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  • Mark Haim
    Hello friends, Dee Berry of the K.C. Greens (Progressive Party of MO) sent this reply to my post from a couple of days ago. I don t think, however, that she is
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      Hello friends,

      Dee Berry of the K.C. Greens (Progressive Party of MO) sent this reply to my
      post from a couple of days ago. I don't think, however, that she is enrolled
      in any of these three listservs, so I'm forwarding her response to you. I
      consider it encouraging news.

      Peace (& Democracy),
      Mark Haim


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Dee Berry [mailto:dberry7@...]
      Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:32 AM
      To: 'Mark Haim'; InstantRunoffMO@yahoogroups.com
      Cc: 'GD'; mogreens@yahoogroups.com; 'Ben Kjelshus'; 'Tyler Endsley';
      'Melissa Scrivener'; 'Shirley Yurkonis'
      Subject: RE: [InstantRunoffMO] New Life for this issue?


      Hi all,

      IRV is an issue that the Greater Kansas City Green Party has always felt
      was crucial if minor parties are ever to have any clout at the polls.
      We are seriously considering getting signatures to get it on the ballot
      for the next city-wide elections, along with running candidates who can
      spread the word and explain the concept. (As you know, this concept is
      not universally understood) Since KC requires a run-off of the top two
      vote getters, the financial incentive will play well. We are watching
      San Francisco carefully to learn from their experiences.

      I agree with Mark that a city-by-city campaign makes the most sense. The
      work load is so much more managable at the local level. We can use one
      city as a model and learn from and for each other, and failure is not so
      devastating.

      Let's dialog more after the election. Dee Berry

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Mark Haim [mailto:mhaim@...]
      Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 5:42 PM
      To: InstantRunoffMO@yahoogroups.com
      Cc: GD; mogreens@yahoogroups.com; Dee Berry; Ben Kjelshus; Tyler
      Endsley; Melissa Scrivener; Shirley Yurkonis
      Subject: RE: [InstantRunoffMO] New Life for this issue?


      Hello Peggy, Dan, Annie & all,

      It's good to hear of new interest and enthusiasm for what's clearly a
      needed reform. I suggest that we try to move forward incrementally, and
      work for IRV in a way that is likely to lead to success in the long-run.

      I think there is much merit in Dan's suggestion that folks look into
      getting this passed on a city-by-city basis. That's how it's moving
      forward out in California, up in Washington state, and over in Michigan.
      The one attempt to pass IRV by state ballot initiative, even though it
      was in Alaska, a state with much stronger third (& fourth, & fifth)
      parties than Missouri, ended in a loss.

      As someone who's worked on several statewide ballot campaigns and knows
      how much work is needed just to get on the ballot, not to mention
      building a campaign capable of educating millions of voters, I think
      that we should recognize that this is beyond our current means.

      I think we should try, however, to get IRV introduced in the state
      legislature and work to get a hearing on it. This is important to get
      folks familiar with the concept, even if it is highly unlikely to pass
      (in the short-run).

      I was talking by e-mail this week with a fellow Green in St. Louis, Mike
      Schaefer, who is in contact with a candidate (a Dem) he thinks is likely
      to win a seat in the Missouri House this Tuesday. He says she is
      interested in electoral reform and we are talking about meeting with her
      after election day to see if we can get something filed.

      I promise to keep this list posted. I'm also cc-ing the Greens of
      Central MO, a St. Louis Greens list and KC/St. Joe Progressive Party
      contacts.

      I also suggest that those who are interested in making something happen
      keep using this list to move things forward, and that those who are not
      on the MO IRV list consider signing up. You can subscribe by posting to:
      InstantRunoffMO-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


      Peace all,
      Mark Haim

      Mark Haim
      1402 Richardson St.
      Columbia, MO 65201
      573-442-2360

      E-mail: mhaim@... <mailto:mhaim@...>




      -----Original Message-----
      From: Peggy Henderson [mailto:peggyh@...]
      Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:31 PM
      To: InstantRunoffMO@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [InstantRunoffMO] New Life for this issue?




      You can count me in. I know nothing, zip, zilch about starting one but
      it seems to me that we need to start a petition for a ballot issue.
      We've got a group here in Rolla and we have some contacts down in West
      Plains and in Texas County who might want to take this on. Peggy
      Henderson


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "AnnieMcU" <anniemcu@...>
      To: <InstantRunoffMO@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 21:23
      Subject: [InstantRunoffMO] New Life for this issue?


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