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  • bella_lucia_da_verona
    Hi all, I keep saying this but...I needed a new list like I need a hole in the head, but, what can I say...I can t help myself! :) My name is Bella Lucia da
    Message 1 of 8 , Apr 22, 2002
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      Hi all,

      I keep saying this but...I needed a new list like I need a hole in
      the head, but, what can I say...I can't help myself! :)

      My name is Bella Lucia da Verona, (SCA) and I know at least a couple
      of you from other lists. (HI!)

      I've been researching Venetian clothing for about one and a half
      years now, and sewing for about a year (although for financial
      reasons I've only made four Venetian dresses. My first event was in
      April 2001, one year ago almost. I specialise (a dirty word I know)
      in 16th century Venetian clothing, and I have a website dedicated to
      the research and design side of making Venetian garb. Currently (when
      I'm not sewing for an event) I'm working on other pages on
      construction, accessories, courtesans etc. Yes, I have a courtesan
      persona, and a courtesan list.

      I have read all the past messages and noticed some interest in Venice
      and courtesans, so if anyone has any questions I'll be happy to do my
      best to answer them. Until then I happily lurk and enjoy this Italian
      obsession we share.


      Bella
    • aubergine_dreams
      welcome Bella, I am honored to have you in my group! It is me Cilean! Everyone?? this lady is wonderful and she is very knowledgable and please make her feel
      Message 2 of 8 , Apr 22, 2002
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        welcome Bella,


        I am honored to have you in my group! It is me Cilean!

        Everyone?? this lady is wonderful and she is very knowledgable and
        please make her feel welcome. I am only sorry I can't come down to
        Australia in July for the coronation. We have been planning but my
        finances did not come through I was so hoping to meet you !!!


        Cilean

        In italianrenaissancecostuming@y..., "bella_lucia_da_verona"
        <bella_lucia_da_verona@y...> wrote:
        > Hi all,
        >
        > I keep saying this but...I needed a new list like I need a hole in
        > the head, but, what can I say...I can't help myself! :)
        >
        > My name is Bella Lucia da Verona, (SCA) and I know at least a
        couple
        > of you from other lists. (HI!)
        >
        > I've been researching Venetian clothing for about one and a half
        > years now, and sewing for about a year (although for financial
        > reasons I've only made four Venetian dresses. My first event was in
        > April 2001, one year ago almost. I specialise (a dirty word I know)
        > in 16th century Venetian clothing, and I have a website dedicated
        to
        > the research and design side of making Venetian garb. Currently
        (when
        > I'm not sewing for an event) I'm working on other pages on
        > construction, accessories, courtesans etc. Yes, I have a courtesan
        > persona, and a courtesan list.
        >
        > I have read all the past messages and noticed some interest in
        Venice
        > and courtesans, so if anyone has any questions I'll be happy to do
        my
        > best to answer them. Until then I happily lurk and enjoy this
        Italian
        > obsession we share.
        >
        >
        > Bella
      • Bella
        ... wrote: welcome Bella, I am honored to have you in my group! It is me Cilean! Everyone?? this lady is wonderful and she is very knowledgable and please make
        Message 3 of 8 , Apr 23, 2002
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          --- aubergine_dreams <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
          wrote:

          welcome Bella,

          I am honored to have you in my group! It is me Cilean!

          Everyone?? this lady is wonderful and she is very
          knowledgable and please make her feel welcome. I am
          only sorry I can't come down to Australia in July for
          the coronation. We have been planning but my
          finances did not come through I was so hoping to meet
          you !!!<<<<


          Thank you Cilean for the warm welcome and kind words.
          :) I'm not sure if I'll make it to Coronation myself -
          I'm hoping, but finances will be very tight the next
          couple of months. I do so want to be there for the
          crowing of our first King and Queen! :)

          Bella



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        • scarlet_hunter
          Welcome to the group Bella! Can you post your web page link please? I am very interested in looking at it. Kate ... couple ... to ... (when ... Venice ... my
          Message 4 of 8 , Apr 23, 2002
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            Welcome to the group Bella! Can you post your web page link please?
            I am very interested in looking at it.

            Kate'


            --- In italianrenaissancecostuming@y..., "bella_lucia_da_verona"
            <bella_lucia_da_verona@y...> wrote:
            > Hi all,
            >
            > I keep saying this but...I needed a new list like I need a hole in
            > the head, but, what can I say...I can't help myself! :)
            >
            > My name is Bella Lucia da Verona, (SCA) and I know at least a
            couple
            > of you from other lists. (HI!)
            >
            > I've been researching Venetian clothing for about one and a half
            > years now, and sewing for about a year (although for financial
            > reasons I've only made four Venetian dresses. My first event was in
            > April 2001, one year ago almost. I specialise (a dirty word I know)
            > in 16th century Venetian clothing, and I have a website dedicated
            to
            > the research and design side of making Venetian garb. Currently
            (when
            > I'm not sewing for an event) I'm working on other pages on
            > construction, accessories, courtesans etc. Yes, I have a courtesan
            > persona, and a courtesan list.
            >
            > I have read all the past messages and noticed some interest in
            Venice
            > and courtesans, so if anyone has any questions I'll be happy to do
            my
            > best to answer them. Until then I happily lurk and enjoy this
            Italian
            > obsession we share.
            >
            >
            > Bella
          • Bella
            ... Welcome to the group Bella! Can you post your web page link please? I am very interested in looking at it.
            Message 5 of 8 , Apr 23, 2002
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              --- scarlet_hunter <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

              Welcome to the group Bella! Can you post your web page
              link please?
              I am very interested in looking at it.<<<<<

              Thanks Kate, sure - it's in my signature file. :)

              Oh, and I forgot to mention that I hail from the
              Barony of Innilgard, Lochac, which in mundane terms is
              Adelaide, South Australia.


              =====
              Lady Bella Lucia da Verona
              Innilgard, Lochac

              Clothing in 16th Century Venice
              http://au.geocities.com/bella_lucia_da_verona
              Owner, Courtesan E-mail Group
              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Courtesan

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            • elizarosev
              Hi Bella, So happy to share with you! I just joined your Courtesan group a couple of days ago.Thank you or all the time you dedicate in your research for all
              Message 6 of 8 , Apr 23, 2002
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                Hi Bella,
                So happy to share with you! I just joined your Courtesan group a
                couple of days ago.Thank you or all the time you dedicate in your
                research for all of us to enjoy and benefit from. We corresponded a
                few time when I first started my Venetaian. Thanks again for your
                help. I'll let you know how the hair turns out.If it aint right I
                wont wear it. Here goes.......
                Elizabeth
              • Bella
                ... Hi Bella, So happy to share with you! I just joined your Courtesan group a couple of days ago.Thank you or all the time you dedicate in your research for
                Message 7 of 8 , Apr 23, 2002
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                  --- elizarosev <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                  Hi Bella,
                  So happy to share with you! I just joined your
                  Courtesan group a couple of days ago.Thank you or all
                  the time you dedicate in your research for all of us
                  to enjoy and benefit from. We corresponded a few time
                  when I first started my Venetaian. Thanks again for
                  your help. I'll let you know how the hair turns out.If
                  it aint right I wont wear it. Here goes.......
                  Elizabeth<<<<<


                  Hi, and thanks for the kind words. I only wish I could
                  dedicate *more* time to research - there hasn't been
                  much time lately. But then if I don't go to Coronation
                  in July I'll have some free time after the feast on
                  the 4th May so might get a lot more done on the
                  "how-to-sew-Venetian-clothing" side of things for my
                  site.

                  As for the hair - I hope it works out, but even if it
                  doesn't go for it. More of us should be attempting
                  this cool style. :) I've only seen one lady do it and
                  it wasn't too convincing simply because the cones were
                  the wrong shape - they were too pointy. But it still
                  looked cool. :)

                  Oh, that reminds me, in the message archive I saw some
                  discussion as to whether only courtesans wore the
                  horned hairdo - the answer is no. Most ladies of the
                  high nobility wore it, and courtesans dressed just
                  like them. Here are some of Vecellio's woodcuts and an
                  engraving and portrait for your viewing pleasure:

                  "Young married woman of Venice in Acension holiday
                  dress"(small horns but still there):
                  <http://www.costumes.org/history/broderbund/boo/BOO50203.gif>

                  "Young married woman of the Venetian nobility":
                  <http://www.costumes.org/history/broderbund/boo/BOO50204.gif>

                  "Winter costume of Venetian noblewomen and wealthy
                  ladies" (once again, smaller horns):
                  <http://www.costumes.org/history/broderbund/boo/BOO50205.gif>

                  "Venetian noblewoman dressed for visiting S.Pietro di
                  Castello during Lent":
                  <http://www.costumes.org/history/broderbund/boo/BOO50206.gif>

                  "Venetian noblewoman dressed for a public
                  celebration":
                  <http://www.costumes.org/history/broderbund/boo/BOO50207.gif>

                  "Current dress of Venetian noblewomen":
                  <http://www.costumes.org/history/broderbund/boo/BOO50214.gif>

                  An engraving:
                  "Venetian Debutante":
                  <http://au.geocities.com/bella_lucia_da_verona/venetiandebutante.jpg>

                  A portrait (this is one of my very favourite pics):
                  "Circa 1581-1584, Domenico Robusti: Portrait of a Lady
                  in White":
                  <http://au.geocities.com/bella_lucia_da_verona/RobustiWhite.jpg>


                  Bella





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                • elizarosev
                  ... ... Those are cute little horns. I m goin for the big stuff .Then again it depends
                  Message 8 of 8 , Apr 24, 2002
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                    --- In italianrenaissancecostuming@y..., Bella
                    <bella_lucia_da_verona@y...> wrote:
                    > --- elizarosev <no_reply@y...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Hi Bella,
                    > So happy to share with you! I just joined your
                    > Courtesan group a couple of days ago.Thank you or all
                    > the time you dedicate in your research for all of us
                    > to enjoy and benefit from. We corresponded a few time
                    > when I first started my Venetaian. Thanks again for
                    > your help. I'll let you know how the hair turns out.If
                    > it aint right I wont wear it. Here goes.......
                    > Elizabeth<<<<<
                    >
                    >
                    > Hi, and thanks for the kind words. I only wish I could
                    > dedicate *more* time to research - there hasn't been
                    > much time lately. But then if I don't go to Coronation
                    > in July I'll have some free time after the feast on
                    > the 4th May so might get a lot more done on the
                    > "how-to-sew-Venetian-clothing" side of things for my
                    > site.
                    >
                    > As for the hair - I hope it works out, but even if it
                    > doesn't go for it. More of us should be attempting
                    > this cool style. :) I've only seen one lady do it and
                    > it wasn't too convincing simply because the cones were
                    > the wrong shape - they were too pointy. But it still
                    > looked cool. :)
                    >
                    > Oh, that reminds me, in the message archive I saw some
                    > discussion as to whether only courtesans wore the
                    > horned hairdo - the answer is no. Most ladies of the
                    > high nobility wore it, and courtesans dressed just
                    > like them. Here are some of Vecellio's woodcuts and an
                    > engraving and portrait for your viewing pleasure:
                    >
                    > "Young married woman of Venice in Acension holiday
                    > dress"(small horns but still there):
                    > <http://www.costumes.org/history/broderbund/boo/BOO50203.gif>
                    >
                    > "Young married woman of the Venetian nobility":
                    > <http://www.costumes.org/history/broderbund/boo/BOO50204.gif>
                    >
                    > "Winter costume of Venetian noblewomen and wealthy
                    > ladies" (once again, smaller horns):
                    > <http://www.costumes.org/history/broderbund/boo/BOO50205.gif>
                    >
                    > "Venetian noblewoman dressed for visiting S.Pietro di
                    > Castello during Lent":
                    > <http://www.costumes.org/history/broderbund/boo/BOO50206.gif>
                    >
                    > "Venetian noblewoman dressed for a public
                    > celebration":
                    > <http://www.costumes.org/history/broderbund/boo/BOO50207.gif>
                    >
                    > "Current dress of Venetian noblewomen":
                    > <http://www.costumes.org/history/broderbund/boo/BOO50214.gif>
                    >
                    > An engraving:
                    > "Venetian Debutante":
                    >
                    <http://au.geocities.com/bella_lucia_da_verona/venetiandebutante.jpg>
                    >
                    > A portrait (this is one of my very favourite pics):
                    > "Circa 1581-1584, Domenico Robusti: Portrait of a Lady
                    > in White":
                    > <http://au.geocities.com/bella_lucia_da_verona/RobustiWhite.jpg>
                    >
                    >
                    > Bella

                    Those are cute little horns. I'm goin' for the "big stuff".Then again
                    it depends on my handiwork doesn't it? I just finished a weekend with
                    our "Old West" group.I love the Victorian era.I am home sick playin'
                    hooky today so I think I do some playing with my hair if I can work
                    up the energy.
                    Elizabeth
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
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