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Minneapolis IRV for Mayor votes

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  • Tom Ruen
    I looked on the sos website and found they reported voting counts for each rank column, first, second and third. (Reformatted below) It s a boring election,
    Message 1 of 2 , Nov 4, 2009
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      I looked on the sos website and found they reported voting counts for each
      rank column, first, second and third. (Reformatted below)

      It's a boring election, with one strong incumbent, but still interesting to
      see what happened. The IRV process won't even be conducted of course, so
      we'll never know who was "second", but even second place looks pretty well
      locked up by Papa John Koldstad.

      Interestingly only 49% of voters even bothered offering a second choice, and
      only 35% needed a third choice to feel good. I assume those numbers would
      have been higher if it was more competitive.

      With first/second/third votes, I tried adding all the votes, a sort of
      "approval" vote (The maximum number of votes a candidate could get in a
      runoff process). Only 4 candidates were above 20%. Lastly I tried a "borda
      count", (giving 3 points for first rank, 2 points for second, and 1 point
      for third), and percentages based on the borda point sum.

      Again, all boring here, but doing the same for the council seat elections
      might be interesting while they do the elimination process.

      My only thought on this election is that eliminating the primary probably
      HELPS the incumbent by distracting and dividing the competition. How do you
      encourage an incumbent to debate 10 competitors? Who do you give money to? A
      primary elimination round reduces the candidates (like candidates below 20%)
      and it would allow more focused discussion among viable candidates.

      Sincerely,
      Tom Ruen

      http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/20091103/

      Place Name and Party 1st 2nd 3rd 1st% Sum Sum% Borda Borda%
      1 R.T. RYBAK
      Democratic-Farmer-Labor 33220 3229 2099 73.63% 38548 85.44% 108217
      55.52%
      2 PAPA JOHN KOLSTAD
      Independent Civic Leader 4949 3460 1512 10.97% 9921 21.99% 23279
      11.94%
      3 AL FLOWERS
      Democratic-Farmer-Labor 1783 5009 3147 3.95% 9939 22.03% 18514 9.50%
      4 DICK FRANSON
      Democratic-Farmer-Labor 1569 4629 3517 3.48% 9715 21.53% 17482 8.97%
      5 CHRISTOPHER CLARK
      Libertarian 1340 1359 877 2.97% 3576 7.93% 7615 3.91%
      6 TOM FISKE
      Libertarian 655 1366 947 1.45% 2968 6.58% 5644 2.90%
      7 JOEY LOMBARD
      Is Awesome 439 1151 1561 0.97% 3151 6.98% 5180 2.66%
      8 JAMES R. EVERETT
      Social Entrepreneurship 354 551 457 0.78% 1362 3.02% 2621 1.34%
      9 BILL MCGAUGHEY
      New Dignity Party 230 416 480 0.51% 1126 2.50% 2002 1.03%
      10 BOB CARNEY, JR.
      Moderate Progressive Censored 229 507 468 0.51% 1204 2.67% 2169 1.11%
      11 JOHN CHARLES WILSON
      Moderate Progressive Censored 134 169 212 0.30% 515 1.14% 952 0.49%
      WRITE-IN** 215 186 234 0.48% 635 1.41% 1251 0.64%
      TOTAL VOTES 45117 22032 15511 194926
      100.00% 48.83% 34.38%
    • Tom Ruen
      Here s my email again, seeing if I can keep my result table formatting. ... I looked on the sos website and found they reported voting counts for each rank
      Message 2 of 2 , Nov 4, 2009
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        Here's my email again, seeing if I can keep my result table formatting.
         

         
        I looked on the sos website and found they reported voting counts for each
        rank column, first, second and third. (Reformatted below)

        It's a boring election, with one strong incumbent, but still interesting to
        see what happened. The IRV process won't even be conducted of course, so
        we'll never know who was "second", but even second place looks pretty well
        locked up by Papa John Koldstad.

        Interestingly only 49% of voters even bothered offering a second choice, and
        only 35% needed a third choice to feel good. I assume those numbers would
        have been higher if it was more competitive.

        With first/second/third votes, I tried adding all the votes, a sort of
        "approval" vote (The maximum number of votes a candidate could get in a
        runoff process). Only 4 candidates were above 20%. Lastly I tried a "borda
        count", (giving 3 points for first rank, 2 points for second, and 1 point
        for third), and percentages based on the borda point sum.

        Again, all boring here, but doing the same for the council seat elections
        might be interesting while they do the elimination process.

        My only thought on this election is that eliminating the primary probably
        HELPS the incumbent by distracting and dividing the competition. How do you
        encourage an incumbent to debate 10 competitors? Who do you give money to? A
        primary elimination round reduces the candidates (like candidates below 20%)
        and it would allow more focused discussion among viable candidates.

        Sincerely,
        Tom Ruen

        http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/20091103/
        PlaceName and Party1st2nd3rd1st%SumSum%BordaBorda%
        1R.T. RYBAK
        Democratic-Farmer-Labor
        332203229209973.63%3854885.44%10821755.52%
        2PAPA JOHN KOLSTAD 
        Independent Civic Leader
        49493460151210.97%992121.99%2327911.94%
        3AL FLOWERS 
        Democratic-Farmer-Labor
        1783500931473.95%993922.03%185149.50%
        4DICK FRANSON 
        Democratic-Farmer-Labor 
        1569462935173.48%971521.53%174828.97%
        5CHRISTOPHER CLARK
        Libertarian 
        134013598772.97%35767.93%76153.91%
        6TOM FISKE
        Libertarian 
        65513669471.45%29686.58%56442.90%
        7JOEY LOMBARD
        Is Awesome 
        439115115610.97%31516.98%51802.66%
        8JAMES R. EVERETT
        Social Entrepreneurship
        3545514570.78%13623.02%26211.34%
        9BILL MCGAUGHEY
        New Dignity Party
        2304164800.51%11262.50%20021.03%
        10BOB CARNEY, JR.
        Moderate Progressive Censored
        2295074680.51%12042.67%21691.11%
        11JOHN CHARLES WILSON
        Moderate Progressive Censored
        1341692120.30%5151.14%9520.49%
         WRITE-IN** 2151862340.48%6351.41%12510.64%
         TOTAL VOTES451172203215511   194926 
        100.00%48.83%34.38%
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