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Re: [Imperial-Club] 60, 63 Imperial Listing

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  • Paul Wentink
    For the record, I have assumed that it is a 63 that had been in a crash with a 60 front clip to repair the damage. BTW my assumptions don t mean anything.
    Message 1 of 12 , Oct 1, 2013
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      For the record, I have assumed that it is a '63 that had been in a crash with a '60 front clip to "repair" the damage. BTW my assumptions don't mean anything. If you are interested in the car, go look at it and drive it.

      Paul W.


      -----Original Message-----
      From: C Bilter <cbilter@...>
      To: Imperial-Club <Imperial-Club@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:00 am
      Subject: Re: [Imperial-Club] 60, 63 Imperial Listing

       
      Paul et. al.: it sounds like you fellas have concluded this particular car was a ‘60 Imperial upon which a ‘63 front end was swapped.  Everything I see on the car says it was a ‘63 Crown convertible upon which ‘60 rear fins/taillights were grafted and ‘60 swivel seats were installed.  The engine looks correct for ‘63.  The dash is ‘63.  The rear seat and door panels started out as a ‘63.  The trim appears to be from a ‘63.  Just my 2c.
       
      Carl B
      ‘63 LeBaron
       
      Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:51 AM
      Subject: Re: [Imperial-Club] 60, 63 Imperial Listing
       
       
      BTW, no one seems to have mentioned that this wasn't likely done for fun but more likely because the car was in a pretty bad crash, enough to change the entire nose???!!! So what other troubles might be lurking in the suspension, frame, etc? 
       
      Just saying.
       
      Paul W.


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Paul Wentink <randalpark@...>
      To: Imperial-Club <Imperial-Club@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 2:40 am
      Subject: Re: [Imperial-Club] 60, 63 Imperial Listing

       
      For a convertible, without knowing anything other than seeing pictures and assuming that is is solid mechanically $16,000 is cheap. Being so rare, many viewers wouldn't know that anything was wrong. That may appeal to some but I wouldn't be seen in it. If I felt the need to buy it, I would remove the 1960 parts and turn it back into a '63. Depending on the cost of a good nose, it might be worth doing.

      Paul W.


      -----Original Message-----
      From: retromobilia <retromobilia@...>
      To: Imperial-Club <Imperial-Club@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 4:10 pm
      Subject: Re: [Imperial-Club] 60, 63 Imperial Listing

       
      Paul,
      Besides these points the car looks good. I know everyone tries to get them as original as possible. But, that being said and agreed; If someone liked the car as is what is it worth!?
      JJ




      From: "C Bilter" <cbilter@...>
      To: Imperial-Club@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:10:43 AM
      Subject: Re: [Imperial-Club] 60, 63 Imperial Listing

       
      This car has been discussed on the forum previously.  Check the archives.  Re. the interior,  the dash is correct for ‘63.  The rear seat is from a ‘63 ‘vert in close to the correct pattern (missing the buttons)  but redone in vinyl.  The front swivel seats appear to be 1960 seats in red vinyl but not redone in either the correct 1960 pattern or the correct 1963 pattern.  The door panels are close to the 1963 Crown pattern (again, missing the buttons, and the lower section should be carpeted not vinyl) but they should not be screwed on around the bottom.  This is likely due to reuse of the old door panel cardboard with missing or torn out door clips.  The carpeting has been replaced with short nap cut pile, a reasonable modern replacement for the original “twisted loop” but not technically 100% accurate. 
       
      Carl B
      ‘63 LeBaron
       
      From: Herb
      Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:04 AM
      Subject: [Imperial-Club] 60, 63 Imperial Listing
       
       
      What are everyone's comments on the "Professional Interior".  I don't seem to recall the door panels being screwed on?  How close to correct is the interior?  He seems to insinuate the Imperial Club holds this car near & dear to its heart.....Fact...or.....Fiction.  I have observed this listed several times, I thought it had sold a couple of times but it just keeps coming back.   Possibly Buddy Bidders to bump the price up and they failed in their endever?  What do you regulars think is a fair price for this car?
       
       
      Thanks for your time and comments!
      Herb
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