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  • Re: PNAS article on fake news

    Hi Michel, Nice to hear from you in Italy. :) Waking up in California and trying to find the point in your long post

    yukifarmer 5 days ago
  • Re: PNAS article on fake news

    WIth all due respect, Steve... At first sight, a rather stupid op-ed, with its blatantly subliminal mentions of genuine, Clinton, phony horror stories, Trump,

    micheltavir 5 days ago
  • PNAS article on fake news

    In light of recent discussions of fake Indian history that has just wormed its way back into kids’ history books in California, this Open Access paper

    yukifarmer 7 days ago
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This group is mainly intended for premodern specialists. All can join, but professionals get priority in posting: amateurish posts won't be sent on to the List. Posting guidelines at:

The List's outlook is secular, progressive, and global: we don't post notes that reflect nationalistic or fundamentalist views.

Areas covered include India, China, Iran, C. Asia, the Ancient N. East, SE Asia, Korea, Japan, and Europe. Discussion of other areas including Africa and Mesoamerica and cross-cultural studies are encouraged. Members include archaeologists, historians, linguists, anthropologists, art historians, specialists in premodern religion, comparativists, cultural neurobiologists, population geneticists, and researchers in many other fields. Core members are located in S. Asia, Iran, China, Russia, E. and W. Europe, Australia, Japan, and the US.

The List is run by M. Witzel, S. Farmer, L.M. Fosse, and B. Fleming, representing diverse areas in S. Asian studies, linguistics, comparative history/religion/mythology, and cultural neurobiology.

The List was specifically designed to encourage critical discussion of major unresolved issues in premodern studies. To that end, no posts are ever allowed that claim anything on 'authority' or that make ad hominem attacks on other posters. Posts may be edited to clarify meaning or improve formatting; no changes are ever made to any evidence.

Postings of pre-prints, queries, and announcements are welcome. On weekends discussion is encouraged of lighter issues (e.g., pseudo-archaeology) and global political issues of interest in our fields.

The List is loosely modeled on the Harvard Roundtables on the Ethnogenesis of S. and Central Asia, organized by M. Witzel from the 1990s - 2010. Since 2006 many of the functions of those meetings have been taken over by the International Association for Comparative Mythology (IACM), which holds conferences every year in different parts of the world.

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