as you all are probably aware Stephen Jones doesn't seem to like young
earth creationists much. I base this one the way he attacks the views
of YEC proponents almost as enthusiastically as he does evolution. The
question is why? After all its all creation, they all have a common
goal (to defeat naturalistic science.)
What creationists don't tell you is that there are some really major
controversies surrounding progressive creationism. Progressive
creationism boasts greater compatibility with modern science, it
accomplishes this by casting aside some long held doctrines of the
Christian church. Most conservative Christian churches that adhere to
the YEC doctrine hold Progressive Creation to be about as Christian as
atheistic evolution itself.
What is Progressive Creationism? Basically PCers accept that the Earth
can be billions-of-years old. How do they reconcile this with the six
days of creation in the Bible? They change the meaning of "day" in
the creation account - from a single rotation of the Earth, to a long,
indefinite period of time (perhaps hundreds of millions of years each).
What happened during these long periods? Not all Progressive
Creationists agree. Their opinions often hinge on whether they have a
theologically liberal bent, or a conservative bent. The more liberal
picture God as doing relatively little in the way of actual creative
acts during the supposed billions of years of creation. God simply
steps-in now and then, to create new life forms. The more conservative
Progressive Creationists present God as doing many more creative
miracles. That is, God creates the world in numerous progressive
steps. That is why this belief is called "Progressive Creation" or
"Process Creation." In reality PC is little more than theistic
evolution, with a lot less evolution occurring.
Although there is little widespread agreement among Progressive
Creationists, they generally believe the following:
1 The "Big Bang" is interpreted as God's way of producing stars and
galaxies through billions-of-years of natural processes.
2 The Earth and universe are billions of years old.
3 The days of Creation were overlapping periods of millions and
billions of years.
4 Death and bloodshed have existed from the very beginning of
Creation and were not the result of Adam's sin. Man was created after
the vast majority of earth's history of life and death had already
5 The flood of Noah was local, not global and it had little affect on
the Earth's geology which represents billions of years of history.
Here is an interesting article that discusses some of the points of
contention between YEC and Progressive creation. The biggest ones of
course being over sin and death not being the fault of Adam, and the
whole Noah's ark thing.
PROGRESSIVE CREATION AND BIBLICAL REVELATION:
SOME THEOLOGICAL IMPLICATIONS
John T. Baldwin
Associate Professor of Systematic Theology
Seventh-day Adventist Theological Seminary
Andrews University, Berrien Springs, Michigan
This statement is from Steven Jones. I think he has too high an
opinion of PC. I have my doubts that he could defend it from
scientific or biblical criticisms. Although Pc is the best attempt (an
attempt ultimatily doomed to failure) to bridge the gaps between
science and biblical creationism, I seriously doubt most
anti-evolutionist Christians will want to hear it.
--- In CreationEvolutionDesign@y..., "Stephen E. Jones" <sejones@i...>
> Agreed that YEC will have problem. Critical thinking cuts both ways!
> But presumably the wiser heads in the Darwinist camp have not believed
> their own propaganda, that their only opposition was from YECs. I
> they are well aware there are more sophisticated versions of
> like Progressive Creation (see tagline), that will survive and
flourish in an
> environment of critical thinking.