Re: Italian Corset
- --- In Italian_Rennaissance_Costuming@yahoogroups.com, Cilean_69
> Looking at the picture you provided, it looks like a fringed shawl this
> woman has about her, It is not laced at all but fringed and you can
> clearly see the fringe in the "V" at the end at the back. You can
> further see how it wraps about her to the front.
> So I would not call this a corset, But more a wrapped shawl.
Perhaps "newbie" was the wrong word. I should have said new to the
group, not to garb. I've been designing my own garb for over a
As for the shawl...if it is, even that would be interesting since I
haven't seen fringed shawls from this period. Actually, I don't think
I've seen fringed shawls prior to the late 1700's! I know they became
extremely popular in the early 1800's but the only shawls I've seen
prior to the 1600's have been either sheer silk, fur stoles, or linen
shawls...all without fringe. Has anyone seen a "fringed shawl" prior
to the 18th c?
I was thinking that the corset/shawl pink thing could be a corset
based on another painting that shows a skirt tied on to the
bodice/corset and very thin ribbon like straps (that you can barely
Could the "fringe" actually be ties or a trim to hide ties? Just
throwing out some more ideas on this interesting piece.
Also, someone pointed out that this is all art. I've heard that many
time before but even art is based on reality. The most abstract of
our time contains objects that we know and understand...just a new way
of examining them. :-)
> I do fixed cuffs on men's shirts mostly because the guys I've sewnfor
> specify they want them that way, but for myself I've even usedIf you didn't tell, chances are no one would know.
> *ducking and running for cover* elastic for self-gathers--which I no
> longer use, I hastily add :~)
Peggy (who uses elastic for button loops and has at least 2 gowns with
snaps, please don't tell)