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Bronkhorst's chronology of Brhadaranyaka and Buddha

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  • Koenraad
    Dear listfolk, In his recent book *Karma*, and (if memory serves) already in an earlier book, Johannes Bronhorst says in passing that the Brhadaranyaka and
    Message 1 of 2 , Feb 1 4:18 AM
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      Dear listfolk,

      In his recent book *Karma*, and (if memory serves) already in an earlier book, Johannes Bronhorst says in passing that the Brhadaranyaka and Chandogya Upanishad, which introduce the new-fangled reincarnation doctrine into the Vedic tradition, have their doctrinal orgin in "greater Magadha", where karma-centred Jainism and Buddhism flourished, and that they are in fact younger than the Buddha.

      Can he or anyone else here present some evidence (linguistics, history of ideas, genealogy of characters mentioned, etc.) for this unorthodox chronology?

      Thanks,

      Koenraad Elst
    • Michael Witzel
      No. See: Moving Targets? Texts, language, archaeology, and history in the Late Vedic and early Buddhist periods. Indo-Iranian Journal 52, 2009, 287-310.
      Message 2 of 2 , Feb 1 6:50 AM
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        No.

        See: Moving Targets? Texts, language, archaeology, and history in the Late Vedic and early Buddhist periods. Indo-Iranian Journal 52, 2009, 287-310.

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        On Feb 1, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Koenraad wrote:

        > Dear listfolk,
        >
        > In his recent book *Karma*, and (if memory serves) already in an earlier book, Johannes Bronhorst says in passing that the Brhadaranyaka and Chandogya Upanishad, which introduce the new-fangled reincarnation doctrine into the Vedic tradition, have their doctrinal orgin in "greater Magadha", where karma-centred Jainism and Buddhism flourished, and that they are in fact younger than the Buddha.
        >
        > Can he or anyone else here present some evidence (linguistics, history of ideas, genealogy of characters mentioned, etc.) for this unorthodox chronology?
        >
        > Thanks,
        >
        > Koenraad Elst
        >
        >
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