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  • joaobraz_2000
    hello everybody, Can someone explain why is there so much discrepancy between the price of Geno 2.0 (~$200) and what is available through FTDNA? It feels like
    Message 1 of 11 , Jan 4, 2013
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      hello everybody,

      Can someone explain why is there so much discrepancy between the price of Geno 2.0 (~$200) and what is available through FTDNA? It feels like for the same results (Y-12, mtDNA and autosomal/family Finder), I would have spent much less (~$300 less) going with Geno 2.0 ... Should I feel a little cheated or is something extra provided by FTDNA that is not through Geno 2.0?

      Thanks!
      JOAO
      Kit #260237



      --- In I-M223@yahoogroups.com, "Wayne Roberts" wrote:
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      > However Robert, if you look under the Project's website at the SNPs tested you will see:
      >
      > CTS10057+, CTS10058+, CTS10100+, CTS10125+, CTS10362+, CTS109+, CTS11358+, CTS11441+, CTS11575+, CTS11726+, CTS125+, CTS12632+, CTS1977+, CTS1996+, CTS2193+, CTS2392+, CTS2514+, CTS2536+, CTS3296+, CTS3326+, CTS3331+, CTS3431+, CTS3517+, CTS3536+, CTS3654+, CTS3662+, CTS3868+, CTS3996+, CTS4039+, CTS4088+, CTS429+, CTS4314+, CTS4348+, CTS4364+, CTS4368+, CTS4443+, CTS4740+, CTS4848+, CTS4982+, CTS5286+, CTS5318+, CTS5457+, CTS5532+, CTS5650+, CTS5727+, CTS5908+, CTS6135+, CTS6136+, CTS616+, CTS6265+, CTS6331+, CTS6383+, CTS674+, CTS6800+, CTS6907+, CTS6932+, CTS7329+, CTS7331+, CTS7502+, CTS7682+, CTS7831+, CTS7865+, CTS7922+, CTS7933+, CTS7934+, CTS8243+, CTS8333+, CTS8345+, CTS8420+, CTS8449+, CTS88+, CTS8876+, CTS8901+, CTS8980+, CTS9183+, CTS9240+, CTS9264+, CTS9266+, CTS9482+, CTS9782+, CTS9828+, F1046+, F1209+, F1302+, F1320+, F1329+, F1450+, F1460+, F1704+, F1714+, F1753+, F1767+, F2048+, F2075+, F2142+, F2155+, F2345+, F2366+, F2402+, F2587+, F2688+, F2710+, F2794+, F2837+, F2985+, F2993+, F3111+, F3136+, F3335+, F3368+, F3402+, F3556+, F3692+, F4188+, F719+, F922+, L1198-, L1290-, L132+, L147.4-, L15+, L16+, L34+, L35+, L350+, L37+, L403+, L41+, L460+, L468+, L470+, L498+, L566+, L578+, L59+, L623-, L68+, L748+, L751+, L755+, L756+, L758+, L772+, L781+, L800+, L801+, M139+, M161-, M168+, M170+, M21-, M223+, M227-, M235+, M253-, M258+, M26-, M284-, M294+, M307-, M379-, M42+, M72-, M89+, M94+, P123+, P124+, P126+, P127+, P130+, P135+, P136+, P138+, P14+, P141+, P145+, P146+, P148+, P151+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P166+, P187+, P19+, P214+, P215+, P216+, P217+, P219+, P220+, P221+, P222+, P223+, P30-, P37.2-, P38+, P78-, P95-, PF1016+, PF1029+, PF1031+, PF1040+, PF1046+, PF1061+, PF1092+, PF1097+, PF110+, PF1203+, PF1269+, PF1276+, PF15+, PF192+, PF210+, PF212+, PF223+, PF234+, PF258+, PF2591+, PF2593+, PF2599+, PF2600+, PF2608+, PF2611+, PF2615+, PF2624+, PF263+, PF2631+, PF2643+, PF272+, PF2745+, PF2747+, PF2748+, PF2749+, PF2770+, PF278+, PF292+, PF316+, PF325+, PF342+, PF3504+, PF3514+, PF3515+, PF3517+, PF3518+, PF3534+, PF3560+, PF3561+, PF3562+, PF3573+, PF3574+, PF3575+, PF3578+, PF3586+, PF3588+, PF3590+, PF3594+, PF3595+, PF3596+, PF3600+, PF3604+, PF3605+, PF3607+, PF3611+, PF3612+, PF3616+, PF3618+, PF3621+, PF3622+, PF3623+, PF3625+, PF3626+, PF3634+, PF3639+, PF3640+, PF3641+, PF3642+, PF3644+, PF3651+, PF3652+, PF3654+, PF3657+, PF3658+, PF3660+, PF3664+, PF3666+, PF3667+, PF3669+, PF3671+, PF3672+, PF3675+, PF3677+, PF3686+, PF3694+, PF3780+, PF3798+, PF3800+, PF3801+, PF3802+, PF3804+, PF3806+, PF3807+, PF3809+, PF3811+, PF3812+, PF3814+, PF3815+, PF3819+, PF3820+, PF3822+, PF3836+, PF3837+, PF3849+, PF3876+, PF500+, PF601+, PF667+, PF719+, PF720+, PF725+, PF779+, PF796+, PF803+, PF815+, PF821+, PF840+, PF844+, PF892+, PF937+, PF951+, PF954+, PF970+, V186+, V189+, V205+, V52+, V9+, YSC0000056+, YSC0000256+, YSC0000260+, YSC0000265+, YSC0000267+, YSC0000272+, YSC0000280+, YSC0000281+, YSC0000298+, YSC0000300+, Z161+, Z162+, Z163+, Z164+, Z165+, Z168+, Z170+, Z172+, Z174+, Z175+, Z176+, Z177+, Z178+, Z179+, Z181+, Z183+, Z184+, Z186+, Z188+, Z76+, Z77+, Z78-, Z79-, ZS16-, ZS26-
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      > Which is why it takes a lot longer to precess and then there are the insertions and deletions, the no calls and the negatives which do not show here but are listed in your dowloaded csv file.
    • Wayne Roberts
      Joao, Yes, there are but one needs to understand the various products on offer. Geno 2.0 is more like a combination of FTDNA s Deep Clade test for SNPs and
      Message 2 of 11 , Jan 5, 2013
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        Joao,
         
        Yes, there are but one needs to understand the various products on offer.
         
        Geno 2.0 is more like a combination of FTDNA's Deep Clade test for SNPs and 23andMe's test for Y-Haplogroup, mtDNA Haplogroup and Relative Finder. Neither give you the full picture. FTDNA's Deep Clade does not test for all terminal SNPs that have been discovered. 23andMe does not give you your STR results and only tests some of the mtDNA regions. It does give you health reports though. Geno 2.0 also does not test for your STRs, tests for many SNPs but not all terminal SNPs and many so upstream they have little relevance to the individual (and I think it does not test for the coded region for mtDNA but not sure on this one).
         
        Both Geno 2.0 and 23andMe results alone will not give you Y-DNA matches or allow you to participate in Y-Haplogroup Projects such as I-M223 Project. You still must test with a company that tests for the STR markers such as FTDNA, Ancestry, Heritage, etc.
         
        So you are caught in that you often have to test with several companies depending on what you are looking for or you test with just one and be content with what is delivers. Geno 2.0 is more a replacement for FTDNA's Deep Clade test and Family Finder but does not compete with STR marker testing or mtDNA full genome sequencing. Wayne
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        Subject: [I-M223] Discrepancy between prices ...

         

        hello everybody,

        Can someone explain why is there so much discrepancy between the price of Geno 2.0 (~$200) and what is available through FTDNA? It feels like for the same results (Y-12, mtDNA and autosomal/family Finder), I would have spent much less (~$300 less) going with Geno 2.0 ... Should I feel a little cheated or is something extra provided by FTDNA that is not through Geno 2.0?

        Thanks!
        JOAO
        Kit #260237

      • joaobraz_2000
        Thanks Wayne ... I feel much better! Maybe I ll get Geno 2.0 one of these days in complement of my FTDNA results. Cheers, JOAO
        Message 3 of 11 , Jan 7, 2013
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          Thanks Wayne ... I feel much better! Maybe I'll get Geno 2.0 one of these days in complement of my FTDNA results.

          Cheers,
          JOAO

          --- In I-M223@yahoogroups.com, "Wayne Roberts" wrote:
          >
          > Joao,
          >
          > Yes, there are but one needs to understand the various products on offer.
          >
          > Geno 2.0 is more like a combination of FTDNA's Deep Clade test for SNPs and 23andMe's test for Y-Haplogroup, mtDNA Haplogroup and Relative Finder. Neither give you the full picture. FTDNA's Deep Clade does not test for all terminal SNPs that have been discovered. 23andMe does not give you your STR results and only tests some of the mtDNA regions. It does give you health reports though. Geno 2.0 also does not test for your STRs, tests for many SNPs but not all terminal SNPs and many so upstream they have little relevance to the individual (and I think it does not test for the coded region for mtDNA but not sure on this one).
          >
          > Both Geno 2.0 and 23andMe results alone will not give you Y-DNA matches or allow you to participate in Y-Haplogroup Projects such as I-M223 Project. You still must test with a company that tests for the STR markers such as FTDNA, Ancestry, Heritage, etc.
          >
          > So you are caught in that you often have to test with several companies depending on what you are looking for or you test with just one and be content with what is delivers. Geno 2.0 is more a replacement for FTDNA's Deep Clade test and Family Finder but does not compete with STR marker testing or mtDNA full genome sequencing. Wayne
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