Fwd: Team News Release: Wolves Move to AHL
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- I think the next season will bring some major changes to the UHL. With the
mergers of the IHL with AHL and also the CHL with the WPHL there will be a
lot of guys looking for work. It's my opinion that the new veteran rule that
is supposed to take place this season needs to be changed again. This could
also be a chance for the UHL to grow a little and expand into new or abandon
markets. It will be interesting to see what comes out of all the changes
- The UHL is going to miss out on all these players and coaches if the implement the rule changes they came up with. They need to rethink think the salary cap, veteran rule, premier player, and two-way contracts or the UHL will be the next to fold. A player who was making $50,000 in another league isn't going to come to the UHL if they are only going to make $20,000 per year. A lot will take a pay cut, but not that big of one. Hopefully, they'll reconsider some of this and try to become a bigger part of the NHL development.
Those are my thoughts anyway.
- The IHL officially ceased operations yesterday or this morning.
as for the U, I don't think we need to expand the league to too many more
>From: IceHogsFan@...I would agree with all of these statements. It's obvious that
>I think the next season will bring some major changes to the UHL. With the
>mergers of the IHL with AHL and also the CHL with the WPHL there will be a
>lot of guys looking for work. It's my opinion that the new veteran rule
>that is supposed to take place
>this season needs to be changed again.
the UHL is not now, nor is it likely to be, considered a
"developmental" league, like the AHL or even the East Coast
League. Therefore, it makes little sense to restrict the
number of players available to the teams by placing any
restrictions on the number of veterans they may employ.
If the UHL had teams in higher leagues that regularly fed
contracted players to ALL of the UHL teams for "development,"
it would make sense to restrict the number of veterans. But
since this is not happening, it doesn't make sense to place
restrictions on the talent pool from which your clubs may draw.
It's just another example, IMO, of the cluelessness of the
league's operating officers, Brosal in particular.
>This could also be a chance for the UHL to grow a little andSince the Detroit Vipers were not part of the AHL/IHL merger,
>expand into new or abandon markets.
that market would seem to be a natural for the "U." Kansas
City might also fit, since it was also left behind by the
merging of the two leagues.
Isn't Green Bay supposed to be coming on board next year?
Also, what about Ohio and Lehigh Valley? Both clubs are
having nice, new, 7,000-seat state-of-the-art buildings
built for UHL franchises -- if, however, the AHL comes
calling for a few more franchise locations, so that
there can be one AHL franchise for each NHL club, my
guess is that Ohio and Lehigh Valley would drop Brosal
and the UHL faster than a hot potato. I know that if I
were the building manager of either of those new palaces,
I'd much rather see the established AHL in my building,
as opposed to the somewhat "fly-by-night" reputation of
On that same note, and considering that now there are
AHL franchises in Milwaukee and Chicago, don't be
surprised if the Mallards don't seriously consider
stepping up to the AHL. The only thing that would
hold them back would be their management's fear of
no longer being the big fish in the small pond, but
if they secured the affiliation of an NHL club with
a good prospect pool (like St. Louis, for example),
whereby they could be assured of continuing to put
an "elite" quality product on the ice, it might be
in their best interests to move up. IMO, the
Ducks won't take the chance of moving up if they
can't get an affiliation with an "elite" NHL club,
because they fear (rightly) that they wouldn't draw
half what they do now UNLESS their team was a
perennial contender. I'm very curious to see
what happens to the attendance at the MARK when
the cycle turns, as it inevitably must, and the
Mallards have a team that wins 30 games a year
instead of 50.
Would the "absence of Mallards" (sorry, bad pun) kill
the UHL, though? And if it does, where do we in
Rockford fit in? I doubt that our population base
is adequate to support an AHL club, although there
were three AHL teams (Lowell, St. John's, and Albany)
who drew less than the Hogs last season, and two of
those teams made the playoffs.
IMO, the best option for Rockford, if the UHL should
expire, would be to pursue a United States League
junior franchise, and to take a leading role in the
push to make the USHL the fourth Major Junior league
under the umbrella of the Canadian Hockey League,
and render the USHL champion eligible to compete
for the Memorial Cup.
Failing that, Rockford would fit in the Central League,
as long as the regular-season schedule was designed
to emphasize Midwestern locations such as Topeka,
Wichita, Indianapolis or possibly Memphis.
>It will be interesting to see what comes out of all theThat it will...
>changes taking place.
>GO AVS!!The hell with the Avs; Go Devils.
"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer,
there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."
-- Otto von Bismarck, 1851
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- Green Bay is sticking with with USHL.
Lehigh Valley & Ohio both are in doubt for this season (and for the UHL in general) because neither of their arenas will be finished in time for the 2001-2002 season.
I don't think a USHL team would be good in Rockford. You aren't talking hockey much better than the Icemen. I just don't think it is the caliber of hockey that would make here in town.
The rumor mill on QC is that Howard Cornfield has given up $1.5mil of his own money to buy the Mallards from USV. If true I doubt that they'll move to another league this year. After a 1.5mil hit, he isn't going to be able to afford the franchise fees to go to the AHL. They aren't likely to waive the fees since they absorbed 6 IHL teams.
The UHL is going to have to change their rules drastically, and pursue becoming some kind of a developemental league for one league or another. To say that they won't or shouldn't is saying that they don't want the best players possible. With all the changes going on in hockey, NOW is the time to make the changes that will make this a better league.
>From: gah2112@...That's good, I guess. I had heard a rumor that the guy
>Green Bay is sticking with with USHL.
who owns the Muskegon Fury had bought the Green Bay
franchise, and was moving the Fury there.
>Lehigh Valley & Ohio both are in doubt for this season (and for the UHL inThat's also probably a good thing. This league needs
>general) because neither of their arenas will be finished in time for the
to make sure that the current franchises are all
solid and stable before adding any more, IMO.
That's not to say that teams can't be moved if
necessary, however, and the Palace of Auburn
Hills (where the Vipers played) would be a real
feather in the UHL's cap.
>I don't think a USHL team would be good in Rockford. You aren't talkingYou might be right, but the USHL does have the
>hockey much better than the Icemen. I just don't think it is the caliber of
>hockey that would make here in town.
advantage of being amatuers, meaning that there
is no payment required for the players. Everything
that comes in is profit, after paying rent and
And, if the USHL does move towards becoming a
Major Junior league, like the Ontario or
Western leagues, the caliber of play will
>The rumor mill on QC is that Howard Cornfield has given up $1.5mil of hisI didn't mean that the Mallards would jump leagues
>own money to buy the Mallards from USV. If true I doubt that they'll move
>to another league this year. After a 1.5mil hit, he isn't going to be able
>to afford the franchise fees to go to the AHL. They aren't likely to waive
>the fees since they absorbed 6 IHL teams.
THIS year. The smart thing to do would be to wait
a year, at least, and see how the Chicago and
Milwaukee franchises adapt to the AHL, and what
becomes of the teams in Manitoba, Houston, and
Utah (all of which are too far removed from the
East Coast-based AHL to be viable as AHL
franchises for long). If those franchises
are eventually moved to locations that are
more geographically in line with the AHL, and
with the Quad (places like Lehigh Valley or
Ohio), then the Mallards would be better
served by jumping to the AHL.
>The UHL is going to have to change their rules drastically, and pursueI couldn't agree more, Greg, but by taking away
>becoming some kind of a developemental league for one league or another. To
>say that they won't or shouldn't is saying that they don't want the best
>players possible. With all the changes going on in hockey, NOW is the time
>to make the changes that will make this a better league.
affiliations (like the league did to the Quad),
it becomes obvious that the league is moving away
from developmental status and looking to go more
on its own as a "free agent" type league.
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