith <jason3317@>
      > > > *To:* J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
      > > > *Sent:* Tue, December 7, 2010 3:50:55 AM
      > > > *Subject:* Re: [J28Sailors] Genoa question
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > The #1 on Compass Rose is a 145%. I just ordered a #2, which will be ~115%
      > > > and become my primary headsail.
      > > >
      > > > I find that the 145 is nice for 0-10 knots.
      > > >
      > > > Get a rope (or foam) luff to help with shaping when partially rolled up.
      > > >
      > > > I am using eVolution sails out of Easton, MD. They are terrific, good
      > > > service and great prices.
      > > >
      > > > Jason
      > > > ------------------------------
      > > > *From: *"John" <thistle4002@>
      > > > *Sender: *J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
      > > > *Date: *Sun, 05 Dec 2010 20:40:20 -0000
      > > > *To: *<J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com>
      > > > *ReplyTo: *J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com
      > > > *Subject: *[J28Sailors] Genoa question
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > IM getting close to becoming a bona fide member of this group. About to
      > > > pull the trigger on a boat
      > > >
      > > > Another question...Having sailing racing dinghys my whole life, all with
      > > > one strictly sized jib, I am curious about people opinions on different
      > > > sized genoas (Probably the first real big purchase for this boat will be new
      > > > headsails)
      > > >
      > > > First question, with roller furling, why do people still ownd 100, 135 and
      > > > 150% sails?
      > > >
      > > > Second what is the best size, if you can only own one? I will probably do
      > > > most of my sailing single handed on Long Island sound (any other 28s out
      > > > there? I know of one in Black Rock)
      > > > I have been told by DOYLE to get the bigger sail, but cruising friends or
      > > > mine say that if i need to partially roll it up, it will distort. My
      > > > thinking was to get a 135 and keep and assym spinnaker on board for downwind
      > > > and lite air days (realistically, if the wind is light on Western LIS and
      > > > the TIDE is ebbing, I will be setting the 100%Yanmar and trimming the cooler
      > > > heavily!)
      > > >
      > > > Thanks again to all. I have gotten a ton of great advice from this group
      > > >
      > > > JP
      > > >
      > > > 
      > > >
      > >
      >




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