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  • John Royle
    A mate of mine at work is friends with the guy who filmed the Hybrid DVD tour with Moby. He spoke to him the other night and he said that the reason the DVD
    Message 1 of 11 , Dec 4, 2001
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      A mate of mine at work is friends with the guy who filmed the Hybrid DVD
      tour with Moby. He spoke to him the other night and he said that the reason
      the DVD is being delayed is something to do with Moby not clearing the
      release of some of his songs that appear on the DVD, or something like that.
      I'm trying to get a promo copy, so fingers crossed.

      john.
    • breakbeatreveler
      Moby is the whore of lending songs to commericals etc. As long as it does not pertain to alcohol, cigarettes, or go against human or animal rights, Moby is the
      Message 2 of 11 , Dec 4, 2001
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        Moby is the whore of lending songs to commericals etc.
        As long as it does not pertain to alcohol, cigarettes,
        or go against human or animal rights, Moby is the
        first (well his record company V2 legal department) is
        the first to say, here is the song.

        If he or his label are delaying the hybrid release
        becuase of of small print finalities that is crap. I
        am so sick and tired of Moby this, Moby than, when
        there is a wealth of other musical talent in need of
        talent illumination. Sorry to get off track by Play
        and Re-play Remix album are so boring at this point
        that the name moby is synomonous with mundane.


        > A mate of mine at work is friends with the guy who
        > filmed the Hybrid DVD
        > tour with Moby. He spoke to him the other night and
        > he said that the reason
        > the DVD is being delayed is something to do with
        > Moby not clearing the
        > release of some of his songs that appear on the DVD,
        > or something like that.
        > I'm trying to get a promo copy, so fingers crossed.
      • EvilAlivE@aol.com
        In a message dated 12/4/01 6:08:51 PM Central Standard Time, ... actually.. i hear dthat whomeever he does let use his song commercially, he takes the money to
        Message 3 of 11 , Dec 4, 2001
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          In a message dated 12/4/01 6:08:51 PM Central Standard Time, celticslang@... writes:


          Moby is the whore of lending songs to commericals etc.
          As long as it does not pertain to alcohol, cigarettes,
          or go against human or animal rights, Moby is the


          actually.. i hear dthat whomeever he does let use his song commercially, he takes the money to use.. against them... like.. for instance... a car commercial... he'll donate it to like a coorp thats trying to develope an engine that runs onw ater...

          maybe thats not a good analogy. but along those lines... uses their own money against them.. which i think is pretty admirable
        • Simon Chilvers
          ... Sorry to say this but Moby s particular brand of musical magic seems to have worked on you..... After all you are the one that went out and bought Play and
          Message 4 of 11 , Dec 5, 2001
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            >Sorry to get off track by Play and Re-play Remix
            >album are so boring at this point that the name moby
            >is synomonous with mundane.

            Sorry to say this but Moby's particular brand of
            musical magic seems to have worked on you..... After
            all you are the one that went out and bought Play and
            Re-Play.... I don't understand why you bought them if
            you thought they were "boring" and "Mundane"

            Simon
          • Antti Mutta
            I agree with Breakbreatreveler on this. Moby hasn t been good since Go and other oldies goldies. The remixes are good though, I just love Futureshock s version
            Message 5 of 11 , Dec 5, 2001
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              I agree with Breakbreatreveler on this. Moby hasn't been good since Go and other oldies goldies.
              The remixes are good though, I just love Futureshock's version of Porcelain.

              -antti

              > Sorry to say this but Moby's particular brand of
              > musical magic seems to have worked on you..... After
              > all you are the one that went out and bought Play and
              > Re-Play.... I don't understand why you bought them if
              > you thought they were "boring" and "Mundane"
              >
              > Simon
            • breakbeatreveler
              No, never said I picked up the albums, just that I feel that the US music scene, which is so non-dance oriented commercially, got sucked into Moby s vortex of
              Message 6 of 11 , Dec 5, 2001
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                No, never said I picked up the albums, just that I
                feel that the US music scene, which is so non-dance
                oriented commercially, got sucked into Moby's vortex
                of Primitive Radio Gods type of pop-electronica, and
                yes, Moby is pop-electronica which makes my skin
                crawl.

                I never elected Moby to be my dance music emmissary or
                envoy to the world, it just so happened I lucked out
                and was not born in the UK where I find the artists I
                listen to are a bit more passionate about their music
                and less geared towards a commercial whoring their
                album for every possible cent for every advertisement
                possible, regardless if it supports a cause or
                not.....there has to be some restraint exhibited by
                the artist (hey, that's enough), and it just shows
                that the corporate America reads Rolling Stone
                Magazine (for the most part) to gain ideas on good
                American dance-cum-electronic(a) music, which
                certainly isn't Moby and in my opinion never was.

                Sad to say that if Moby duplicate's this sound mold he
                has generated for himself on Play on his next album,
                we will probably be hearing stale James Taylor-styled
                coastal guitars and flamingo beats.......again, my
                skin is crawling and I pray for a savior other than BT
                to carry the US scene forward and to become something
                is already isn't......

                > Sorry to say this but Moby's particular brand of
                > musical magic seems to have worked on you..... After
                > all you are the one that went out and bought Play
                > and
                > Re-Play.... I don't understand why you bought them
                > if
                > you thought they were "boring" and "Mundane"
                >
                > Simon
              • Stuart Bruce
                Now there s a blinkered view of commercialisation for you... why is it that almost any artist- such as Moby and BT, two of the most common victims- who s
                Message 7 of 11 , Dec 5, 2001
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                  Now there's a blinkered view of 'commercialisation' for you... why is
                  it that almost any artist- such as Moby and BT, two of the most common
                  victims- who's been on the "fringe" for a while, can't have commercial
                  success without suddenly being accused of being a "sell-out" and
                  attracting such violently acidic and hostile reactions?

                  It's a constant cycle where the fans complain that an artist isn't
                  getting enough exposure and isn't should be more widely appreciated than
                  he is... and then, suddenly, once they're commercially successful and
                  enjoying attention, they're accused of selling out, and all that.

                  I remember the days when Moby's "Play" first came out. alongside singles
                  like "Honey" which, first time around, did very little in the Uk charts.
                  There was plenty of praise going around for Moby, whose neat,
                  'alternative' little album called "Play" was another of Moby's brave
                  attempts to try different styles and play with music that he wants to
                  write, rather than just trying to churn out stuff that sounds like "Go"
                  in order to have commercial success.

                  For many months "Play" was an underplayed, mostly ignored little album-
                  until factors (which I firmly believe were beyond Moby's control)
                  contrived to get certain tracks noticed. Moby's policy on music being
                  used for adverts changed so that he would give the money to companies
                  supporting the environment and anything that the product his music
                  endorses might be damaging. Meanwhile "Play" blew out of all proportion.

                  ...but has Moby done *anything* differently to before, or has he changed
                  his outlook at all? No. He keeps on touring, now to bigger crowds,
                  promoting his music. He is no more a "commercial whore" than he was when
                  his records didn't sell very well.

                  I can't help but wonder whether, if Hybrid were to suddenly have a
                  number one hit internationally and their music started appearing all
                  over the place, some people here would slag it off, not because Hybrid
                  were doing anything differently, but just because they're now famous.
                  And to be honest, this anti-Moby attitude, and this anti-BT attitude
                  ("what a sell-out") is very, very boring.

                  Stuart.

                  --
                  Stuart Bruce
                  stuart@...
                • Jason Fransella
                  Not to carry on off topic, but I m going to carry on off topic. I have no problem with BT s commercial success, or the chemical bros or Fatboy Slim for that
                  Message 8 of 11 , Dec 6, 2001
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                    Not to carry on off topic, but I'm going to carry on off topic.

                    I have no problem with BT's commercial success, or the chemical bros or
                    Fatboy Slim for that matter.

                    For some reason Moby just rubs me the wrong way. He's very
                    anti-establisment, anti-pop in his presentation. Yet to me it seems
                    like an image to sell his product. He courts the media like very few
                    others do.

                    Also, his compositional style has become MUCH more radio-play/mass
                    consumer single oriented. Whereas his older tracks would go all over
                    the place and explore, his new tracks fit a very rigid single structure.


                    Although I appreciate his talents, he seems a little fake. I don't
                    think he's changed much over the years. I think he's always been a
                    little fake 8D

                    Jason
                  • Refused3
                    i agree. while i may not be a huge fan of moby, i feel that the music should be the utmost priority in judging whether or not a given artist is selling out
                    Message 9 of 11 , Dec 6, 2001
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                      i agree. while i may not be a huge fan of moby, i feel that the music
                      should be the utmost priority in judging whether or not a given artist is
                      "selling out" or "whoring the commercial scene." Listen to BT, an artist
                      (for the most part) that i like alot. Listen to a song and then tell me
                      whether or not you give a shit that he's popular. If you liked the song
                      until it became "popular" and then suddenly decided it was a poorly
                      written/produced un-stylized piece of crap, then you're simply showing a
                      selfish side of yourself. Now listen to what truely is a commercial success
                      by means of money, such as brittney spears. If you like the song you listen
                      to, please, please remove yourself from the hybrid discussion group. (joke)
                      But if you dont like the song because it truely sounds like everything else
                      "big" on the charts, that is an example of commercial whoring. But
                      basically my point is that when even REMOTELY good music makes it big in the
                      charts, we should be rejoicing that it's not money driven, pitch corrected,
                      poster boy/girl junk. And the fore-runners of electronica aren't going to
                      be the best there is. This is true for any type of music. But at least
                      it's somthing, so that when your prep-school polo kid turns on the radio he
                      might be drawn to a small sample of greatness, instead of simply hearing the
                      familiar un-talent that plagues the air-ways.

                      -Vantage

                      vantage-reality@...

                      > Now there's a blinkered view of 'commercialisation' for you... why is
                      > it that almost any artist- such as Moby and BT, two of the most common
                      > victims- who's been on the "fringe" for a while, can't have commercial
                      > success without suddenly being accused of being a "sell-out" and
                      > attracting such violently acidic and hostile reactions?
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                    • propellerheadcase
                      ... actually.. i hear dthat whomeever he does let use his song commercially, he takes the money to use.. against them... like.. for instance... a car
                      Message 10 of 11 , Dec 11, 2001
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                        --- In HybridUK@y..., EvilAlivE@a... wrote:
                        "actually.. i hear dthat whomeever he does let use his song
                        commercially, he takes the money to use.. against them... like.. for
                        instance... a car commercial... he'll donate it to like a coorp thats
                        trying to develope an engine that runs onw ater...

                        maybe thats not a good analogy. but along those lines... uses their
                        own money against them.. which i think is pretty admirable"

                        ...and funny!
                      • propellerheadcase
                        ... What he said. I remember when Skid Row s first album was played on the local Uni radio until their singles sky-rocketed into the charts. And
                        Message 11 of 11 , Dec 11, 2001
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                          >I remember the days when Moby's "Play" first came out. alongside
                          >singles like "Honey" which, first time around, did very little in the
                          >Uk charts. There was plenty of praise going around for Moby, whose
                          >neat, 'alternative' little album called "Play" was another of Moby's
                          >brave attempts to try different styles and play with music that he
                          >wants to write, rather than just trying to churn out stuff that
                          >sounds like "Go" in order to have commercial success.
                          >
                          >For many months "Play" was an underplayed, mostly ignored little
                          >album- until factors (which I firmly believe were beyond Moby's
                          >control) contrived to get certain tracks noticed. Moby's policy on
                          >music being used for adverts changed so that he would give the money
                          >to companies supporting the environment and anything that the product
                          >his music endorses might be damaging. Meanwhile "Play" blew out of
                          >all proportion.
                          </snip>

                          What he said.

                          I remember when Skid Row's first album was played on the local Uni
                          radio until their singles sky-rocketed into the charts.

                          And when everyone called Metqallica's black album a sell-out, etc,
                          etc.

                          Any chance that commercial radio has gone more Moby rather than vice
                          versa? Let's see, the SugaBabes, basically a manufactured band doing
                          very un-SpiceGirls-like music, and a remix by the Capoeira Twins?
                          Yeah, I'd say the charts are getting a bit broader.
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