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2344Re: [Hyenas] Ice

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  • Paul Nicholls
    Sep 3, 2002
      Well said Peter

      Let's face it, we all want to play, but someone has to take responsibility
      for people turning up for no reason.

      I support your course of action

      Cheers

      Paul Nicholls #68
      Basingtoke Hyenas Ice Hockey Team


      > From: "Peter Hawken" <peterhawken@...>
      > Reply-To: Hyenas@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 11:43:37 +0100
      > To: <Hyenas@yahoogroups.com>
      > Subject: Re: [Hyenas] Ice
      >
      > Dave and others,
      >
      > I understand your sentiments about the ice. However, let me point out that
      > the ice was cancelled last week by Planet Ice and they didn't at any time
      > let me know that the ice would be available. Therefore, regardless of the
      > status of the ice pad, we didn't actually have the ice booked. Until such
      > time as Planet Ice offered us the ice once again, we didn't have the option
      > of using the ice.
      >
      > I had spent a significant amount of time trying to contact players to ensure
      > they didn't arrive to find no ice. Even if we were offered the ice again, it
      > would have been unfair to those who are difficult to get in touch with to
      > reinstate the ice without letting them know as well. As we also need to
      > have two coaches on the session, it may have been difficult to arrange this
      > in time as well.
      >
      > Bearing in mind the recent difficulties in agreeing or retaining any booking
      > with Planet Ice unless fully confirmed in writing by both sides, the only
      > course of action was to not run the session. Because of bookings changed,
      > cancelled and forgotten by PI in the past, we DO NOT make any arrangement
      > without written confirmation to Planet Ice and an acknowledgement of the
      > booking from them. As we didn't have the time to do this, the booking could
      > not go ahead.
      >
      > As far as the payment is concerned, each member makes a payment into the
      > club each month to support the running costs of the club. No one has lost
      > any money here. The club is owned by the members, the money held by the
      > club therefore belongs to the members. As we effectively see a reduction in
      > the cost of ice time, the 'excess' money is held in the bank to be used for
      > future expenses. The members (i.e. the club) have not paid for the ice
      > time as we will not be paying for the ice that we haven't used.
      >
      > For those who feel as Dave does, please understand that we cannot please all
      > the people all the time. Any other action would have raised a different
      > complaint from another unhappy member.
      >
      > Peter
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Dave Sims" <davesims_uk@...>
      > To: <Hyenas@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 3:23 PM
      > Subject: Re: [Hyenas] Ice
      >
      >
      >> Pete,
      >>
      >> i am sorry to have to say this but as a dedicated
      >> member of the team i feel somewhat cheated.
      >> surely if ice is available and the members have paid
      >> for this time why can we not use it,as we do not have
      >> enough ice time as it is
      >>
      >>
      >> dave#10
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> --- Peter Hawken <peterhawken@...> wrote:
      >>> Planet Ice have NOT got in touch to confirm this. As
      >>> far as I am aware, we still have no ice on Sunday
      >>> despite hearing from one or two other sources that
      >>> they will not be taking up the ice until later.
      >>> Typical of Planet Ice I'm afraid
      >>>
      >>> To avoid confusion, regardless of whether the ice is
      >>> there or not, we will NOT have training on Sunday
      >>> evening. That way, we don't have the risk of people
      >>> turning up to find no ice, or others not turning up
      >>> because they didn't know the session was off.
      >>>
      >>> SO..... NO TRAINING ON SUNDAY
      >>>
      >>> Sorry folks
      >>> ----- Original Message -----
      >>> From: Julia Burns
      >>> To: Hyenas@yahoogroups.com
      >>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:50 PM
      >>> Subject: [Hyenas] Ice
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> Guys
      >>>
      >>> I have been told that the rink is closing on Tues
      >>> now to do the ice so we should have training on
      >>> Sunday 1/9.
      >>> Has anyone heard anything from Plant Ice - silly
      >>> question I know.
      >>>
      >>> Jools
      >>> #44
      >>>
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