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Re: [I-M223] Cont3 tests pending

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  • Wayne Roberts
    Scott, I have not sent emails to some of the people that may live in Brazil or have Portuguese or Spanish backgrounds from the Project. I will be looking to
    Message 1 of 97 , Sep 13, 2013
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      Scott,
       
      I have not sent emails to some of the people that may live in Brazil or have Portuguese or Spanish backgrounds from the Project. I will be looking to Aaron to make contact with some of these as he administers other Projects they belong to.
       
      More later.
      Wayne
       
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      Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:59 AM
      Subject: RE: [I-M223] Cont3 tests pending

       

      Wayne, Thank you for all of your work on this.  I’m looking forward to the results for Garcia and Fanoy because they’re very close to the P78 MAX and, if they’re P78+, it’d be good to ask them to test L484 and L1443.  It’s interesting that McDonald (B1563) is testing L1443 because he’s listed in M284.  It looks like the L703 Cont3a-XX and L704 Cont3a-XX1 have picked up some momentum with the Perrys, Watkins, and Wilsons and are sorting L700, L1226, and L704 out on their own now without me and I can focus on P78.  It’s interesting that Chumley (199579) is testing L1228 because he’s listed in Z161.  Looking forward to the L1228 for Gonzalez, Munoz, and Rego.  Please compare Gamez (283776) to Cotton (173537).  As we were discussing whether Olivera (N60328) may be L1228, please also consider whether Torres (N108722) also may be L1228.  Then the questions would be whether Rowe (N110507), Barber (N79555), Williams (N56553), Perez-Ferreiro (80810), Wharton (6017), Costa (N82427), Pastrana (N85372), etc. are L1228, L1229, or otherwise.  Please don’t hesitate to let me know if there’s anything that I can do.  Thanks again for all your help, Scott

      From: I-M223@yahoogroups.com [mailto:I-M223@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Roberts
      Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:24 AM
      To: I-M223@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [I-M223] Cont3 tests pending

      Scott, Here is a run down on Cont3 SNP tests pending and also L1228 tests pending.

      P78 - kits 155821, 154462, N87122.

      L1443 - 103295, B1563,

      and there are those couple of L700, L1226 and a L704 as well as three each of PF6896 and PF6902

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      L1228 - 199579, 155821, 247485, N115430

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      Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:48 AM

      Subject: RE: [I-M223] Re: L1443 in Cont3

       

      Wayne, My thoughts, corresponding to your thoughts below, are:

      1) L484 & L1443.  We're still waiting on L1443 results for our friend Bill Ballough (103295) and P78 and L1228 results for Gonzalez (155821).  Bill could be L1443- or Gonzalez could be P78.  I haven't heard Aaron or a single Co-Administrator accept my hypothesis that L1443 is phyloequivalent to P78 and L484, so my understanding is that we'll select more people to ask to test L1443 and/or L484 if Bill turns out to be L1443+ and Gonzalez isn't P78, but you want the results to come in for Bill and Gonzalez before we do that and that won't be until next month at the earliest.  Knowing that L1443 is phyloequivalent is better than not knowing about it, so I've been quite satisfied with our L1443 testing.

      2) L1228.  My understanding is that we're waiting for the P78 and L1228 results for Gonzalez (155821) before asking Pike (194314), Olivera (N60328), Costa (220257), or Munoz (247485) to test L1228.  Please let us know your thoughts regarding asking Pike (194314) to test L1228 and, if he doesn't respond, asking Olivera to test L1228?

      3) L700, L703, L704, PF6896, PF6902 & L1226.  My understanding is that we're waiting for the L704 and L1226 results for Watkins and the PF6896 and PF6902 results for Dawes (95786) and Perry before asking anyone to test these SNPs and that won't be until next month at the earliest.  The last time that I checked, FTDNA still didn't have PF6899 up for individual orders.

      Please don't hesitate to let me know if there's anything that I can do.  As always, thanks for all of your help with the Project, Scott

      From: I-M223@yahoogroups.com [mailto:I-M223@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Roberts
      Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:42 AM
      To: I-M223@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [I-M223] Re: L1443 in Cont3

      Scott, Weliver and Alshammari have both come back as L1443+. It is looking more like L1443 is another phyloequivalent SNP to P78. Very disappointing.

      As for Olivera and Pike you listed below, I cannot make a call one way or the other on them both. They will need to test one, if negative, then test the other.

      Wayne

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      Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 9:13 AM

      Subject: Re: [I-M223] Re: L1443 in Cont3

      Wayne, Please let me know your thoughts on moving Olivera (N60328) up next to Pike (194314) in P78 with the question being whether Olivera (N60328) and Pike (194314) belong in P78 or L1228?  Thanks, Scott

    • Wayne Roberts
      Scott, The order has been placed for PF6899. Thank-you for your donation to cover this cost and thanks to Franklin Dawes for being out tester again. Wayne ...
      Message 97 of 97 , Jan 14, 2014
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        Scott,
         
        The order has been placed for PF6899.
         
        Thank-you for your donation to cover this cost and thanks to Franklin Dawes for being out tester again.
         
        Wayne
         
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        Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:32 AM
        Subject: RE: [I-M223] Re: L1443 in Cont3

         

        Wayne, That sounds good.  I contributed the $39 to the Project Fund, so please order PF6899 for Dawes.  Thanks for your help, Scott

        From: I-M223@yahoogroups.com [mailto:I-M223@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Roberts
        Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:47 PM
        To: I-M223@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [I-M223] Re: L1443 in Cont3

        Scott, I think we could order PF6899 for Dawes but leave it at that for now until we see what comes back with Big Y tests.

        What I expect we will find for Cont3 branches at present (pre-Big Y) are:

        L701, L702, PF6894, PF6897 --> P78, L484, L1143

        L701, L702, PF6894, PF6897 --> L699, L703, PF6896, PF6899, PF6902

        L701, L702, PF6894, PF6897 --> L699, L703, PF6896, PF6899, PF6902 --> L704

        L701, L702, PF6894, PF6897 --> L699, L703, PF6896, PF6899, PF6902 --> L704 --> L700

        L701, L702, PF6894, PF6897 --> L699, L703, PF6896, PF6899, PF6902 --> L704 --> L1126

        But one could be surprised. And someones somewhere are also L705/S465, L706 and L707 though they may not all be in Cont3.

        Wayne

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        Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:52 AM

        Subject: RE: [I-M223] Re: L1443 in Cont3

         

        Wayne, Please confirm that we can move forward with requesting PF6899 for Dawes 95786 per your email below and I’ll contribute the $39 to the Project Fund?  Thanks, Scott

        From: I-M223@yahoogroups.com [mailto:I-M223@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Roberts
        Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 11:43 AM
        To: I-M223@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [I-M223] Re: L1443 in Cont3

        Scott,

        PF6896, PF6899 and PF6902 update.

        Permission to test for PF6896, PF6899 and PF6902 was received from Dawes Kit 95786….

        No word back from Feller kit 116271. However he has not tested for L699, L703 or L704 and I would therefore rule him out unless L703 and L704 were also tested.

        Of the members in Cont3a - XX group, only Dawes, Tate and Morgan kit 24276 have tested for L699 and L703 with Dawes also testing L704-. It is a rather sad state of affairs that all of the others (excusing the other three Morgans) are not confirmed L699+ and/or L703+ and L704-. They should be encouraged to test for L703 at least.

        Dawes is really the only reliable option to test for PF6896, PF6899 and PF6902 as he is known L699+, L703+ and L704-. Tate or Morgan are the next best with L699+ and L703+.

        Testing in Cont3a - XX1 (L704 group) was put on hold until we had confirmation of results for one or more from Cont3a - XX group.

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