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  • UPenn Thangka

    Dear list, I am seeking some help reading a text on a Thangka from the Penn museum. Hoping to identify whether simply a generic quote from a Buddhist scripture

    dontread13 1 day ago
  • Further sources for ancient DNA

    Dear List, Back on May 12th i pointed to a revolutionary paper published in Science magazine the day before that reported the sequencing of Neandertal and

    yukifarmer 11 days ago
  • Re: The Sixth Extinction Underway

    Well, Steve, to me, far from being simplistic, MH has always shown a depth of insight and perception, as well as an uncanny talent to string together things

    micheltavir 12 days ago
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This group is mainly intended for premodern specialists. All can join, but professionals get priority in posting: amateurish posts won't be sent on to the List. Posting guidelines at:

The List's outlook is secular, progressive, and global: we don't post notes that reflect nationalistic or fundamentalist views.

Areas covered include India, China, Iran, C. Asia, the Ancient N. East, SE Asia, Korea, Japan, and Europe. Discussion of other areas including Africa and Mesoamerica and cross-cultural studies are encouraged. Members include archaeologists, historians, linguists, anthropologists, art historians, specialists in premodern religion, comparativists, cultural neurobiologists, population geneticists, and researchers in many other fields. Core members are located in S. Asia, Iran, China, Russia, E. and W. Europe, Australia, Japan, and the US.

The List is run by M. Witzel, S. Farmer, L.M. Fosse, and B. Fleming, representing diverse areas in S. Asian studies, linguistics, comparative history/religion/mythology, and cultural neurobiology.

The List was specifically designed to encourage critical discussion of major unresolved issues in premodern studies. To that end, no posts are ever allowed that claim anything on 'authority' or that make ad hominem attacks on other posters. Posts may be edited to clarify meaning or improve formatting; no changes are ever made to any evidence.

Postings of pre-prints, queries, and announcements are welcome. On weekends discussion is encouraged of lighter issues (e.g., pseudo-archaeology) and global political issues of interest in our fields.

The List is loosely modeled on the Harvard Roundtables on the Ethnogenesis of S. and Central Asia, organized by M. Witzel from the 1990s - 2010. Since 2006 many of the functions of those meetings have been taken over by the International Association for Comparative Mythology (IACM), which holds conferences every year in different parts of the world.

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