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Connaught Journal; Jan 17, 1825; Trial of Hanly Pt II

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  • Cathy Joynt Labath
    [continued...] THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, Monday, January 17, 1825 Matt Molony sworn and examined by Counsellor O Gorman - Lives at OBrien s bridge, and
    Message 1 of 1 , Mar 26, 2007

      Galway, Monday, January 17, 1825

      Matt Molony sworn and examined by Counsellor O'Gorman - Lives at OBrien's
      bridge, and recollects the 29th of last month; saw prisoner that day at
      George Ryan's house; besides the prisoner and witness there were present
      William George, John Ryan, James Ryan and William Bourke; they were in the
      room before he went in; Hanly asked witness was he a man, and John Ryan
      answered he was, for he had four daughters - (a laugh) - Hanly asked him was
      he a gay fellow? - Witness replied that he did not understand this; Hanly
      answered, "if you were a gay fellow, or in conspiracy with gay fellows, the
      first question would be asked is, "are you a gay fellow?;" You should in
      return reply, "you are a queer fellow;" William George asked him who gave
      him the information, or who sent him there; Hanly said, it was the Dean at
      the confession, who desired him to make as many gay fellows, or men, as he
      could; witness asked "is there to be an oath in question; Hanly replied,
      yea; and in less than two minutes after, witness saw a book in Hanly's hand,
      which he snatched and threw into the fire; heard no conversation between
      Hanly and Wm. George; as well as he recollects it was about eight o'clock;
      witness was the last person who came into the room; they had some porter
      before them; when the book was thrown into the fire witness went away; James
      Ryan had gone out before him.
      Cross-examined by Mr. Green - Hanly, the two Ryans, George, and Bourke
      went in the room before witness; was before Mr. Bouchier next day, and told
      him that the fire he had just now mentioned were in the room where he came
      in, and swore to it; witness reads and witness keeps a public house, and
      lives in the county Limerick side O'Brien's bridge; James Ryan lives with
      him sometimes; heard Ryan and Hanly had a fight the night before; knows of
      no other ? between them; Ryan told him he had a dispatch the night before
      with Hanly on account of the latter tendering him an oath; does not
      recollect that Hanly tripped a man in the streets of O'Briens bridge; cannot
      say positively whether he did or he did not; did not tell Hanly he was an
      officious person; heard Ryan was in the Bridewell at O'Brien's-bridge on a
      fair day; was not more than 20 or 25 minutes in the room before the book was
      produced; that was the extreme length of time he remained; does not know who
      brought in the book when Hanly got it; Hanly made some objections to Ryan's
      remaining in the room; - thinks there was no other reason for Ryan's leaving
      the room; Hanly appeared pretty hearty; witness came after James Ryan, his
      lodger, to bring him home. Ryan left the room before witness, and was not
      there when the oath was produced; does not know what made Ryan leave the
      room ,or had he seen him for three hours before he entered the room; witness
      was not drunk; nor were William George or John Ryan; Hanly could speak very
      well, but appeared a little drunk; James Ryan was the only man with which he
      had any communication until he saw Major Bouchier; talked with others since
      he made the information; knows Mr. O'Sullivan, of the Bridge and talked to
      him of his dispositions; had a conversation with Mr. O'Sullivan, when no one
      but James Ryan was present; Mr. O'Sullivan asked him what had happened, when
      witness told him all he knew about it; witness is a publican; has drink at
      home and is not in the habit of drinking elsewhere; left his house to look
      for Ryan; did not often go to look for him before, but did so that night as
      he witnessed he was hearty.
      In reply to the Court - Heard no oath proposed by Hanly, but
      apprehending that an oath was about to be administered, he threw the book
      into the fire; heard no person desiring to bring it in nor did he see it
      till Hanly produced it; did not see Bourke leave the room while he was
      there; James Ryan left the room before the book was produced, and witness
      did not see him return; witness remained in order to hear what Hanly had to
      say, and what the company could pick out of him; Hanly spoke very well
      although he appeared to be hearty; does not think Hanly could have
      administered an oath while he was in the room without his knowledge; had a
      suspicion that the party was there in order to get something out of Hanly.
      In answer to questions from Magistrates - Hanly wore his military
      attire, but witness did not see him take off his coat; cannot say what
      occurred after he left the room; the book was a small one, and had a cover
      like a prayer book, it was a bound book, but witness cannot say if it were
      tied or did not expect to meet Hanly at George Ryan's house, although he
      heard that they expected to pick something out of him; went there for Ryan,
      suspecting that he was there; thinks that the usual mode with country people
      to elicit a secret from one another is to give persons liquor; James Ryan
      was not noisy the night in question; if George had obliged Ryan to leave the
      room, witness would have seen it; left the room immediately after he threw
      the book in the fire, as he dreaded to remain there; Hanly had the book on
      him then; witness had no curiosity to examine its contents; did not hear
      John Ryan say a word but what he spoke about witness's daughter, nor did
      Bourke say or do any thing; he went to George Ryan's to bring James Ryan
      home, and not to elicit any thing out of Hanly.
      William George recalled and examined by Mr. Blackburne - He returned from
      Major Bouchier about an hour after eight; put up his horse and sent Bourke
      for Hanly; went to George Ryan's in less than half an hour, but did not see
      James Ryan in the interval between his coming from Major Bouchier, and his
      going to meet Hanly; cannot recollect if the book Hanly produced had a cover
      or not.

      [to be continued...]

      Cathy Joynt Labath
      Ireland Old News
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