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Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door

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  • Reza Modarres
    Ba Salame mojadad,   Amin jan mamnoon az inke man ra  be list site ezafe kardi. zemnan man yek peyam farsi gozashtam, albatte ba ejaze bozorgtarha. Reza
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      Ba Salame mojadad,
       
      Amin jan mamnoon az inke man ra  be list site ezafe kardi.
      zemnan man yek peyam farsi gozashtam, albatte ba ejaze bozorgtarha.
      Reza Modarres

      --- On Sat, 8/23/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@...> wrote:
      From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@...>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 2:03 AM

      Salam,

      Sohrab jan mamnoon ke tajrobiatetoon ro dar ekhtiar ma gozashtin.

      Man emrooz sobh matni ro ke Rosso jan lotf karde boodan gozashte boodan ro be onvan toozihat gozashtam, (albate chon Registration Description bayad hadeaghal 200 harf midasht manam yek khat behesh ezafe kardam ke in document ha bedard programmer hayi ke mikhan Symbian yad begiran mikhore ...) va proje ro be sorat document software i ke dar SF host mishe tain kardam. alan ke oomadam didam SF e-mail zade ke proje approve shod :-)
      Fekr konam Admin emroozi dam bahali boode zood approve karde :-)

      kholase ke fekr konam yek faz az proje ro jolo bordim, tabrik migam ;-)

      https://sourceforge .net/projects/ istg/

      va web server proje ke chon hanooz fili nadare error 404 ro bar migardoone:
      http://istg. sourceforge. net/

      agar ehtemalan nadidid in joziat proje ast ke vared kardam:
      hame inha ghabel taghyiran age matlabi bood begid. tamam emkanat ro ham darim WIKI va ...

      Amin

      sohrab asadzadeh <sasadzadeh@yahoo. com> wrote:
      salam
      khobi
      mer30 reza jan
      ma keh hamesheh hastim faghat jorat nemikonim chizi begim kenar ostaday khobi mesl shoma
      rajebeh in sitam man e kami kar kardam chon mikhastam e doneh baray iran tarahi konam keh betoneh be hamon sorat estefadeh besheh
      vali vezarat mokhaberat hematay nakard,hala bebinim khoda chi mikhad;)
      dar har hal ma khoshalin keh dostan khobi mesl shoma va aghay roso va amin va .... ro darem



      --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:
      From: Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 1:53 AM

      salam be hame,
       
      man ham voroode mojadade Sohrab jan ra be fale nik migiram va omidvaram baz harakate khobi ba ham dashte bashim.
       
      Rosso jan az javabi ke dadid motshakeram, pas digar dar in zamine moshkeli nist.
       
      Amin jan man fekr mikonam moredi ra ke Rosso aziz neveshtan khoob bashad va enshaallah ghabool khahand kard.

      Reza Modarres

      --- On Thu, 8/21/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 8:40 AM

      Salam beh doostan,
       
      - Sohrab jan khabari azetan nabood :-) Merssi az toozihatetan.
       
      - Reza jan jan mishe az ghessmat DOCUMENT yek link zad beh CODE va az CODE yek link zad beh DOCUMENT. Kheyli sherkat ha DOCUMENTATION eshan dar system hayeh bozorgi asst va CODE dar SOURCE CONTROL hayeh digar. Vali khoob in marboot beh sherkat hayeh kheyli bozorg manand Ericsson va in harfa asst. Dar Series 60 Nokia zir haman SOURCE yek /DOC darand keh documenation oon code ra migozarand.
       
      Beh ghool shoma va Sohrab jan rahat tar asst adam yek PACKAGE ra download mikonad keh hameh chiz digar darad nabayad donbal document jayeh digar beravad. Hala in jodayi document az Source ra Amin jan barayeh rafeh in moshkel keh behesh barkhordim pishnahad dadeh bood.
       
      - Hala Amin jan va Reza jan messl inkeh oon link barnameh italyiayi keh fresstadeh boodid kheyli gong va koli neveshteh bood ehtemalan mishe hamoon projeh avalieh keh say kardid begirid gereft keh hamoonja ham mishe dar document va mailing list va wiki bahss kard va jahat projeh ra tayin kard choon bazi ha migoyand dar PLANNING STAGE hasstand.
       
      Amin jan man in jomelat zir dar [1] ra sari alan neveshtam shoma agar khasstid barashoon befresstid bebinid chi migoyand va projeh ra baz mikonand.
       
      Makhsoossan kheyli gong va namafhoom neveshtam keh beshe beh sooat PLACE HOLDER keh badan tassmim migirid dar anja keh chekar mikhahid bekonid. Felan koli bashad keh digaroon ham az biroon mibinand mifahmand shoma yek karhayi dar goroh iranian (beh khossosso Iranian naneveshtam Persian neveshtam keh dardssar baratoon nashavad, choon Persian mardoom kharej az iran ra yad Persian Cat, Persian Rug o chizhayeh mammani o malooss miandazad kheyli jebheh giri nemikonand :-) ).
       
      Vali riskesh in asst keh doostan Azari o balush o koordeman etc momken asst beheshan bar bekhorad choon anha migoyand ma Irani hasstim vali zaban assliman Farsi (Persian) nisst. Dar avaz agar Persian benevissid Afghan ha va tajik ha ra ham shamel mishe keh Farsi harf mizanand vali Irani nisstand.
       
      Kholasseh har kar bekonid yeki bel akhareh in mioon momken asst khoshash nayayad. Keh bayad COMPROMISE (sazesh keh dar farsi kheyli mossbat nisst dar kharejeki oon mani manfi ra nadarad yani yek rah hali oon vassat nah inkeh ma migoyim taraf sazeshkar asst, compromise mani rah hal moteadel keh hameh razi bashand yah hameh razi nisstand vali oon vassat asst).
       
      Beh har hal agar [1] ra ghabool konand kar rah mioftad va jaryan beh pish khahad raft.
       
      Br,
      Rosso
       
       
      [1]

      1.Public Description
      Porting of Symbian training and utility applictions to Persian.
       
      2.Registration Description
      This project will try to port small Symbian utility applications to Persian so that Persian speaking people can use them on their cell phones.


      --- On Thu, 8/21/08, Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:
      From: Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 3:14 AM

      Salam,
       
      Amin jan bishtar towzih midam. ma se grooh estefade konande darim:
       
      1- barnamenevisan
      2-kesani ke mikhahand az tajrobiate ma estefade konand, yadgirandegan va ...
      3-estefadekonandega n az narmafzar.
       
      dar morede grooh 1 va 3 moshkeli nist vali dar morede groohe 2 chetor? aya anha mitavannad codeha va bahshaye ma ra peygiri konand?
      ba tashakkor
      Reza Modarres

      --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 5:05 PM

      Salam,

      >>Hala yek soal dar in goroh migozarand DOCUMENT hayeh gheyr Engelissi neveshteh shavad ?

      Fekr nemikonam ke moshkeli bashe! fekr mikonam faghat lazem daran ke toozihat proje be englisi bashe (albate motmaen nistam!) man in proje ro peyda kardam ke dar mailing listeshoon be italyayi neveshtan
      http://sourceforge. net/mailarchive/ forum.php? forum_name= plio-thesaurus

      albate proje hayi ro ke man gashtam ya bakhsh documention ro baste boodan ya khali bood, va nadidam ke document i be zaban dige bashe. albate proje ha kheili ziade va man faghat chand tash ro toonestam bebinam.

      Dar kol fekr nemikonam age toozihat avalie vazeh va kafi bashe moshkeli pish biad.

      >>benabarin bayad kooshesh konim har do ra dar yek mahal dashte bashim, dar gheyre in soorat yadgirande ba moshkel movajeh mishavad va barayash khastekonande mishavad.

      Reza jan chera mohkel be vojod miad?
      Ma linke software i ke dar vaghe ye mesal az oon amoozesh hast ro mizarim oon mitone bere va narmafzar va CODE ha ro bebine! az oon taraf age yeki az narmafzare ma khoshesh oomad mitoone downloadesh kone bedoone inke bekhad befahme chetori neveshte shode!
      be har hal man dorost motavajeh manzooretoon nashodam!

      Amin

      Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:
      Salam doostan,
       
      fekr mikonam hadafe ma az aval haman bood ke Amin jan gofte. yani YADGIRI va AMOOZESH. benabarin bayad kooshesh konim har do ra dar yek mahal dashte bashim, dar gheyre in soorat yadgirande ba moshkel movajeh mishavad va barayash khastekonande mishavad.
      pas be nazare man bayad rooye SF bishtar kar konim ta bebinim perojeye moshabeh ba kar ma dar aan vojood darad ya na? agar voojood darad edame dahim va dar gheyre in soorat bestare digari ra entekhab konim.

      Ba tashakkor
      Reza Modarres

      --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 2:35 PM

      Salam,

      Rosso jan mamnoon az nazarate khobetoon.

      Hamoontor ke goftdid nemishe dar SF chand proje ro ba ham jolo bord ya yeki bad az digari vali dar yek mahal. hadaf ma az in gorooh alave bar inke mikhaym khodemoon amoozesh begirim, mikhaym matalebe amoozeshi ro ham tahie konim ta ha bedard estefade haye badi khodemoon bokhore ham be kasi ke taze mikhad shoroo kone komaki bashe.(albate in nazar mane! age doostan nazari daran began chon  piadesazi gorooh bar asas hadafesh hast)

      Pas in mishe 2 mission va mamooriat. barye yad gereftan khodemoon natije in shod ke proje haye amali va karbordi az sade be sakht roo ejra konim va dar tey oon amoozesh!

      Vali baraye Document neveshtan :

      Ghablan ham gofte shod ke SF 4 joor proje ro host mikone:
      1. Open Source Software Project
      2. software documentation project for software hosted on SourceForge. net
      3. documentation project for something not hosted on SourceForge. net
      4. project developing content (not software) under an Open Source license or a Creative Commons license, pertaining to an open source project.

      5. Other

      age be morede 2,3 va 4 negah konid mibinid ke baraye host document haye narm afzar ha hastan va shayad beshe dar in category  ha proje asli ro ijad konim. injori oon place holder i ke Rosso jan goftan ham ijad mishe! kole karhaye marboot be gorooh va document ha va inke rooye che projei kar beshe, dar in proje anjam mishe va proje haye amali ke dar vaghe mahsoolat gorooh hastan joda jolo miran. injori agar kasi faghat estefade konande az software hasel ham bashe mitoone bedoon dargiri ba masael fani oon ro begire va estefade kone.

      Nazaretoon chie?

      Merci,
      Amin

      Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      Salam beh Amin jan va doostan,
       
      Pass messl inkeh beh in rahati ha projeh ra baz nemikonand va oon halat amoozesh class1, class2, class3 nemishe anjam dad choon har projeh jadid bayad messl an ghablan nabashad. Halat class1, class2, class3 bayad beh soorat projectX, projectY va projectZ dar beyayad keh har kodam sakht tar shavand va afrad jadid mitonand anha ra motaleh konand va javab soalateshan hasst manand EXAMPLE directory dar SDK mishavad vali khobish in asst keh az sadeh beh sakht miravad.
       
      Engelissi ra misheh nevesht vali injoor keh hasst messl inkeh aval bayad tassmim begirid keh che barnameh i mikhayid benevissid baad mishe engelissisho nevesht.
       
      Agar dar SF dar SYMBIAN search konid list nemoneh barnameh ha ra mibinid va mibinid keh kheyli ha 1 barnameh riz bishtar nadarand va neveshteh dar hal tarahi va tassmim giri (az sal 2007). Yani kheyli sakht nemigirand vali khoob bayad yek projeh i chizi bashad.
       
      Banabarin shayad avalin ghadam in bashad keh doostan inja nazar bedahand keh che barnameh i mikhahand benevissand (mitonid list barnameh hayeh Symbian dar SF ra negah konid ya dar handango.com keh ideh behetoon bedeh). Baad har kass list yek seri barnameh ha keh dar Iran mitoneh bedard bekhoor bashad bedeh keh dar payan mitonid dar ghessmat ray giri begozarid va yeki az anha ra entekhab konid. Vaghti projeh moshakhass shood oon moghe neveshtan engelissish ham rahat mishe alan choon kheyli ghong asst moshkel asst.
       
      Hadaaf ta hala in bood keh yek PLACE HOLDER va jayi dorosst beshe keh bahssha oonja anjam begireh vali messl inkeh nemishe inha mikhahand aval projeh va hameh chiz moshakhass bashad, pass shayad behtarin rah in bashad keh aval inja bahss beshe keh che barnameh i mikhahid benvissid bad keh maloom shood beh SF raft.
       
      Nemoneh barnameh ha mitoneh massalan HTTP client/server keh kar bekhosssoi bekonad.
      Barnameh i keh SMS farsi bekhoneh va befressteh (shayad sakht bashad barayeh aval kar).
      SMS ra beh ham bechassbanad va dar yeki neshoon bedeh
      SMS ha ra copy konad az X beh Y
       
      [SMS migam choon messl inkeh dar iran SMS ziad esstefadeh mishe, hala man nemidonam chizi keh iran bedard bekhorad mitonid fekr konid va pishnehad bedid]
       
       
      Br,
      Rosso
       
       

      --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:56 PM

      Salam,

      Mesl inke moshkeli pish oomade! albate moshkel khasi nist, emrooz az SF e-mail[1] gereftam ke toozihati ro ke baraye Project dade boodam kafi nadoonestan! fekr nemikardam sakht begiran yeki 2jomle neveshte boodam.

      In ghesmat haro bayad por konim:
      1.Public Description
      ke dar toozihatesh neveshte : Your project's public description should briefly summarize your project. This will be the description site users see in search results, while browsing for projects, and will appear on your project's home page.

      2.Registration Description
      Please provide a detailed, accurate, English-language description of your project, including technical aspects which cause it to differ from similar, existing solutions. This description will not be used as a public description of your project.

      Lotf konid ye matni be engelisi baraye in do gozine pishnahad konid ke Admin haye SF ro razi beshan!

      Reza jan khahesh mikonam kari nakardam, proje ke approve shod shoma ro ham add mikonam, mamnoon.

      baghie doostan ham UserName hashoon ro befrestan.

      Amin

      1.
      "SourceForge. net" <noreply@sourceforge .net>
      wrote: To: amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com
      From: "SourceForge. net" <noreply@sourceforge .net>
      Subject: SourceForge. net Project Registration for istg Requires Your Attention
      Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:38:46 +0000

      Inadequate registration description or license detail; or additional information required
      Proposed Descriptive Name: ISTG
      Proposed Unix Name: istg

      Greetings,

      The project description you submitted was deemed inadequate for purpose of project approval by the member of the SourceForge team who reviewed your project registration. The project description you submit is used to determine whether your project qualifies for hosting on SourceForge.

      Chances are high that one of the following cases is true:

      1. You submitted a description which did not provide any description of your project (i.e. you left this field blank or filled it with garbage, repeated characters and or phrases, etc.).

      ** Note: Submitters of projects with "garbage" descriptions are documented. Another such submission will be cause for account termination.

      2. You submitted a description which did not clearly explain the purpose of your project; simply restating the name of the project is not adequate, in most cases. We often ask for additional details on project registrations for games, web-based forum systems and content management systems; how does your project differ from existing projects?

      3. You provided a very vague description for your project and did not provide any details of how your software operates, what OS platforms you intend to support, which programming languages you are using the development of your project, or the graphical nature of your application (whether your app is a command-line utility, X11-based, GTK+ or qt-based, etc.).

      This proposal must be received in the English language.

      If you are still interested in creating a project on SourceForge. net and to remedy this situation, modify your project description and re-submit for out consideration.

      Thank you,

      Daniel Hinojosa - Sr. Manager Support, SourceForge. net


      Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:
      Ba salam be hame
       
      man ham be nobe khod in ghadam jadid dar rah pishraft ra be doostan va bekhosoos Amin azaiz ke zahmat kar be dooshash boode tabrik arz mikonam.
       
      Amin jan khaste nabashi. ID man dar SourceForge "rmodarress" mibashad.
       
      ba tashakor faravan

      Reza Modarres

      --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 3:53 PM


      - Mobarek asst digeh pass projeh shoro shood :-)
       
      - Link dovom migeh hanooz projeh shoma approve nashodeh royeh in link klick konid keh ISSUE ha ra hal konid etc.
       
      Vaghti rah oftad agar khasstid mitonid dar homepage in goroh ya dar ghessmat LINK ha dar yahoo group khodeman link projeh ra begozarid va tozihati keh jaryan chisst keh doostani keh dar ayandeh miayand bedanand koja projeh ra shoro konand.
       
      Br,
      Rosso
       
       

      --- On Thu, 8/7/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 4:33 PM

      Salam,

      OK, man ye project dar SF ijad kardam be esme ISTG. albate hanuz vaaziat project be soorat PENDING hast. goftan 1 ta 3 rooz kari(az alan ke in e-mail ro mifrestam!) tool mikeshe ke approve konandesh. in yani shayad ham approve nakardan :-(

      nemidoonam aya dar in address mitunid joziat proje ro bebinid ya na?

      http://sourceforge. net/projects/ istg/

      hanooz URL aslie proje available nist ta proje roo approve konan:

      http://istg. sourceforge. net/

      doostan ham bayad UserName khodeshoon dar SF ro baraye man befrestan ta be list member ha ezafe konam.

      dige fekr konam yavash yavash mobarake dige :-)

      Amin

      Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      Man ba shoroo-e projeh movafegham. Esme projeh ham be nazar man monaseb hastesh.
      Amin jan amade bashe ke dige bayad kolangesho bezani. ;-)

      --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:49 AM

      Salam,

      Khob age nazar dige i nist, fekr mikonam dige mitunim shoroo konim?!

      ghadam badi chi mitune bashe? gorooh ro rah bendazim va dar SF raje be karash shoroo be bahs konim? fekr mikonam alan faghat ye esm kam darim "Iranian Symbian Training Group" ya ISTG chetore? ya yechizi too in maye ha!

      Amin

      Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      IDE: Carbide.C++ Express v1.3 (186MB)
      SDK: S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 2 (143MB)
      Language: Persian

      Taayid shod! ;-)



      --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 8:01 AM











      Salam,
       
      - Pass agar sazemani nisst list Roozbeh jan beh nazar khoob va kamel miresseh keh SDK 2nd edition (agar moshkelat 3rd ra nakhahid) ra tayin mikonad.
       
      - >>SDKi nist ke yejoor halat BASE ro dashte bashe? in noghte zaf nist ke mobile programming dar gooshi hayi ke Symbian OS daranand bishtar bastegi be dastgah dare ta system amel?
       
      WELCOME TO REAL WORLD (beh donyayeh vaghiat ha khosh amadid )  :-)  Symbian khoob asst choon yek sherkat asst va kheyli kontrol shodeh asst faghat dar SDK hayeh jadid feature hayeh jadid vared mishavad. Agar ba afradi keh ba J2ME kar mikonand sohbat konid mibinid cheghadar deleshan khoon asst as FRAGMENTATION (ekhtelaf va fargh beyn telefon ha keh J2ME ra miranand) choon spec J2ME kheyli generic va omomi asst har kass yek joori IMPLEMENT kardeh va makhssoosan DISPLAY va SIZE an barayeh oonhayi keh GAME minevissand kheyli aziateshan mikonad.
       
      Sherkat hayi messl Samsung, Motorola keh MATRIX dorosst hessabi etelaat biroon nemigozarand anha ba TRY and ERROR say mikonand DISPLAY size va gheyreh ra peyda konand. Baz az Nokia kami razi hasstand keh MATRIX ra chap mikonad keh inha midonand va dar CODE eshan IF ELSE hezarta bayad begozarand agar mikhahand yek CODE dar telefon hayeh mokhtalef kar konad.
       
      >>Dar morede IDE ham fekr mikoan Carbide.C++ va Eclipse gozine khoobi bashe.
       
      Movafegh.
       
      >>Dar morede zaban ham fekr mikonam mahsoolate amoozeshimoon hatman bayad be Farsi bashe, chon engelisi kam nist vali Farsi taghriban nadarim!
       
      Movafegh
       
      Br,
      Rosso
      .
       
       


       



      --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 3:53 PM




      Salam,

      Fekr nemikonam sazmani bashe ke betoone amare dorosti erae kone. chon tedad ziadi az mobile hayi ke dar iran hast be soorat ghachagh vared keshvar shode!tanha chizi ke man peyda kardam khabar zir az khabargozari eghtesadi iran e ke etelaat ziadi nemide:

      http://www.econews. ir/main1. asp?a_id= 45715

      az mobile haye Nokia faghat be N73 eshare shode!

      Man ham fekr mikonam aval kar khodemoon ro dargire masael gheyr az Symbian nakonim behtar bashe. SDKi nist ke yejoor halat BASE ro dashte bashe? in noghte zaf nist ke mobile programming dar gooshi hayi ke Symbian OS daranand bishtar bastegi be dastgah dare ta system amel? begzarim! man fekr mikonam S60 2nd Edition Feature Pack 2 ke ghablan 2.2 esmesh boode baraye shoroo behtar bashe.

      Dar morede IDE ham fekr mikoan Carbide.C++ va Eclipse gozine khoobi bashe.

      Dar morede zaban ham
      fekr mikonam mahsoolate amoozeshimoon hatman bayad be Farsi bashe, chon engelisi kam nist vali Farsi taghriban nadarim!

      Ta nazar shoma chi bashe.

      Merci,
      Amin

      Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:








      - Merssi Roozbeh jan az listat va moratab kardan an.
      Hameh ba in list movafeghand ya nazar darand telefon hayi digari esstefadeh mishavad?
       
      [Rassti yek sherkat chizi nisst keh list hameh telefon ha ra dashteh bashad? Kharej sherkat hayi khosossi hasstand keh RESEARCH va tahgighat mokhtalef mikonand va natayej ra ba gheymati miforoshand keh digeh hameh sherkat ha daneshghah ha khodeshan ehtiaj nabashad RESOURCE va energy dar in karhayeh janebi begozarand va list va etelaat ra az in sherkat ha begirand.
       
      Agar nisst az sazeman bazargani, gomrooki jayi nemishe gereft? Choon barayeh varedat telefon bel akhareh jayi sabt mishavad keh chand ta az X vared shodeh va chand ta az Y]
       
      Beh har hal agar nisst shayad hamin keh chand nafar az doostan begoyand keh atrafeshan che telefon hayi ra bishtar mibinand kafi bashad barayeh shoro.
       
      - Roozbeh jan in listi keh dadi messl inkeh aval S60 3rd edition va baad S60 2nd edition asst. Vali jaryan 3rd edition in asst keh Symbian 9.x asst va SECURITY toosh amadeh va bejayeh SIS shoma bayad CERTIFICATION barayeh SIS etan begirid keh SISX shavad ta baad afrad betonand royeh telefoneshan install konand keh kar mioftad beh certification va verisign.com keh fekr nemikonam beh Irani hayeh dakhel Iran asslan certification bedeh choon jozv EXPORT mamnoo asst va gheyreh. In mozoh ham khodash mozoyi asst keh ehtemalan bayad yeki az doostan dar iran tahghigh konand keh asslan ba Symbian 9.x va Verisign.com inha az iran mishe kar kard va che rah hayi darad.
       
      Banabarin barayeh avalin projeh shayad kami sangin bashad va behtar bashad ba S60 2nd edition kar kard in in eshkal ha ra nadarad va ta afrad rah beyoftand baad beh STEP badi beravand. Hala ta digar doostan cheh fekr konand.
       
      - Dar mored essm projeh, aya khoob asst keh yek Iranian avalesh bashad iranian_X ya iranian_y ya nah ? Agar iranian bashad afrad mifahmand keh irani ha hasstand va miayand ya nemiayand. Basstegi darad keh aya mikhahid khodemooni va irani bashad ya international va beynol malali. Agar khodemoni bashad WIKI ra mitonid beh Farsi benevissid agar International bayad beh Engelissi ham benevissid va zaban COMMUNICATION dar goroh va email ha beh engelissi bashad.
       
      Hala ta digar doostan che fekr konand. Keh agar aghayed mokhtalef bood mishe beh ray giri an ra gozasht.
       
      Br,
      Rosso
       
       

      --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 8:25 AM









      Man fekr mikonam behtare in kar ro be anvan avalin ghadam dar khode projeh dar nazar begirim va oonja edame bedim. Man be Link ke Rosso jan dade bood raftam va ba tavajoh be inke fekr miknam bazar S60 dagh tar hastesh, bar in asas Filter ro anjam dadam. Moteasefane natoonestam Site i ke amari az forosh gooshi dar Iran bashe peyda konam vali ba tavajoh be zehniati ke daram list goshi hayi ke bishtar dar dast mardom didam ro inja mizaram. (List moratab shode ast)



      Nokia N73 (S60 3rd Edition)

      Nokia N95 (S60 3rd Edition, Feature Pack 1)
      Nokia 6120 (S60 3rd Edition, Feature Pack 1)
      Nokia N70 (S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 3)
      Nokia 3250 (S60 3rd Edition)
      Nokia E50 (S60 3rd Edition)
      Nokia 6630 (S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 2)
      Nokia 5700 (S60 3rd Edition, Feature Pack 1)
      Nokia N80 (S60 3rd Edition)
      Nokia N72 (S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 3)
      Nokia 7610 (S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 1)
      Nokia 3230 (S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 1)
      Khab ba tavajoh be in list fekr mikonam S60 3rd Edition bishtar tarafdar dar Iran dare. In nazar kamelan shakhsi ast. Nazare shoma chiye?

      Darzemn fekr mikonam behtare yek esm baraye projeh bezarim, masalan RDoS60 (Research & Develop on S60) ya S60Freak ;-). Ino ham lotafan nazar bedin?

      --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 8:00 AM









       
      >Hala barey AKHARIN marhale fekr konam bayad moshakhas konim ke az che SDKi va >che IDE estefade konim. va kolan abzar hayi ro ke lazem darim ba ham hamahang >konim. bad dige be omid khoda shoroo konim.
       
      - Ehtemalan in har chand sal yek bar momken asst nessbat beh sharyet rooz fargh konad va mitonad dar WIKI ya Mailing list oon goroh/projeh tassmim giri shavad nessbat beh sharayet rooz va IDE hayeh mojood.
       
      - Barayeh avalin projeh shayad kari keh mishe kard in asst keh az anja keh bishtar afrad dar Iran khahand bood, negah konid keh emroozeh che telefon hay Symbian i bishtarin esstefadeh dar Iran darad va dar dasstress omom mibashad. List telefon hayeh shomareh 1 ta 3 ya 1 ta 5 keh forosh miravad dar iran ra negah konid baad beh link zir berid:
       
      http://www.forum. nokia.com/ devices/matrix_ all_1.html
       
       
      Dar an in telefon ha ra peyda konid. Baad dasst chap negah konid in telefon ha che SDK i ra esstefadeh mikonand massalan :
       
      Operating System:
      Symbian OS v8.1a
       
      Developer Platform:
      S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 3
       
      Baad dar site Nokia bebinid keh in SDK ra barayeh che IDE i darand aya VC++ v6.0 asst barayeh ECLIPSE/CARBIDE asst ya VC .NET etc.
       
      Baad bebinid kodoom IDE ehtemalan majani ya Open Source asst va ya rahat dar dasstress hameh asst.
       
      Baad az in STEP ha SDK va IDE keh makhrej moshtarak hameh bashad bedasst miavarid. In kar ra mitonid inja bekonid ya avalin step projeh dar site project bashad beh onvan PRESTUDY PHASE (faz tahghighati avalieh).
       
      Beh har hal in mitoneh yek rah ressidan beh in javab bashad.
       
      Br,
      Rosso


      --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 4:12 PM




      Salam,

      Kheili sharmandeam ke inghadr dir javab midam! yek moshkel pishbini nashode pish oomad, bayad bebakhshid :-\

      Goftam baraye inke chand vaghtie kheili az windowsam estefade nakardam va behesh naresidam, baraye inke dar karhaye gorooh baram moshkel pish nayad dobare install konamesh! bad fekr kardam windows ke MBR (Master Boot Record) ro faghat baraye khodesh mikhad! va man majbooram GRUB(GRand Unified Bootloader) ro dobare FIX konam behtar ine ke version jadid UBUNTU (8.04) ro ham install konam! vali ba tavajoh be moshkeli ke hamishe WinModem ha ba Linux dashtan natunestam ta emrooz Driver Modem ro peyda konam va rash bendazam! dar verion haye dige moshkeli nabood vali chon too in version kernel Linux sari bad az enteshar 8.04 update shode bood, driver ha baraye oon noskhe az kernel bood! kholase inke sharmande doostan shodam!

      Rosso jan mamnoon az toozihatetoon, man ham hamishe tarsam in bud ke karo kond nakonam (bishtar az
      in?!?! :-\)

      Hala barey AKHARIN marhale fekr konam bayad moshakhas konim ke az che SDKi va che IDE estefade konim. va kolan abzar hayi ro ke lazem darim ba ham hamahang konim. bad dige be omid khoda shoroo konim.

      Merci va baz ham bebakhshid,
      Amin

      Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:







      Ba Salam be doostan,
       
      Bale hamantor ke Rosso jan goftand man ziad ACTION hastam vali na 100% ! taghriban 70%.
       
      ba nazzare Rosso jan ham baraye shoro movafegham. ehtemalan in moshkel ra gorohhaye digar ham dashteand va SF baraye aan rahi darad, vali ta varede goad nashavim nemitavanim anha ra beshenasim.
       
      be har hal man montazere nazarate khoob shoma khaham bood ta bebinim chegoona mitavanim kar ra aghaz konim.
       

      Ba tashakor
      Reza Modarres

      --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:18 PM













      >Yadame too yeki az dars haye mohandes Salmanzade dar ITC(nemidoonam Symbian >bood ya UML?) dashtan, goftan (age dorost yadam bashe) adam ha be 4 daste taghsim >mishan ke ya fisoofane raftar mikonan ya action hastand 2 daste dige ham tarkibi az in >do hastand. baz age doroost yadam bashe oonayi baraye proje monaseb tar hastan ke >hardo ro dashte bashan vali action bishtar(?!) hala man fekr mikonam shayad yekam >ziadi filsoofane raftar mikonam! nemidoonam!!

      Che khoob Amin jan yadateh, man khodam yadam rafteh bood :-)
      Areh tahghighati keh anjam dadand beh in natijeh ressidand keh 4 goroh hasstim yeki manand falssafeh dan dosst darand hameh mavared ra dar nazar begirand ghabl az inkeh dasst beh kari bezanand. Massalan agar zabti barayeh mashin mikharand ya telefoni, televisioni mikharand ta zamani hameh ketabche rahnamashoo nakhondand dasst behesh nemizanand.
       
      Yek goroh digar keh ACTION hasstand ketabche rahnama ra miandazand kenar inghadar ba dokmeh ha bazi mikonand ta karash ra yad begirand. Va do goroh digar beyn inha yek yeki nazdik tar beh goroh aval digari nazdik tar beh goroh dovom.
       
       
      Team va projeh i moafagh asst keh az in 4 goroh had aghal yeki dar team bashad. Ekhtelaf aghideh dar projeh ziad bevojod miayad choon yeki migoyad aval hameh javaneb ra negah konim digari migoyad agha bikhial darim vaght talaf mikonim sari bashid hameh moatal hasstand va gheyreh va momken asst beh daava bekeshad. Vali agar har kass in ekhtelafat ra bedoonad va bedonad keh afrad dar goroh hayeh mokhtalef hasstnad va beh har kodam ehtiaj asst va beh aghayed hamdigar ehteram begozarand va COMPROMISE (Sazesh konand) keh hatman hameh karha nabayad 100% oonjoor keh anha mikhahand pish bereh va shayad 70% oonjor keh mikhahand va digari ham sazesh konad dar kool kar khoob pish mireh.
       
      Mamoolan migoyand ba oon goroh aval projeh ra shoro konid keh beh hameh javaneb negah konand vali agar hamishe projeh dasst in goroh bashad hichvaght kari anjam nemishe va faghat beh harf o bahss keshideh mishe. Vaghti hameh javaneb dideh shood kam kam beh goroh dovom va sevoom va dar akhar beh goroh ACTION bayad beressad. Choon agar ba goroh ACTION shoro konid momken asst sari shoro konand khesht ha ra royeh ham gozashtan va yek dafeh mibinid Ooops sakhteman kaj raft bala va digeh ham dir shodeh majboorim haminjoor berim bala keh mishe projeh hayi keh dar kheyli keshvar ha sakhteman hayeh kaj o movaj ra dideh id ?
       
      Inja dar goroh khodeman negah konim shayad (momken asst man dorosst nagoayam hadssi migoyam, choon dorosstash bayad emtehan begirand ba yek seri soalat keh befahmand), hodoodan fekr konam keh Reza jan jozv goroh dovom ACTION bashand va shoma Amin jan goroh Aval. Hamin alan ham Reza jan darand paa beh paa mikonand keh baaba chera darid inghadar leftesh midid digeh shoro konim digeh :-)
       
      Keh COMBINATION shoma va Reza jan khoob asst keh hamdigar ra takmil mikonid barayeh shoro keh badan digar doosttan keh peyvasstand nessbat beh gorohi keh hasstand in TEAM ra kamel mikonand.
       
      - Ama dar mored khood projeh man fekr mikonam in choon yek kar tazeh va jadid asst va shayad avalin bar irani ha anjam midahand keh team open source az rah door messl fresstadan enssan beh mah ya avalin bar parvaz havapeyma kheyli chizha ra beh soorat PROTOTYPE bayad hengam anjam TRY and ERROR yad gerefteh shavad. Ta anjayi keh mishe ba PROTOTYPE kochak va TEST avalieh emtehan kard vali asslan jaryan ba anjam bedasst miayad choon ghablan kassi inkar ra nakardeh va shoma jolotar hasstid.
       
      Ehtemalan khasstid mozoat koli ra mitonid inja bahss konid vali joziat ra mitonid projeh ra shoro konid va joziat ra dar MAILING LIST in goroh donbal konid. Va dar WIKI natijeh hayi keh bedasst miavarid begozarid.
       
      Beh onvan messal projeh aval mitonad yek chiz sadeh bashad keh afrad betonand Hello World ra dar SDK install konand va baad beh telefon montaghel konand va beroonand.
       
      Baad dar WIKI massalan mitonid 5 steps bashad keh soali bashad. Massalan :
       
      1. SDK ra az koja download konam?
      2. SDK ra chegoneh install konam?
      3. Chegoneh Hello World ra compile konam?
      4. Chegoneh Hello World ra Run konam?
      5. Chegoneh Hello World ra beh telefon montaghel konam va dar anja beroonam?
      etc
       
      Agar aval soal bashad baad javab, yani javab dideh nashavad ta kassi royeh soal klick konad keh aval dar maghzash soal dorosst shavad migoyand az nazar amoozeshi assar khobi darad.
       
      Ma dar daneshgah va betoor kool dar Soed dar madaress soalat emtehani sal pish ra midahand keh roosh kar konand va tahghigh kardeh and keh yek seri Doktor ra dadeh and ketab ra bekhonand va digaran ra aval soal dadand keh massalan agar payeh rasst man dard gereft va tah pah soozesh dasht va balance khoob nabood cheh dalili darad ? baad javab ra donbal begardad va bekhonad.
       
      Natijeh dideh and keh doktor ha vared tar shodeh and dar kar ayandeshan choon dar kar mamooli ham enssan aval barash soal bevojood miayad va baad donbal javab asst. Va doktor ha kassi pisheshan miayad migoyad man dasst chapam dard mikonad fekr mikonid eshkal chisst ? Keh in soal doktor ra yad soali mibarad keh ghablan hengam tahssil dideh asst. Ta inkeh agar chand safheh mikhand keh agar dasst chap dard konad momken asst dalilash X va Y va Z bashad etc.
       
      Hala shoma ham agar khasstid mitonid az in ravesh esstefadeh konid va Wiki ra Soal javabi konid.
       
      Hamanjoor keh goftid khood rah andakhtan in projeh aval va chekar ha khoob asst chekar ha khob nisst va wiki chegoneh bashad khood yek projeh asst keh joziat mitoneh dar mailing list an bahss beshe va har kass keh beh in projeh dar ayandeh mipeyvandad mitoneh Wiki ra kamel tar va kamel tar konad.
       
      In projeh aval shayad barayeh Amin jan va Reza jan keh hello world ra midanid khassteh konandeh bashad vali bayad bedonid keh shoma rah ra barayeh digaran dar ayandeh hanvar mikonid keh BASE va oon peyeh avalieh rikhteh mishavad.
       
      Projeh baadi ra bayad chizi entekhab konid keh 10% ta 20% az an ra bedanid va baghieh jadid bashad keh halat amoozeshi va tahgighati dashteh bashad va haminjoor peleh beh peleh bala berid.
       
      Banabarin ehtemalan mitonid yeki doorozi bebind kassi nazari chizi nadarad agar nazar jadidi nabood digeh mitonid projeh ra START konid va linkash ra inja befresstid (Amin jan agar betonid dar Home Page in goroh ham begozarid) va mozoat jadid ba shoro bevojood miayad keh ghadam beh ghadam mitonid hal konid va beh halat PROTOTYPE asst keh kar ra rah miandazad keh baadan digaran mitonad kamel konand va agar aval kamel nabood OK asst mohem in asst keh kar rah beyoftad.
       
      Br,
      Rosso
       
       
       
      --- On Sun, 7/20/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 11:01 AM




      Salam,

      Khosbakhtane system i ke mikhaym azash estefade konim ba ejma tasvib shod! ;-)

      khob pas taklif yaki az masael rooshan shod va fahmidim ke hich kas ba kar dar SourceForge moshkeli nadre.

      Hala ke moshakhas shod koja kare gorooh ro anjam bedim, aya lazeme dar morede inke chtori in karo anjam bedim ham sohbat konim ya na? man ghablan ham kami dar in mored sohbat kardam ke choon in joor system ham mesl sourceforge, code hosting hastand shayad baraye ma ke mikhaym amoozeshi ham bashim be tanhayi kafi nabashe. ya agar bekhaym system karimun ro mojtama negah darim fekr mikonam bayad ye mekanism khasi ro estefade konim. chon tasmim bar in shod ke amoozesh ham janbe amali dashte bashe va dar yek proje vaghei bashe, age baraye har marhale az kar(az sade be sakht) yek proje ijad konim dar SF, matalebi ke be onvan amoozesh dar WIKI un proje migzarim (na matalebi ke marboot be khod software i ke dar nahayat toolid mishe va baraye user
      haye un software hast) in amoozesh ha parakande mishan! kari ke shayad mishe anjam dad ine ke yek proje ro be onvan proje BASE dar nazar gereft va faghat az WIKI un estefade kard va mataleb marboot be amoozesh ro unja negah dasht va ba Link mataleb mokhtalef ro be proje haye marbootashoon ertebat dad! dar vaghe khod neveshtan in document ha ham ye joor toolid mohtava be hesab miad va dar vaghe ye proje ast. albate bayad did ghavanin SF dar in mored chejoori hastand.

      Hala bebinim nazar doostan chie? aya bayad rooye in masael vaght gozasht ya na berim sare asl matlab. albate hame midoonim ke ye sakhtemoon mohkam va boland bayad peye ghavi dashte bashe, bayad tasmim begirim peyi ke sakhtim key be andaze kafi ghavi shode.

      Yadame too yeki az dars haye mohandes Salmanzade dar ITC(nemidoonam Symbian bood ya UML?) dashtan, goftan (age dorost yadam bashe) adam ha be 4 daste taghsim mishan ke ya fisoofane raftar mikonan ya action hastand 2 daste
      dige ham tarkibi az in do hastand. baz age doroost yadam bashe oonayi baraye proje monaseb tar hastan ke hardo ro dashte bashan vali action bishtar(?!) hala man fekr mikonam shayad yekam ziadi filsoofane raftar mikonam! nemidoonam!!

      montazer nazarat shoma hastam,
      Amin

      Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:







      ba salam
       
      man fekr mikonam digar jaye bahs nabashad, behtar ast ba SF jolo berim. systemhaye dige az baazi jahat ghabele reghabat ba SF nistand.
       
      albate in nazare man ast. ta doost ke ra khahad o meylash be ke bashad.

      Reza Modarres

      --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 12:27 PM









      Pass messl inkeh Source Forge hameh chiz ra darad va mitoneh kar goroh ra rah beyandazad. Sorat kam mitoneh CONNECTION zoghali shoma :-) Amin jan ya betoor kool sorat kam dar Iran bashad ya inkeh in site hayi keh tarafdar ziad peyda konand momken asst sorat kam shavad.
       
      Vali khoob site i ham keh tarafdar ziad nadashteh bashid RISK beh zoodi az beyn raftan darad beh har hal beh ghool maroof migoyand THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH IN THE WORLD yani hich nahar majani dar jahan nisst har chiz majani yek gheymat darad keh bayad pardakht :-)
       
      Pass injoor beh nazar miresseh hameh site ha bahss shood va khobi ha va badihashoon gofteh shood agar khasstid mitonid ray giri rah beyandazid agar ham nakhasstid mitonid oon keh ferk mikonid hameh chiz ra darad entekhab konid va jaryan ra rah beyandazid.
       
      Br,
      Rosso
       

      --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 5:29 AM




      2 bare salam,

      Hamuntor ke hads mizadam mishe az WIKI ba nazar admin e proje estefade kard.

      In link ha ro bebinid :
      http://alexandria. wiki.sourceforge .net/Wiki
      http://www.wiki. sourceforge. net/help

      Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:


      Salam,

      Ozre taghsir jahate takhir!! :-)

      SourceForge ro negah mikardam, aksare proje ha Mailing list va Forum darand, chand ta ha ham WIKI dashtand. albate man proje jadid ijad nakardam vali chon yekseri az proje ha mailing list dashtan va forum ro nadshtan va aksaran WIKI nadarand fekr mikonam in dar ekhtiar Admin proje bashe ke kodum ro faal kone. albate in ehtemal ham hast ke WIKI ro khodeshon roye fazayi ke SourceFoge beheshoon dade install karde bashan. 99% motmaenam ke Mailin list va Forum ro SourceForge mide. dar kol fekr mikonam emkane estefade az WIKI ham dar SF bashe che be sorat default khode sourceforg ya inke khodemun nasb konim.

      Vali ye moshkel badi ke SourceForge dare ine ke bazi vaght ha inghadr sorat server hash payin miad ke nemishe be oon safhei ke mikhay beresi va asab khord kon mishe!! albate nemidoonam in bekhater connection zoghalie mane ya baghie doostan ham in moshkelo
      daran?!

      Merci,
      Amin

      Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:





      Ba Salam,
       
      - Barayeh hamin migoyand khob asst keh ghabl az tassmim yek mozoh ra ziad bahss kard keh hameh javaneb ra dar nazar gereft, agar bahss nakardeh boodim jaryan google va tahrim pish nemiamad va rah eshtebahi va OPTION eshtebahi ra entekhab mikardim.
       
      - Pass injoor keh goftid messl inkeh google moshkel tahrim darad vali SourceForge keh majani asst kar mikonad. Digaran pooli va majani darand vali darayeh etebar SourceForge nisstand vali momken asst FEATURE hayeh bishtari dashteh bashand. 
       
      Khoob jaryan Wiki va Mailing list chi mishe ? choon agar massalan 10 ta goroh bashad in afrad mikhahand ba ham dar tamass bashand va barayeh ham email bedahand chegoneh eghdam konand ? Hichkodam az in system ha in emkanat ra darad manand google? Ya bayad wiki va mailing ra jayeh digar jodaganeh anjam dad ?
       
      - Felan keh beh nazar miressad SourceForge shanss khoobi dar entekhab darad vali baz basstegi beh FEATURE va emkanat digar darad keh doostan chekar mikhand bekonand.
       
      - Dar ored Ray giri agar hameh yek nazar dashtand misheh bi khialash shood vali az taraf digar ray giri bad nisst keh nassl ayandeh iranian nayayand begoyand inha chera in ra entekhab kardand ? Na inkeh nassl hayeh ayandeh iranian kheyli donbal jaryan iranian_symbian ra khahand gereft ? :-)
      Vali baz bad nisst keh vaghti hameh massael bahss shood ray giri beshe keh motmaen beshim choon hameh momken asst nakhahand va ya natonand nazareshan ra mosstaghim begoyand dar ray giri migoyand dar zemn maloom mishaad keh chand nafar bidar hasstand va jaryan ra donbal mikonand.
       
      Hala mishe yek bahss kochak dar mored Wiki, Mailing list kard keh aya darand ? Aya ehtiaj asst ? Aya kafi asst keh an ra kharej az an massalan dar yahoo gorohi makhssoss har goorh anjam dad ? Bad az javab in soalat va bahss ehtemalan mishe yek ray giri 1 hafteh rah beyandazid keh yek system i entekhab shavad va kar shoro shaad.
       
      Br,
      Rosso

       


      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:26:21 AM
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door



      Salam,

      Khob mesl inke moshkel tahrim jedie! hala faghat mimune SourceForge va launchpad.net ke yek sohbate kocheki dar moredesh ghablan dashtam! shanse SourceForge bishtar be nazar mirese. aya lazeme ray giri konim?

      Amin

      Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:







      ba salam
       
      man ham do sali ast keh ozve SourceForge hastam va ta hala moshkeli nadashtam.

      Reza Modarres

      --- On Sat, 6/28/08, Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 10:22 AM








      Sourceforge moshkeli nadare va man toonestam be rahati ozv besham ghesmat haye digeye Site ham man ba moshkeli movajeh nashodam. Man fekr mikonam ba in vaziat ehtiaji be raai giri nabahse! :D



      --- On Sat, 6/28/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 9:22 PM







      In keh karha ra kharab mikonad choon hameh ba ip avaz kardan o in harfa momken asst vared nabashad.
      Site Sourceforge chi ? Aya an dar Iran kar mikonad ? Site hayeh digari keh doostan moarefi kardand chi ?
       
      Br,
      Rosso

       


      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com>
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:38:56 PM
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door







      Salam,

      Amin jan aslan be in nokte fekr nakarde boodam (Moshkel Tahrim). Moteasefane hanooz baraye man in moshkel vojood dare va vaghti man mikham ye projeh ro Download konam be in payam rooberoo misham:





      Google  
       

      Error

       

      ForbiddenYour client does not have permission to get URL ******* from this server. (Client IP address: *******)

      You are accessing this page from a forbidden country.
      Ke albate rah hayi baraye rad shodan az in Filter vojood dare vali khob hal giriye dige...

      Darzemn yek moghayese beyn Sourceforge va Google Code too link zir mitoonin bekhoonin: http://www.indicthr eads.com/ news/474/ google_code_ hosting_sourcefo rge.html


      --- On Sat, 6/28/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 3:01 AM




      Salam,

      Bazam sharmande, in emtehan haye man toolani o sakht shodan :-\

      Dar morede mozooe HeloWord va noghte shoroo, manzoore man in nabud ke az HelloWord kare team shoroo nashe faghat fekr kardam chon in service hayi ke ma entekhab kardim code hosting mikonand baraye hamchin proje i natunan emkanat lazem ro be ma bedan! ke albate alan fekr mikonam ba komak abzar haye dige i ke in service ha eraye mikonand mishe in moshkel ro ham bar taraf kard.

      Yek nokte dar morede GOOGLE CODE, age dorost yadam bashe in servise Google baraye chand vaghti Iran ro tahrim karde bud, alan moshkeli nist vali ehtemal nadare baddan dobare dastrasie user ha az Iran ro mahdood konan??

      Age service jadidi baraye moarefi nabud, man farda ray giri ro rah mindazam.

      Ghorbane shoma,
      Amin

      Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:





      - Reza jan, hala mitoonim hameh in site ha ra keh doostan moarefi kardeh va mikonand rooz akhar beh ray giri begozarim yeki ra enekhab konim.
      Felan doostan mitonand dar mored har site va khobi ha va badihash etelah bedahand keh badan keh beh ray giri gozashtim hameh dadeh ha ra dashteh bashim.

       - Agar az Amin jan ta shanbeh yek shanbeh khabari nashood agar doostan OK bashand man yek ray giri rah miandazam va essm hameh in site ha migozaram keh yek hafteh ray giri dashteh bashim. Ehtemalan mitonim agar ray giri ha pakhsh bood dar do dafeh bargozar bekonim keh dafeh dovom 2 site keh bishtar ray avardand beh final beravand. Agar az hamoon aval yeki bishtar avard mitonim beh dafeh aval kafayat konim.
       
      Br,
      Rosso

       

      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com>
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:07:13 AM
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door








      Ba salam,
       
      Rosso jan rast migooeed, man ham choon ghablan in site ra dideh boodam va meghdari ba an kar kardam, faghat khastam yek site pooli ham moarefi shode bashad, vagar na keh az haman aval ham maaloom bood keh sourceforge va google felan az hame behtarand.
       
      Ba tashakor az

      Reza Modarres

      --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 8:29 PM







      Reza jan eshkal oon site hayi keh ghablan moarefi shood makhsoossan google keh wiki, mailinglist etc darad chisst keh soragh site jadid zoho.com mikhayid beravid ?
       
      Eshkal in site hayeh gheyr maroof in asst keh inha hadafeshan mamoolan in asst keh afrad ra beh anja bekeshand vaghti tedad ziad shood ya poolish konand ya beh sherkati digar beforoshand va chand million dollar bezanand toyeh jib. Adam mimanad ba site bassteh shodeh, ya system ghofl va pooli ya forokhteh shodeh beh yek site bozorgtar va pa dar hava mimanad (nemoneh an az aval internet ta hala ziad boodeh).
       
      Vali site hayeh motabar manand google inghadar pool darand keh to in khatha nisstand va WORSE CASE dar halat bad yek tablighi chizi dasst rasst migozarand. Va hamishe messl gmail, google, map, images, youtube etc say mikonand service hashoon ra majani begozarand keh tablighat beforoshand. Vali sherkat hayeh digar majboorand baad az modati poolish konand va ya bassteh shavand ya beforoshand beh bozorgtar ha.
       
      Dar zemn google dar OPEN SOURCE kheyli faal asst va jadidan ham keh toyeh khat mobile.
       
      Beh har hal mishe ghabl az inkeh site i ra entekhab konid list in site ha ra beh ray giri gozasht va har koodam bishtar ray avard entekhab kard. Fekr konam Amin jan betoneh ray giri dar in goroh rah beyandazad agar natavanesst begoyid man rah miandazam.
       
      Br,
      Rosso

       

      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com>
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:00:16 AM
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door








      Salam,
       
      man ham ba nazare Rosso jan movafegham. bayad az haman avalin ghadam ba ham bood. baazi az afrad baraye inke rah byoftan ehtiaj be hol darand.( az jomle khodam! ) 
       
      dar morede mahale kar ham man yek site peyda kardam ke mishavad faghat yek project majani dar aan rah andakht (albate tavasote yek modir), vali be nazaram emkanate khoobi darad, mesle Forum, Wiki, Chat va gheyre. ba tartibi ke ta be haal bahs kardim mishavad baraye har kelas yek project taarif kard va yek nafar modir baraye aan gozasht.(albate in nazare man ast.)
       
      www.zoho.com
       
      baad az inke ozv shodid be in address beravid va nemoone projecti ke sakhteam bebinid.(taghriban 5 daghighe toolkeshid.)
       
      http://mobilelevel1 .projects. zoho.com
       

      Reza Modarres

      --- On Tue, 6/24/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
      To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:22 PM









      >Yek noktei ke man az vaghti tasmim gereftim ke gorooh ro interneti edare
      >konim too zehnam hast ine ke az koja va chejoori bayad shoroo kard? az
      >HelloWord? HelloWord khoobe vali ba tavajoh be abzari ke ma ghasd darim
      >azashun estefade konim (Google Code ya SourceForge va ...) kar kami
      >sakht mishe!
       
      HelloWorld faghat EXAMPLE bood keh manzoor projeh i sadeh bashad keh afrad dasst garmi shoro konand.
       
      Vali hala Hello World mitoneh beh in soorat esstefadeh shavad keh CODE keh dar SDK hasst GOAL va natijeh projeh bayad in bashad keh afrad betoonand yek SIS file dorosst konand va dar Telefon INSTALL konand va az barnameshoon akss begirand injoori:
       
      Yad migirand chetoor va az koja SDK ra install konand.
      Chetoori configure konand
      Chegoneh CODE ra compile konand
      Chegoneh SIS dorost konand
      Chegoneh SIS ra beh telefon befresstand
      Chegoneh install konand va chegoneh beroonand.
       
      Natijeh an yek WIKI mishavad dar link an Projeh keh mohtaviat an Wiki yek chizhayi to in mayeh linkhayeh zir mishavad:
       
      http://www.mashaghe l.com/symbian/ DownloadSDK. htm
       
      http://www.mashaghe l.com/symbian/ InstallSDK1. htm
       
      http://www.mashaghe l.com/symbian/ RunningApplicati on.htm

      Inha sadeh beh nazar miayad vali agar kassi anha ra anjam nadahad nemitoneh peleh badi bereh va agar ham dar in peleh ha gir konad badjoori hal adam gerefteh mishavad va asslan vel mikonad. Banabarin peleh hayeh aval mohem asst keh dorosst rafteh shavad keh doostan rah beyoftand va naomid nashavand.
       
      Projeh Klass dovom yek kam ADVANCE tar mishavad va hamintor miravad bala keh barayeh list projeh ha ham mishe doostan pishnahad bedahand va az toyeh oonha ray giri beshe keh kodam kelass dovom, kodam kelass sevoom va gheyreh shavand. Bayad projeh hayi bashad keh doostna khodeshan pishnahad bedahand keh shogh va EXCITEMENT ejrayeh an bashad va az biroon dikteh nashe, keh injoori kassi shogh ejrah nakhahad dasht.
       
      - Reza va Amin jan ehtemalan mitonid ta modati beh digar dosstan vaght bedid keh nazar bedahand agar digar nazar bishtari nabood mitonid ehtemalan yek ray giri rah beyandazid keh codoom system google ya digari barayeh in kar entekhab shavad va kar ra shoro konid va yek nafar projeh kelass aval ra rah beyandazad va web site va wiki etc an ra rah beyandazad. Gah godari ham dar in goroh az pishraft an khabari bedid keh digaran etelah peyda konand va agar mikhahand beh shoma bepyvandand. Mamoolan ta kari rah nayoftad digaran biroon good vasstadand negah mikonand, rah beyoftad baghieh ham mipeyvandand.
       
      - Hamzaman ya baad az an ham mitonid aval list yek seri projeh keh dosstan fekr mikonand barayeh kelass dovom va sevoom etc jaleb asst va mardoom az an esstefadeh mikonand rah beyandazid va baad az jam avari list yek ray giri barayeh entekhab an.
       
      Man gereftariha inghadar ziad asst keh midonam nemiressam vagarnah man ham miamadam in projeh kelass aval bebinam in Hello World ra mitonam royeh telefon rah beyandazam y

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      Ba salam beh doostan,   Beh safheh aval goroh :   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Iranian_Symbian   Etelaat dar zir [1] ra ezafeh kardam keh doosstani keh dar
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        Ba salam beh doostan,
         
        Beh safheh aval goroh :
         
         
        Etelaat dar zir [1] ra ezafeh kardam keh doosstani keh dar ayandeh mikhahand vassl shavand dar mored in goroh bedoonand.
         
        Br,
        Rosso
         
         

        [1]
        If you are serious about writing Symbian code and want to learn it by doing real examples, please feel free to join the open source project below by sending an email to Amin Mahmudian (amin_mahmudian[AT]yahoo[DOT]com):
         


        --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Reza Modarres <rmodarres@...> wrote:
        From: Reza Modarres <rmodarres@...>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 12:54 AM

        Ba Salame mojadad,
         
        Amin jan mamnoon az inke man ra  be list site ezafe kardi.
        zemnan man yek peyam farsi gozashtam, albatte ba ejaze bozorgtarha.
        Reza Modarres

        --- On Sat, 8/23/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 2:03 AM

        Salam,

        Sohrab jan mamnoon ke tajrobiatetoon ro dar ekhtiar ma gozashtin.

        Man emrooz sobh matni ro ke Rosso jan lotf karde boodan gozashte boodan ro be onvan toozihat gozashtam, (albate chon Registration Description bayad hadeaghal 200 harf midasht manam yek khat behesh ezafe kardam ke in document ha bedard programmer hayi ke mikhan Symbian yad begiran mikhore ...) va proje ro be sorat document software i ke dar SF host mishe tain kardam. alan ke oomadam didam SF e-mail zade ke proje approve shod :-)
        Fekr konam Admin emroozi dam bahali boode zood approve karde :-)

        kholase ke fekr konam yek faz az proje ro jolo bordim, tabrik migam ;-)

        https://sourceforge .net/projects/ istg/

        va web server proje ke chon hanooz fili nadare error 404 ro bar migardoone:
        http://istg. sourceforge. net/

        agar ehtemalan nadidid in joziat proje ast ke vared kardam:
        hame inha ghabel taghyiran age matlabi bood begid. tamam emkanat ro ham darim WIKI va ...

        Amin

        sohrab asadzadeh <sasadzadeh@yahoo. com> wrote:
        salam
        khobi
        mer30 reza jan
        ma keh hamesheh hastim faghat jorat nemikonim chizi begim kenar ostaday khobi mesl shoma
        rajebeh in sitam man e kami kar kardam chon mikhastam e doneh baray iran tarahi konam keh betoneh be hamon sorat estefadeh besheh
        vali vezarat mokhaberat hematay nakard,hala bebinim khoda chi mikhad;)
        dar har hal ma khoshalin keh dostan khobi mesl shoma va aghay roso va amin va .... ro darem



        --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:
        From: Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 1:53 AM

        salam be hame,
         
        man ham voroode mojadade Sohrab jan ra be fale nik migiram va omidvaram baz harakate khobi ba ham dashte bashim.
         
        Rosso jan az javabi ke dadid motshakeram, pas digar dar in zamine moshkeli nist.
         
        Amin jan man fekr mikonam moredi ra ke Rosso aziz neveshtan khoob bashad va enshaallah ghabool khahand kard.

        Reza Modarres

        --- On Thu, 8/21/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 8:40 AM

        Salam beh doostan,
         
        - Sohrab jan khabari azetan nabood :-) Merssi az toozihatetan.
         
        - Reza jan jan mishe az ghessmat DOCUMENT yek link zad beh CODE va az CODE yek link zad beh DOCUMENT. Kheyli sherkat ha DOCUMENTATION eshan dar system hayeh bozorgi asst va CODE dar SOURCE CONTROL hayeh digar. Vali khoob in marboot beh sherkat hayeh kheyli bozorg manand Ericsson va in harfa asst. Dar Series 60 Nokia zir haman SOURCE yek /DOC darand keh documenation oon code ra migozarand.
         
        Beh ghool shoma va Sohrab jan rahat tar asst adam yek PACKAGE ra download mikonad keh hameh chiz digar darad nabayad donbal document jayeh digar beravad. Hala in jodayi document az Source ra Amin jan barayeh rafeh in moshkel keh behesh barkhordim pishnahad dadeh bood.
         
        - Hala Amin jan va Reza jan messl inkeh oon link barnameh italyiayi keh fresstadeh boodid kheyli gong va koli neveshteh bood ehtemalan mishe hamoon projeh avalieh keh say kardid begirid gereft keh hamoonja ham mishe dar document va mailing list va wiki bahss kard va jahat projeh ra tayin kard choon bazi ha migoyand dar PLANNING STAGE hasstand.
         
        Amin jan man in jomelat zir dar [1] ra sari alan neveshtam shoma agar khasstid barashoon befresstid bebinid chi migoyand va projeh ra baz mikonand.
         
        Makhsoossan kheyli gong va namafhoom neveshtam keh beshe beh sooat PLACE HOLDER keh badan tassmim migirid dar anja keh chekar mikhahid bekonid. Felan koli bashad keh digaroon ham az biroon mibinand mifahmand shoma yek karhayi dar goroh iranian (beh khossosso Iranian naneveshtam Persian neveshtam keh dardssar baratoon nashavad, choon Persian mardoom kharej az iran ra yad Persian Cat, Persian Rug o chizhayeh mammani o malooss miandazad kheyli jebheh giri nemikonand :-) ).
         
        Vali riskesh in asst keh doostan Azari o balush o koordeman etc momken asst beheshan bar bekhorad choon anha migoyand ma Irani hasstim vali zaban assliman Farsi (Persian) nisst. Dar avaz agar Persian benevissid Afghan ha va tajik ha ra ham shamel mishe keh Farsi harf mizanand vali Irani nisstand.
         
        Kholasseh har kar bekonid yeki bel akhareh in mioon momken asst khoshash nayayad. Keh bayad COMPROMISE (sazesh keh dar farsi kheyli mossbat nisst dar kharejeki oon mani manfi ra nadarad yani yek rah hali oon vassat nah inkeh ma migoyim taraf sazeshkar asst, compromise mani rah hal moteadel keh hameh razi bashand yah hameh razi nisstand vali oon vassat asst).
         
        Beh har hal agar [1] ra ghabool konand kar rah mioftad va jaryan beh pish khahad raft.
         
        Br,
        Rosso
         
         
        [1]

        1.Public Description
        Porting of Symbian training and utility applictions to Persian.
         
        2.Registration Description
        This project will try to port small Symbian utility applications to Persian so that Persian speaking people can use them on their cell phones.


        --- On Thu, 8/21/08, Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:
        From: Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 3:14 AM

        Salam,
         
        Amin jan bishtar towzih midam. ma se grooh estefade konande darim:
         
        1- barnamenevisan
        2-kesani ke mikhahand az tajrobiate ma estefade konand, yadgirandegan va ...
        3-estefadekonandega n az narmafzar.
         
        dar morede grooh 1 va 3 moshkeli nist vali dar morede groohe 2 chetor? aya anha mitavannad codeha va bahshaye ma ra peygiri konand?
        ba tashakkor
        Reza Modarres

        --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 5:05 PM

        Salam,

        >>Hala yek soal dar in goroh migozarand DOCUMENT hayeh gheyr Engelissi neveshteh shavad ?

        Fekr nemikonam ke moshkeli bashe! fekr mikonam faghat lazem daran ke toozihat proje be englisi bashe (albate motmaen nistam!) man in proje ro peyda kardam ke dar mailing listeshoon be italyayi neveshtan
        http://sourceforge. net/mailarchive/ forum.php? forum_name= plio-thesaurus

        albate proje hayi ro ke man gashtam ya bakhsh documention ro baste boodan ya khali bood, va nadidam ke document i be zaban dige bashe. albate proje ha kheili ziade va man faghat chand tash ro toonestam bebinam.

        Dar kol fekr nemikonam age toozihat avalie vazeh va kafi bashe moshkeli pish biad.

        >>benabarin bayad kooshesh konim har do ra dar yek mahal dashte bashim, dar gheyre in soorat yadgirande ba moshkel movajeh mishavad va barayash khastekonande mishavad.

        Reza jan chera mohkel be vojod miad?
        Ma linke software i ke dar vaghe ye mesal az oon amoozesh hast ro mizarim oon mitone bere va narmafzar va CODE ha ro bebine! az oon taraf age yeki az narmafzare ma khoshesh oomad mitoone downloadesh kone bedoone inke bekhad befahme chetori neveshte shode!
        be har hal man dorost motavajeh manzooretoon nashodam!

        Amin

        Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:
        Salam doostan,
         
        fekr mikonam hadafe ma az aval haman bood ke Amin jan gofte. yani YADGIRI va AMOOZESH. benabarin bayad kooshesh konim har do ra dar yek mahal dashte bashim, dar gheyre in soorat yadgirande ba moshkel movajeh mishavad va barayash khastekonande mishavad.
        pas be nazare man bayad rooye SF bishtar kar konim ta bebinim perojeye moshabeh ba kar ma dar aan vojood darad ya na? agar voojood darad edame dahim va dar gheyre in soorat bestare digari ra entekhab konim.

        Ba tashakkor
        Reza Modarres

        --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 2:35 PM

        Salam,

        Rosso jan mamnoon az nazarate khobetoon.

        Hamoontor ke goftdid nemishe dar SF chand proje ro ba ham jolo bord ya yeki bad az digari vali dar yek mahal. hadaf ma az in gorooh alave bar inke mikhaym khodemoon amoozesh begirim, mikhaym matalebe amoozeshi ro ham tahie konim ta ha bedard estefade haye badi khodemoon bokhore ham be kasi ke taze mikhad shoroo kone komaki bashe.(albate in nazar mane! age doostan nazari daran began chon  piadesazi gorooh bar asas hadafesh hast)

        Pas in mishe 2 mission va mamooriat. barye yad gereftan khodemoon natije in shod ke proje haye amali va karbordi az sade be sakht roo ejra konim va dar tey oon amoozesh!

        Vali baraye Document neveshtan :

        Ghablan ham gofte shod ke SF 4 joor proje ro host mikone:
        1. Open Source Software Project
        2. software documentation project for software hosted on SourceForge. net
        3. documentation project for something not hosted on SourceForge. net
        4. project developing content (not software) under an Open Source license or a Creative Commons license, pertaining to an open source project.

        5. Other

        age be morede 2,3 va 4 negah konid mibinid ke baraye host document haye narm afzar ha hastan va shayad beshe dar in category  ha proje asli ro ijad konim. injori oon place holder i ke Rosso jan goftan ham ijad mishe! kole karhaye marboot be gorooh va document ha va inke rooye che projei kar beshe, dar in proje anjam mishe va proje haye amali ke dar vaghe mahsoolat gorooh hastan joda jolo miran. injori agar kasi faghat estefade konande az software hasel ham bashe mitoone bedoon dargiri ba masael fani oon ro begire va estefade kone.

        Nazaretoon chie?

        Merci,
        Amin

        Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        Salam beh Amin jan va doostan,
         
        Pass messl inkeh beh in rahati ha projeh ra baz nemikonand va oon halat amoozesh class1, class2, class3 nemishe anjam dad choon har projeh jadid bayad messl an ghablan nabashad. Halat class1, class2, class3 bayad beh soorat projectX, projectY va projectZ dar beyayad keh har kodam sakht tar shavand va afrad jadid mitonand anha ra motaleh konand va javab soalateshan hasst manand EXAMPLE directory dar SDK mishavad vali khobish in asst keh az sadeh beh sakht miravad.
         
        Engelissi ra misheh nevesht vali injoor keh hasst messl inkeh aval bayad tassmim begirid keh che barnameh i mikhayid benevissid baad mishe engelissisho nevesht.
         
        Agar dar SF dar SYMBIAN search konid list nemoneh barnameh ha ra mibinid va mibinid keh kheyli ha 1 barnameh riz bishtar nadarand va neveshteh dar hal tarahi va tassmim giri (az sal 2007). Yani kheyli sakht nemigirand vali khoob bayad yek projeh i chizi bashad.
         
        Banabarin shayad avalin ghadam in bashad keh doostan inja nazar bedahand keh che barnameh i mikhahand benevissand (mitonid list barnameh hayeh Symbian dar SF ra negah konid ya dar handango.com keh ideh behetoon bedeh). Baad har kass list yek seri barnameh ha keh dar Iran mitoneh bedard bekhoor bashad bedeh keh dar payan mitonid dar ghessmat ray giri begozarid va yeki az anha ra entekhab konid. Vaghti projeh moshakhass shood oon moghe neveshtan engelissish ham rahat mishe alan choon kheyli ghong asst moshkel asst.
         
        Hadaaf ta hala in bood keh yek PLACE HOLDER va jayi dorosst beshe keh bahssha oonja anjam begireh vali messl inkeh nemishe inha mikhahand aval projeh va hameh chiz moshakhass bashad, pass shayad behtarin rah in bashad keh aval inja bahss beshe keh che barnameh i mikhahid benvissid bad keh maloom shood beh SF raft.
         
        Nemoneh barnameh ha mitoneh massalan HTTP client/server keh kar bekhosssoi bekonad.
        Barnameh i keh SMS farsi bekhoneh va befressteh (shayad sakht bashad barayeh aval kar).
        SMS ra beh ham bechassbanad va dar yeki neshoon bedeh
        SMS ha ra copy konad az X beh Y
         
        [SMS migam choon messl inkeh dar iran SMS ziad esstefadeh mishe, hala man nemidonam chizi keh iran bedard bekhorad mitonid fekr konid va pishnehad bedid]
         
         
        Br,
        Rosso
         
         

        --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:56 PM

        Salam,

        Mesl inke moshkeli pish oomade! albate moshkel khasi nist, emrooz az SF e-mail[1] gereftam ke toozihati ro ke baraye Project dade boodam kafi nadoonestan! fekr nemikardam sakht begiran yeki 2jomle neveshte boodam.

        In ghesmat haro bayad por konim:
        1.Public Description
        ke dar toozihatesh neveshte : Your project's public description should briefly summarize your project. This will be the description site users see in search results, while browsing for projects, and will appear on your project's home page.

        2.Registration Description
        Please provide a detailed, accurate, English-language description of your project, including technical aspects which cause it to differ from similar, existing solutions. This description will not be used as a public description of your project.

        Lotf konid ye matni be engelisi baraye in do gozine pishnahad konid ke Admin haye SF ro razi beshan!

        Reza jan khahesh mikonam kari nakardam, proje ke approve shod shoma ro ham add mikonam, mamnoon.

        baghie doostan ham UserName hashoon ro befrestan.

        Amin

        1.
        "SourceForge. net" <noreply@sourceforge .net>
        wrote: To: amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com
        From: "SourceForge. net" <noreply@sourceforge .net>
        Subject: SourceForge. net Project Registration for istg Requires Your Attention
        Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:38:46 +0000

        Inadequate registration description or license detail; or additional information required
        Proposed Descriptive Name: ISTG
        Proposed Unix Name: istg

        Greetings,

        The project description you submitted was deemed inadequate for purpose of project approval by the member of the SourceForge team who reviewed your project registration. The project description you submit is used to determine whether your project qualifies for hosting on SourceForge.

        Chances are high that one of the following cases is true:

        1. You submitted a description which did not provide any description of your project (i.e. you left this field blank or filled it with garbage, repeated characters and or phrases, etc.).

        ** Note: Submitters of projects with "garbage" descriptions are documented. Another such submission will be cause for account termination.

        2. You submitted a description which did not clearly explain the purpose of your project; simply restating the name of the project is not adequate, in most cases. We often ask for additional details on project registrations for games, web-based forum systems and content management systems; how does your project differ from existing projects?

        3. You provided a very vague description for your project and did not provide any details of how your software operates, what OS platforms you intend to support, which programming languages you are using the development of your project, or the graphical nature of your application (whether your app is a command-line utility, X11-based, GTK+ or qt-based, etc.).

        This proposal must be received in the English language.

        If you are still interested in creating a project on SourceForge. net and to remedy this situation, modify your project description and re-submit for out consideration.

        Thank you,

        Daniel Hinojosa - Sr. Manager Support, SourceForge. net


        Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:
        Ba salam be hame
         
        man ham be nobe khod in ghadam jadid dar rah pishraft ra be doostan va bekhosoos Amin azaiz ke zahmat kar be dooshash boode tabrik arz mikonam.
         
        Amin jan khaste nabashi. ID man dar SourceForge "rmodarress" mibashad.
         
        ba tashakor faravan

        Reza Modarres

        --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 3:53 PM


        - Mobarek asst digeh pass projeh shoro shood :-)
         
        - Link dovom migeh hanooz projeh shoma approve nashodeh royeh in link klick konid keh ISSUE ha ra hal konid etc.
         
        Vaghti rah oftad agar khasstid mitonid dar homepage in goroh ya dar ghessmat LINK ha dar yahoo group khodeman link projeh ra begozarid va tozihati keh jaryan chisst keh doostani keh dar ayandeh miayand bedanand koja projeh ra shoro konand.
         
        Br,
        Rosso
         
         

        --- On Thu, 8/7/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 4:33 PM

        Salam,

        OK, man ye project dar SF ijad kardam be esme ISTG. albate hanuz vaaziat project be soorat PENDING hast. goftan 1 ta 3 rooz kari(az alan ke in e-mail ro mifrestam!) tool mikeshe ke approve konandesh. in yani shayad ham approve nakardan :-(

        nemidoonam aya dar in address mitunid joziat proje ro bebinid ya na?

        http://sourceforge. net/projects/ istg/

        hanooz URL aslie proje available nist ta proje roo approve konan:

        http://istg. sourceforge. net/

        doostan ham bayad UserName khodeshoon dar SF ro baraye man befrestan ta be list member ha ezafe konam.

        dige fekr konam yavash yavash mobarake dige :-)

        Amin

        Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        Man ba shoroo-e projeh movafegham. Esme projeh ham be nazar man monaseb hastesh.
        Amin jan amade bashe ke dige bayad kolangesho bezani. ;-)

        --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:49 AM

        Salam,

        Khob age nazar dige i nist, fekr mikonam dige mitunim shoroo konim?!

        ghadam badi chi mitune bashe? gorooh ro rah bendazim va dar SF raje be karash shoroo be bahs konim? fekr mikonam alan faghat ye esm kam darim "Iranian Symbian Training Group" ya ISTG chetore? ya yechizi too in maye ha!

        Amin

        Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        IDE: Carbide.C++ Express v1.3 (186MB)
        SDK: S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 2 (143MB)
        Language: Persian

        Taayid shod! ;-)



        --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 8:01 AM











        Salam,
         
        - Pass agar sazemani nisst list Roozbeh jan beh nazar khoob va kamel miresseh keh SDK 2nd edition (agar moshkelat 3rd ra nakhahid) ra tayin mikonad.
         
        - >>SDKi nist ke yejoor halat BASE ro dashte bashe? in noghte zaf nist ke mobile programming dar gooshi hayi ke Symbian OS daranand bishtar bastegi be dastgah dare ta system amel?
         
        WELCOME TO REAL WORLD (beh donyayeh vaghiat ha khosh amadid )  :-)  Symbian khoob asst choon yek sherkat asst va kheyli kontrol shodeh asst faghat dar SDK hayeh jadid feature hayeh jadid vared mishavad. Agar ba afradi keh ba J2ME kar mikonand sohbat konid mibinid cheghadar deleshan khoon asst as FRAGMENTATION (ekhtelaf va fargh beyn telefon ha keh J2ME ra miranand) choon spec J2ME kheyli generic va omomi asst har kass yek joori IMPLEMENT kardeh va makhssoosan DISPLAY va SIZE an barayeh oonhayi keh GAME minevissand kheyli aziateshan mikonad.
         
        Sherkat hayi messl Samsung, Motorola keh MATRIX dorosst hessabi etelaat biroon nemigozarand anha ba TRY and ERROR say mikonand DISPLAY size va gheyreh ra peyda konand. Baz az Nokia kami razi hasstand keh MATRIX ra chap mikonad keh inha midonand va dar CODE eshan IF ELSE hezarta bayad begozarand agar mikhahand yek CODE dar telefon hayeh mokhtalef kar konad.
         
        >>Dar morede IDE ham fekr mikoan Carbide.C++ va Eclipse gozine khoobi bashe.
         
        Movafegh.
         
        >>Dar morede zaban ham fekr mikonam mahsoolate amoozeshimoon hatman bayad be Farsi bashe, chon engelisi kam nist vali Farsi taghriban nadarim!
         
        Movafegh
         
        Br,
        Rosso
        .
         
         


         



        --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 3:53 PM




        Salam,

        Fekr nemikonam sazmani bashe ke betoone amare dorosti erae kone. chon tedad ziadi az mobile hayi ke dar iran hast be soorat ghachagh vared keshvar shode!tanha chizi ke man peyda kardam khabar zir az khabargozari eghtesadi iran e ke etelaat ziadi nemide:

        http://www.econews. ir/main1. asp?a_id= 45715

        az mobile haye Nokia faghat be N73 eshare shode!

        Man ham fekr mikonam aval kar khodemoon ro dargire masael gheyr az Symbian nakonim behtar bashe. SDKi nist ke yejoor halat BASE ro dashte bashe? in noghte zaf nist ke mobile programming dar gooshi hayi ke Symbian OS daranand bishtar bastegi be dastgah dare ta system amel? begzarim! man fekr mikonam S60 2nd Edition Feature Pack 2 ke ghablan 2.2 esmesh boode baraye shoroo behtar bashe.

        Dar morede IDE ham fekr mikoan Carbide.C++ va Eclipse gozine khoobi bashe.

        Dar morede zaban ham
        fekr mikonam mahsoolate amoozeshimoon hatman bayad be Farsi bashe, chon engelisi kam nist vali Farsi taghriban nadarim!

        Ta nazar shoma chi bashe.

        Merci,
        Amin

        Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:








        - Merssi Roozbeh jan az listat va moratab kardan an.
        Hameh ba in list movafeghand ya nazar darand telefon hayi digari esstefadeh mishavad?
         
        [Rassti yek sherkat chizi nisst keh list hameh telefon ha ra dashteh bashad? Kharej sherkat hayi khosossi hasstand keh RESEARCH va tahgighat mokhtalef mikonand va natayej ra ba gheymati miforoshand keh digeh hameh sherkat ha daneshghah ha khodeshan ehtiaj nabashad RESOURCE va energy dar in karhayeh janebi begozarand va list va etelaat ra az in sherkat ha begirand.
         
        Agar nisst az sazeman bazargani, gomrooki jayi nemishe gereft? Choon barayeh varedat telefon bel akhareh jayi sabt mishavad keh chand ta az X vared shodeh va chand ta az Y]
         
        Beh har hal agar nisst shayad hamin keh chand nafar az doostan begoyand keh atrafeshan che telefon hayi ra bishtar mibinand kafi bashad barayeh shoro.
         
        - Roozbeh jan in listi keh dadi messl inkeh aval S60 3rd edition va baad S60 2nd edition asst. Vali jaryan 3rd edition in asst keh Symbian 9.x asst va SECURITY toosh amadeh va bejayeh SIS shoma bayad CERTIFICATION barayeh SIS etan begirid keh SISX shavad ta baad afrad betonand royeh telefoneshan install konand keh kar mioftad beh certification va verisign.com keh fekr nemikonam beh Irani hayeh dakhel Iran asslan certification bedeh choon jozv EXPORT mamnoo asst va gheyreh. In mozoh ham khodash mozoyi asst keh ehtemalan bayad yeki az doostan dar iran tahghigh konand keh asslan ba Symbian 9.x va Verisign.com inha az iran mishe kar kard va che rah hayi darad.
         
        Banabarin barayeh avalin projeh shayad kami sangin bashad va behtar bashad ba S60 2nd edition kar kard in in eshkal ha ra nadarad va ta afrad rah beyoftand baad beh STEP badi beravand. Hala ta digar doostan cheh fekr konand.
         
        - Dar mored essm projeh, aya khoob asst keh yek Iranian avalesh bashad iranian_X ya iranian_y ya nah ? Agar iranian bashad afrad mifahmand keh irani ha hasstand va miayand ya nemiayand. Basstegi darad keh aya mikhahid khodemooni va irani bashad ya international va beynol malali. Agar khodemoni bashad WIKI ra mitonid beh Farsi benevissid agar International bayad beh Engelissi ham benevissid va zaban COMMUNICATION dar goroh va email ha beh engelissi bashad.
         
        Hala ta digar doostan che fekr konand. Keh agar aghayed mokhtalef bood mishe beh ray giri an ra gozasht.
         
        Br,
        Rosso
         
         

        --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 8:25 AM









        Man fekr mikonam behtare in kar ro be anvan avalin ghadam dar khode projeh dar nazar begirim va oonja edame bedim. Man be Link ke Rosso jan dade bood raftam va ba tavajoh be inke fekr miknam bazar S60 dagh tar hastesh, bar in asas Filter ro anjam dadam. Moteasefane natoonestam Site i ke amari az forosh gooshi dar Iran bashe peyda konam vali ba tavajoh be zehniati ke daram list goshi hayi ke bishtar dar dast mardom didam ro inja mizaram. (List moratab shode ast)



        Nokia N73 (S60 3rd Edition)

        Nokia N95 (S60 3rd Edition, Feature Pack 1)
        Nokia 6120 (S60 3rd Edition, Feature Pack 1)
        Nokia N70 (S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 3)
        Nokia 3250 (S60 3rd Edition)
        Nokia E50 (S60 3rd Edition)
        Nokia 6630 (S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 2)
        Nokia 5700 (S60 3rd Edition, Feature Pack 1)
        Nokia N80 (S60 3rd Edition)
        Nokia N72 (S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 3)
        Nokia 7610 (S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 1)
        Nokia 3230 (S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 1)
        Khab ba tavajoh be in list fekr mikonam S60 3rd Edition bishtar tarafdar dar Iran dare. In nazar kamelan shakhsi ast. Nazare shoma chiye?

        Darzemn fekr mikonam behtare yek esm baraye projeh bezarim, masalan RDoS60 (Research & Develop on S60) ya S60Freak ;-). Ino ham lotafan nazar bedin?

        --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 8:00 AM









         
        >Hala barey AKHARIN marhale fekr konam bayad moshakhas konim ke az che SDKi va >che IDE estefade konim. va kolan abzar hayi ro ke lazem darim ba ham hamahang >konim. bad dige be omid khoda shoroo konim.
         
        - Ehtemalan in har chand sal yek bar momken asst nessbat beh sharyet rooz fargh konad va mitonad dar WIKI ya Mailing list oon goroh/projeh tassmim giri shavad nessbat beh sharayet rooz va IDE hayeh mojood.
         
        - Barayeh avalin projeh shayad kari keh mishe kard in asst keh az anja keh bishtar afrad dar Iran khahand bood, negah konid keh emroozeh che telefon hay Symbian i bishtarin esstefadeh dar Iran darad va dar dasstress omom mibashad. List telefon hayeh shomareh 1 ta 3 ya 1 ta 5 keh forosh miravad dar iran ra negah konid baad beh link zir berid:
         
        http://www.forum. nokia.com/ devices/matrix_ all_1.html
         
         
        Dar an in telefon ha ra peyda konid. Baad dasst chap negah konid in telefon ha che SDK i ra esstefadeh mikonand massalan :
         
        Operating System:
        Symbian OS v8.1a
         
        Developer Platform:
        S60 2nd Edition, Feature Pack 3
         
        Baad dar site Nokia bebinid keh in SDK ra barayeh che IDE i darand aya VC++ v6.0 asst barayeh ECLIPSE/CARBIDE asst ya VC .NET etc.
         
        Baad bebinid kodoom IDE ehtemalan majani ya Open Source asst va ya rahat dar dasstress hameh asst.
         
        Baad az in STEP ha SDK va IDE keh makhrej moshtarak hameh bashad bedasst miavarid. In kar ra mitonid inja bekonid ya avalin step projeh dar site project bashad beh onvan PRESTUDY PHASE (faz tahghighati avalieh).
         
        Beh har hal in mitoneh yek rah ressidan beh in javab bashad.
         
        Br,
        Rosso


        --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 4:12 PM




        Salam,

        Kheili sharmandeam ke inghadr dir javab midam! yek moshkel pishbini nashode pish oomad, bayad bebakhshid :-\

        Goftam baraye inke chand vaghtie kheili az windowsam estefade nakardam va behesh naresidam, baraye inke dar karhaye gorooh baram moshkel pish nayad dobare install konamesh! bad fekr kardam windows ke MBR (Master Boot Record) ro faghat baraye khodesh mikhad! va man majbooram GRUB(GRand Unified Bootloader) ro dobare FIX konam behtar ine ke version jadid UBUNTU (8.04) ro ham install konam! vali ba tavajoh be moshkeli ke hamishe WinModem ha ba Linux dashtan natunestam ta emrooz Driver Modem ro peyda konam va rash bendazam! dar verion haye dige moshkeli nabood vali chon too in version kernel Linux sari bad az enteshar 8.04 update shode bood, driver ha baraye oon noskhe az kernel bood! kholase inke sharmande doostan shodam!

        Rosso jan mamnoon az toozihatetoon, man ham hamishe tarsam in bud ke karo kond nakonam (bishtar az
        in?!?! :-\)

        Hala barey AKHARIN marhale fekr konam bayad moshakhas konim ke az che SDKi va che IDE estefade konim. va kolan abzar hayi ro ke lazem darim ba ham hamahang konim. bad dige be omid khoda shoroo konim.

        Merci va baz ham bebakhshid,
        Amin

        Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:







        Ba Salam be doostan,
         
        Bale hamantor ke Rosso jan goftand man ziad ACTION hastam vali na 100% ! taghriban 70%.
         
        ba nazzare Rosso jan ham baraye shoro movafegham. ehtemalan in moshkel ra gorohhaye digar ham dashteand va SF baraye aan rahi darad, vali ta varede goad nashavim nemitavanim anha ra beshenasim.
         
        be har hal man montazere nazarate khoob shoma khaham bood ta bebinim chegoona mitavanim kar ra aghaz konim.
         

        Ba tashakor
        Reza Modarres

        --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 10:18 PM













        >Yadame too yeki az dars haye mohandes Salmanzade dar ITC(nemidoonam Symbian >bood ya UML?) dashtan, goftan (age dorost yadam bashe) adam ha be 4 daste taghsim >mishan ke ya fisoofane raftar mikonan ya action hastand 2 daste dige ham tarkibi az in >do hastand. baz age doroost yadam bashe oonayi baraye proje monaseb tar hastan ke >hardo ro dashte bashan vali action bishtar(?!) hala man fekr mikonam shayad yekam >ziadi filsoofane raftar mikonam! nemidoonam!!

        Che khoob Amin jan yadateh, man khodam yadam rafteh bood :-)
        Areh tahghighati keh anjam dadand beh in natijeh ressidand keh 4 goroh hasstim yeki manand falssafeh dan dosst darand hameh mavared ra dar nazar begirand ghabl az inkeh dasst beh kari bezanand. Massalan agar zabti barayeh mashin mikharand ya telefoni, televisioni mikharand ta zamani hameh ketabche rahnamashoo nakhondand dasst behesh nemizanand.
         
        Yek goroh digar keh ACTION hasstand ketabche rahnama ra miandazand kenar inghadar ba dokmeh ha bazi mikonand ta karash ra yad begirand. Va do goroh digar beyn inha yek yeki nazdik tar beh goroh aval digari nazdik tar beh goroh dovom.
         
         
        Team va projeh i moafagh asst keh az in 4 goroh had aghal yeki dar team bashad. Ekhtelaf aghideh dar projeh ziad bevojod miayad choon yeki migoyad aval hameh javaneb ra negah konim digari migoyad agha bikhial darim vaght talaf mikonim sari bashid hameh moatal hasstand va gheyreh va momken asst beh daava bekeshad. Vali agar har kass in ekhtelafat ra bedoonad va bedonad keh afrad dar goroh hayeh mokhtalef hasstnad va beh har kodam ehtiaj asst va beh aghayed hamdigar ehteram begozarand va COMPROMISE (Sazesh konand) keh hatman hameh karha nabayad 100% oonjoor keh anha mikhahand pish bereh va shayad 70% oonjor keh mikhahand va digari ham sazesh konad dar kool kar khoob pish mireh.
         
        Mamoolan migoyand ba oon goroh aval projeh ra shoro konid keh beh hameh javaneb negah konand vali agar hamishe projeh dasst in goroh bashad hichvaght kari anjam nemishe va faghat beh harf o bahss keshideh mishe. Vaghti hameh javaneb dideh shood kam kam beh goroh dovom va sevoom va dar akhar beh goroh ACTION bayad beressad. Choon agar ba goroh ACTION shoro konid momken asst sari shoro konand khesht ha ra royeh ham gozashtan va yek dafeh mibinid Ooops sakhteman kaj raft bala va digeh ham dir shodeh majboorim haminjoor berim bala keh mishe projeh hayi keh dar kheyli keshvar ha sakhteman hayeh kaj o movaj ra dideh id ?
         
        Inja dar goroh khodeman negah konim shayad (momken asst man dorosst nagoayam hadssi migoyam, choon dorosstash bayad emtehan begirand ba yek seri soalat keh befahmand), hodoodan fekr konam keh Reza jan jozv goroh dovom ACTION bashand va shoma Amin jan goroh Aval. Hamin alan ham Reza jan darand paa beh paa mikonand keh baaba chera darid inghadar leftesh midid digeh shoro konim digeh :-)
         
        Keh COMBINATION shoma va Reza jan khoob asst keh hamdigar ra takmil mikonid barayeh shoro keh badan digar doosttan keh peyvasstand nessbat beh gorohi keh hasstand in TEAM ra kamel mikonand.
         
        - Ama dar mored khood projeh man fekr mikonam in choon yek kar tazeh va jadid asst va shayad avalin bar irani ha anjam midahand keh team open source az rah door messl fresstadan enssan beh mah ya avalin bar parvaz havapeyma kheyli chizha ra beh soorat PROTOTYPE bayad hengam anjam TRY and ERROR yad gerefteh shavad. Ta anjayi keh mishe ba PROTOTYPE kochak va TEST avalieh emtehan kard vali asslan jaryan ba anjam bedasst miayad choon ghablan kassi inkar ra nakardeh va shoma jolotar hasstid.
         
        Ehtemalan khasstid mozoat koli ra mitonid inja bahss konid vali joziat ra mitonid projeh ra shoro konid va joziat ra dar MAILING LIST in goroh donbal konid. Va dar WIKI natijeh hayi keh bedasst miavarid begozarid.
         
        Beh onvan messal projeh aval mitonad yek chiz sadeh bashad keh afrad betonand Hello World ra dar SDK install konand va baad beh telefon montaghel konand va beroonand.
         
        Baad dar WIKI massalan mitonid 5 steps bashad keh soali bashad. Massalan :
         
        1. SDK ra az koja download konam?
        2. SDK ra chegoneh install konam?
        3. Chegoneh Hello World ra compile konam?
        4. Chegoneh Hello World ra Run konam?
        5. Chegoneh Hello World ra beh telefon montaghel konam va dar anja beroonam?
        etc
         
        Agar aval soal bashad baad javab, yani javab dideh nashavad ta kassi royeh soal klick konad keh aval dar maghzash soal dorosst shavad migoyand az nazar amoozeshi assar khobi darad.
         
        Ma dar daneshgah va betoor kool dar Soed dar madaress soalat emtehani sal pish ra midahand keh roosh kar konand va tahghigh kardeh and keh yek seri Doktor ra dadeh and ketab ra bekhonand va digaran ra aval soal dadand keh massalan agar payeh rasst man dard gereft va tah pah soozesh dasht va balance khoob nabood cheh dalili darad ? baad javab ra donbal begardad va bekhonad.
         
        Natijeh dideh and keh doktor ha vared tar shodeh and dar kar ayandeshan choon dar kar mamooli ham enssan aval barash soal bevojood miayad va baad donbal javab asst. Va doktor ha kassi pisheshan miayad migoyad man dasst chapam dard mikonad fekr mikonid eshkal chisst ? Keh in soal doktor ra yad soali mibarad keh ghablan hengam tahssil dideh asst. Ta inkeh agar chand safheh mikhand keh agar dasst chap dard konad momken asst dalilash X va Y va Z bashad etc.
         
        Hala shoma ham agar khasstid mitonid az in ravesh esstefadeh konid va Wiki ra Soal javabi konid.
         
        Hamanjoor keh goftid khood rah andakhtan in projeh aval va chekar ha khoob asst chekar ha khob nisst va wiki chegoneh bashad khood yek projeh asst keh joziat mitoneh dar mailing list an bahss beshe va har kass keh beh in projeh dar ayandeh mipeyvandad mitoneh Wiki ra kamel tar va kamel tar konad.
         
        In projeh aval shayad barayeh Amin jan va Reza jan keh hello world ra midanid khassteh konandeh bashad vali bayad bedonid keh shoma rah ra barayeh digaran dar ayandeh hanvar mikonid keh BASE va oon peyeh avalieh rikhteh mishavad.
         
        Projeh baadi ra bayad chizi entekhab konid keh 10% ta 20% az an ra bedanid va baghieh jadid bashad keh halat amoozeshi va tahgighati dashteh bashad va haminjoor peleh beh peleh bala berid.
         
        Banabarin ehtemalan mitonid yeki doorozi bebind kassi nazari chizi nadarad agar nazar jadidi nabood digeh mitonid projeh ra START konid va linkash ra inja befresstid (Amin jan agar betonid dar Home Page in goroh ham begozarid) va mozoat jadid ba shoro bevojood miayad keh ghadam beh ghadam mitonid hal konid va beh halat PROTOTYPE asst keh kar ra rah miandazad keh baadan digaran mitonad kamel konand va agar aval kamel nabood OK asst mohem in asst keh kar rah beyoftad.
         
        Br,
        Rosso
         
         
         
        --- On Sun, 7/20/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 11:01 AM




        Salam,

        Khosbakhtane system i ke mikhaym azash estefade konim ba ejma tasvib shod! ;-)

        khob pas taklif yaki az masael rooshan shod va fahmidim ke hich kas ba kar dar SourceForge moshkeli nadre.

        Hala ke moshakhas shod koja kare gorooh ro anjam bedim, aya lazeme dar morede inke chtori in karo anjam bedim ham sohbat konim ya na? man ghablan ham kami dar in mored sohbat kardam ke choon in joor system ham mesl sourceforge, code hosting hastand shayad baraye ma ke mikhaym amoozeshi ham bashim be tanhayi kafi nabashe. ya agar bekhaym system karimun ro mojtama negah darim fekr mikonam bayad ye mekanism khasi ro estefade konim. chon tasmim bar in shod ke amoozesh ham janbe amali dashte bashe va dar yek proje vaghei bashe, age baraye har marhale az kar(az sade be sakht) yek proje ijad konim dar SF, matalebi ke be onvan amoozesh dar WIKI un proje migzarim (na matalebi ke marboot be khod software i ke dar nahayat toolid mishe va baraye user
        haye un software hast) in amoozesh ha parakande mishan! kari ke shayad mishe anjam dad ine ke yek proje ro be onvan proje BASE dar nazar gereft va faghat az WIKI un estefade kard va mataleb marboot be amoozesh ro unja negah dasht va ba Link mataleb mokhtalef ro be proje haye marbootashoon ertebat dad! dar vaghe khod neveshtan in document ha ham ye joor toolid mohtava be hesab miad va dar vaghe ye proje ast. albate bayad did ghavanin SF dar in mored chejoori hastand.

        Hala bebinim nazar doostan chie? aya bayad rooye in masael vaght gozasht ya na berim sare asl matlab. albate hame midoonim ke ye sakhtemoon mohkam va boland bayad peye ghavi dashte bashe, bayad tasmim begirim peyi ke sakhtim key be andaze kafi ghavi shode.

        Yadame too yeki az dars haye mohandes Salmanzade dar ITC(nemidoonam Symbian bood ya UML?) dashtan, goftan (age dorost yadam bashe) adam ha be 4 daste taghsim mishan ke ya fisoofane raftar mikonan ya action hastand 2 daste
        dige ham tarkibi az in do hastand. baz age doroost yadam bashe oonayi baraye proje monaseb tar hastan ke hardo ro dashte bashan vali action bishtar(?!) hala man fekr mikonam shayad yekam ziadi filsoofane raftar mikonam! nemidoonam!!

        montazer nazarat shoma hastam,
        Amin

        Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:







        ba salam
         
        man fekr mikonam digar jaye bahs nabashad, behtar ast ba SF jolo berim. systemhaye dige az baazi jahat ghabele reghabat ba SF nistand.
         
        albate in nazare man ast. ta doost ke ra khahad o meylash be ke bashad.

        Reza Modarres

        --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 12:27 PM









        Pass messl inkeh Source Forge hameh chiz ra darad va mitoneh kar goroh ra rah beyandazad. Sorat kam mitoneh CONNECTION zoghali shoma :-) Amin jan ya betoor kool sorat kam dar Iran bashad ya inkeh in site hayi keh tarafdar ziad peyda konand momken asst sorat kam shavad.
         
        Vali khoob site i ham keh tarafdar ziad nadashteh bashid RISK beh zoodi az beyn raftan darad beh har hal beh ghool maroof migoyand THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH IN THE WORLD yani hich nahar majani dar jahan nisst har chiz majani yek gheymat darad keh bayad pardakht :-)
         
        Pass injoor beh nazar miresseh hameh site ha bahss shood va khobi ha va badihashoon gofteh shood agar khasstid mitonid ray giri rah beyandazid agar ham nakhasstid mitonid oon keh ferk mikonid hameh chiz ra darad entekhab konid va jaryan ra rah beyandazid.
         
        Br,
        Rosso
         

        --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 5:29 AM




        2 bare salam,

        Hamuntor ke hads mizadam mishe az WIKI ba nazar admin e proje estefade kard.

        In link ha ro bebinid :
        http://alexandria. wiki.sourceforge .net/Wiki
        http://www.wiki. sourceforge. net/help

        Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:


        Salam,

        Ozre taghsir jahate takhir!! :-)

        SourceForge ro negah mikardam, aksare proje ha Mailing list va Forum darand, chand ta ha ham WIKI dashtand. albate man proje jadid ijad nakardam vali chon yekseri az proje ha mailing list dashtan va forum ro nadshtan va aksaran WIKI nadarand fekr mikonam in dar ekhtiar Admin proje bashe ke kodum ro faal kone. albate in ehtemal ham hast ke WIKI ro khodeshon roye fazayi ke SourceFoge beheshoon dade install karde bashan. 99% motmaenam ke Mailin list va Forum ro SourceForge mide. dar kol fekr mikonam emkane estefade az WIKI ham dar SF bashe che be sorat default khode sourceforg ya inke khodemun nasb konim.

        Vali ye moshkel badi ke SourceForge dare ine ke bazi vaght ha inghadr sorat server hash payin miad ke nemishe be oon safhei ke mikhay beresi va asab khord kon mishe!! albate nemidoonam in bekhater connection zoghalie mane ya baghie doostan ham in moshkelo
        daran?!

        Merci,
        Amin

        Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:





        Ba Salam,
         
        - Barayeh hamin migoyand khob asst keh ghabl az tassmim yek mozoh ra ziad bahss kard keh hameh javaneb ra dar nazar gereft, agar bahss nakardeh boodim jaryan google va tahrim pish nemiamad va rah eshtebahi va OPTION eshtebahi ra entekhab mikardim.
         
        - Pass injoor keh goftid messl inkeh google moshkel tahrim darad vali SourceForge keh majani asst kar mikonad. Digaran pooli va majani darand vali darayeh etebar SourceForge nisstand vali momken asst FEATURE hayeh bishtari dashteh bashand. 
         
        Khoob jaryan Wiki va Mailing list chi mishe ? choon agar massalan 10 ta goroh bashad in afrad mikhahand ba ham dar tamass bashand va barayeh ham email bedahand chegoneh eghdam konand ? Hichkodam az in system ha in emkanat ra darad manand google? Ya bayad wiki va mailing ra jayeh digar jodaganeh anjam dad ?
         
        - Felan keh beh nazar miressad SourceForge shanss khoobi dar entekhab darad vali baz basstegi beh FEATURE va emkanat digar darad keh doostan chekar mikhand bekonand.
         
        - Dar ored Ray giri agar hameh yek nazar dashtand misheh bi khialash shood vali az taraf digar ray giri bad nisst keh nassl ayandeh iranian nayayand begoyand inha chera in ra entekhab kardand ? Na inkeh nassl hayeh ayandeh iranian kheyli donbal jaryan iranian_symbian ra khahand gereft ? :-)
        Vali baz bad nisst keh vaghti hameh massael bahss shood ray giri beshe keh motmaen beshim choon hameh momken asst nakhahand va ya natonand nazareshan ra mosstaghim begoyand dar ray giri migoyand dar zemn maloom mishaad keh chand nafar bidar hasstand va jaryan ra donbal mikonand.
         
        Hala mishe yek bahss kochak dar mored Wiki, Mailing list kard keh aya darand ? Aya ehtiaj asst ? Aya kafi asst keh an ra kharej az an massalan dar yahoo gorohi makhssoss har goorh anjam dad ? Bad az javab in soalat va bahss ehtemalan mishe yek ray giri 1 hafteh rah beyandazid keh yek system i entekhab shavad va kar shoro shaad.
         
        Br,
        Rosso

         


        ----- Original Message ----
        From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:26:21 AM
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door



        Salam,

        Khob mesl inke moshkel tahrim jedie! hala faghat mimune SourceForge va launchpad.net ke yek sohbate kocheki dar moredesh ghablan dashtam! shanse SourceForge bishtar be nazar mirese. aya lazeme ray giri konim?

        Amin

        Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com> wrote:







        ba salam
         
        man ham do sali ast keh ozve SourceForge hastam va ta hala moshkeli nadashtam.

        Reza Modarres

        --- On Sat, 6/28/08, Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 10:22 AM








        Sourceforge moshkeli nadare va man toonestam be rahati ozv besham ghesmat haye digeye Site ham man ba moshkeli movajeh nashodam. Man fekr mikonam ba in vaziat ehtiaji be raai giri nabahse! :D



        --- On Sat, 6/28/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 9:22 PM







        In keh karha ra kharab mikonad choon hameh ba ip avaz kardan o in harfa momken asst vared nabashad.
        Site Sourceforge chi ? Aya an dar Iran kar mikonad ? Site hayeh digari keh doostan moarefi kardand chi ?
         
        Br,
        Rosso

         


        ----- Original Message ----
        From: Roozbeh Saadat <ram_home2003@ yahoo.com>
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:38:56 PM
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door







        Salam,

        Amin jan aslan be in nokte fekr nakarde boodam (Moshkel Tahrim). Moteasefane hanooz baraye man in moshkel vojood dare va vaghti man mikham ye projeh ro Download konam be in payam rooberoo misham:





        Google  
         

        Error

         

        ForbiddenYour client does not have permission to get URL ******* from this server. (Client IP address: *******)

        You are accessing this page from a forbidden country.
        Ke albate rah hayi baraye rad shodan az in Filter vojood dare vali khob hal giriye dige...

        Darzemn yek moghayese beyn Sourceforge va Google Code too link zir mitoonin bekhoonin: http://www.indicthr eads.com/ news/474/ google_code_ hosting_sourcefo rge.html


        --- On Sat, 6/28/08, Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Amin Mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 3:01 AM




        Salam,

        Bazam sharmande, in emtehan haye man toolani o sakht shodan :-\

        Dar morede mozooe HeloWord va noghte shoroo, manzoore man in nabud ke az HelloWord kare team shoroo nashe faghat fekr kardam chon in service hayi ke ma entekhab kardim code hosting mikonand baraye hamchin proje i natunan emkanat lazem ro be ma bedan! ke albate alan fekr mikonam ba komak abzar haye dige i ke in service ha eraye mikonand mishe in moshkel ro ham bar taraf kard.

        Yek nokte dar morede GOOGLE CODE, age dorost yadam bashe in servise Google baraye chand vaghti Iran ro tahrim karde bud, alan moshkeli nist vali ehtemal nadare baddan dobare dastrasie user ha az Iran ro mahdood konan??

        Age service jadidi baraye moarefi nabud, man farda ray giri ro rah mindazam.

        Ghorbane shoma,
        Amin

        Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:





        - Reza jan, hala mitoonim hameh in site ha ra keh doostan moarefi kardeh va mikonand rooz akhar beh ray giri begozarim yeki ra enekhab konim.
        Felan doostan mitonand dar mored har site va khobi ha va badihash etelah bedahand keh badan keh beh ray giri gozashtim hameh dadeh ha ra dashteh bashim.

         - Agar az Amin jan ta shanbeh yek shanbeh khabari nashood agar doostan OK bashand man yek ray giri rah miandazam va essm hameh in site ha migozaram keh yek hafteh ray giri dashteh bashim. Ehtemalan mitonim agar ray giri ha pakhsh bood dar do dafeh bargozar bekonim keh dafeh dovom 2 site keh bishtar ray avardand beh final beravand. Agar az hamoon aval yeki bishtar avard mitonim beh dafeh aval kafayat konim.
         
        Br,
        Rosso

         

        ----- Original Message ----
        From: Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com>
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:07:13 AM
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door








        Ba salam,
         
        Rosso jan rast migooeed, man ham choon ghablan in site ra dideh boodam va meghdari ba an kar kardam, faghat khastam yek site pooli ham moarefi shode bashad, vagar na keh az haman aval ham maaloom bood keh sourceforge va google felan az hame behtarand.
         
        Ba tashakor az

        Reza Modarres

        --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 8:29 PM







        Reza jan eshkal oon site hayi keh ghablan moarefi shood makhsoossan google keh wiki, mailinglist etc darad chisst keh soragh site jadid zoho.com mikhayid beravid ?
         
        Eshkal in site hayeh gheyr maroof in asst keh inha hadafeshan mamoolan in asst keh afrad ra beh anja bekeshand vaghti tedad ziad shood ya poolish konand ya beh sherkati digar beforoshand va chand million dollar bezanand toyeh jib. Adam mimanad ba site bassteh shodeh, ya system ghofl va pooli ya forokhteh shodeh beh yek site bozorgtar va pa dar hava mimanad (nemoneh an az aval internet ta hala ziad boodeh).
         
        Vali site hayeh motabar manand google inghadar pool darand keh to in khatha nisstand va WORSE CASE dar halat bad yek tablighi chizi dasst rasst migozarand. Va hamishe messl gmail, google, map, images, youtube etc say mikonand service hashoon ra majani begozarand keh tablighat beforoshand. Vali sherkat hayeh digar majboorand baad az modati poolish konand va ya bassteh shavand ya beforoshand beh bozorgtar ha.
         
        Dar zemn google dar OPEN SOURCE kheyli faal asst va jadidan ham keh toyeh khat mobile.
         
        Beh har hal mishe ghabl az inkeh site i ra entekhab konid list in site ha ra beh ray giri gozasht va har koodam bishtar ray avard entekhab kard. Fekr konam Amin jan betoneh ray giri dar in goroh rah beyandazad agar natavanesst begoyid man rah miandazam.
         
        Br,
        Rosso

         

        ----- Original Message ----
        From: Reza Modarres <rmodarres@yahoo. com>
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:00:16 AM
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door








        Salam,
         
        man ham ba nazare Rosso jan movafegham. bayad az haman avalin ghadam ba ham bood. baazi az afrad baraye inke rah byoftan ehtiaj be hol darand.( az jomle khodam! ) 
         
        dar morede mahale kar ham man yek site peyda kardam ke mishavad faghat yek project majani dar aan rah andakht (albate tavasote yek modir), vali be nazaram emkanate khoobi darad, mesle Forum, Wiki, Chat va gheyre. ba tartibi ke ta be haal bahs kardim mishavad baraye har kelas yek project taarif kard va yek nafar modir baraye aan gozasht.(albate in nazare man ast.)
         
        www.zoho.com
         
        baad az inke ozv shodid be in address beravid va nemoone projecti ke sakhteam bebinid.(taghriban 5 daghighe toolkeshid.)
         
        http://mobilelevel1 .projects. zoho.com
         

        Reza Modarres

        --- On Tue, 6/24/08, Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        From: Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [Iranian_Symbian] Tashkil yek gorooh az rah door
        To: Iranian_Symbian@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:22 PM









        >Yek noktei ke man az vaghti tasmim gereftim ke gorooh ro interneti edare
        >konim too zehnam hast ine ke az koja va chejoori bayad shoroo kard? az
        >HelloWord? HelloWord khoobe vali ba tavajoh be abzari ke ma ghasd darim
        >azashun estefade konim (Google Code ya SourceForge va ...) kar kami
        >sakht mishe!
         
        HelloWorld faghat EXAMPLE bood keh manzoor projeh i sadeh bashad keh afrad dasst garmi shoro konand.
         
        Vali hala Hello World mitoneh beh in soorat esstefadeh shavad keh CODE keh dar SDK hasst GOAL va natijeh projeh bayad in bashad keh afrad betoonand yek SIS file dorosst konand va dar Telefon INSTALL konand va az barnameshoon akss begirand injoori:
         
        Yad migirand chetoor va az koja SDK ra install konand.
        Chetoori configure konand
        Chegoneh CODE ra compile konand
        Chegoneh SIS dorost konand
        Chegoneh SIS ra beh telefon befresstand
        Chegoneh install konand va chegoneh beroonand.
         
        Natijeh an yek WIKI mishavad dar link an Projeh keh mohtaviat an Wiki yek chizhayi to in mayeh linkhayeh zir mishavad:
         
        http://www.mashaghe l.com/symbian/ DownloadSDK. htm
         
        http://www.mashaghe l.com/symbian/ InstallSDK1. htm
         
        http://www.mashaghe l.com/symbian/ RunningApplicati on.htm

        Inha sadeh beh nazar miayad vali agar kassi anha ra anjam nadahad nemitoneh peleh badi bereh va agar ham dar in peleh ha gir konad badjoori hal adam gerefteh mishavad va asslan vel mikonad. Banabarin peleh hayeh aval mohem asst keh dorosst rafteh shavad keh doostan rah beyoftand va

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