OT: ET (Re: 'taking off')
- I've listened to it several times and have tried to give it many a
second/third/fifteenth chance. I'm struck every time by how the majority of
the album is directionless and boring. ET seems like a massive ego trip for
this and other reasons; the intensive detail lent to the quality of the
production seems to forsake the quality of the melodies and tracks as a
The handful of vaguely outstanding tracks ("Superfabulous", "Somnambulist",
"Force of Gravity", "The Great Escape") are overshadowed by "Circles", which
could be awesome if BT didn't sound like Bryan Adams gone Avril Lavigne, and
"Animals", in which he channels Richard Marx on several fronts. In fact,
the overpresence of BT's vocals makes the album suffer musically as a whole,
as well as leading me (and many others) to believe this thing really is a
huge ego trip after all.
Also, the line "I've got more knowledge than you can get from the internet"
in "Knowledge of Self" sets a BAAAAD tone for the rest of the disc :-P
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Abrams" <benjabrams@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 2:54 AM
Subject: [Hybrid] Re: 'taking off'
> Is it me? Or is BTs Emotional Technology one of the most derided
> electronica albums of recent times? I get the feeling some people
> see it as a betrayal.
> --- In HybridUK@yahoogroups.com, "Drew Ressler" <rukes@o...> wrote:
>> Yes, you're entitled to your own opinion, but do me a favor and
> don't prattle on about Hybrid when thier last "Y4K" foray left me as
>> cold as you feel about BTs Emotional Technology.
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: georgiou1_1999 [mailto:mario@g...]
>> > You're entitled to your opinion but do us a favour and not
>> > on about BT when his last "Unemotional" foray left me as cold as
>> > feel about Hybrids Y4K ... critics abound and while some of the
>> > tracks on the album left me cold the majority had me enjoying my
>> > time on public transit (which is no mean task).
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- Except that the lyrics are Guru's.
a : a teacher and especially intellectual guide in matters of
b : one who is an acknowledged leader or chief proponent,
c : a person with knowledge or expertise
That kind of braggadocio is typical in rap. Then again, given that
the following line is "I spit wisdom that I get from introspect"
maybe it's not so typical.
Anyway, you named 4 tracks as vaguely outstanding (what does that
mean, BTW) and put 'Circles' and 'Animals' above even those. Six
tracks is half the album! And the pop-ness of it all can't be your
complaint as one of the four "vaguely outstanding" tracks
is 'Superfabulous' - easily the poppiest track on the album.
BT, from the outset, said that he was doing this album to please
himself, so the cries of egotism are entirely appropriate - but you
knew that going in.
--- In HybridUK@yahoogroups.com, G3K <generation_3000@a...> wrote:
Also, the line "I've got more knowledge than you can get from the
internet" in "Knowledge of Self" sets a BAAAAD tone for the rest of
the disc :-P
- In essence I think BT gets too tangled with his incredible production
> talents. It all sounds really good soundwise, but often too hollow. AndI agree. I think its hard for any one person to get it right. Even Prince
> applies to his poptastic tracks as well. There's good pop and then there's
> made pop, which sounds sort of what it's supposed to but lacks the spirit.
> Yeah, I guess I am striving for the word 'plastic' with BT's recent style.
> No disrespect to his talents as a musician, technician and producer, but
> these three and inspired songwriting don't go necessarily hand in hand.
gets idiosynchratic and bizarre at times. And look at how Lennon and McCartney
separately were never the equal of Lennon-McCartney. I think there need to be
multiple heads involved to give balance. BT is very talented - but he has no
And I think thats where Hybrid's partnership somehow helps them. I don't know
who does what internally in their collaborations but they have all the right
- excellent overal production (sometimes just a bit over the top but not as
bad as BT in that regard)
- great beats - I think they use Native Instruments Battery - but they get a
very punchy drum sound with a lot of great grooves (although they tend to
sound the same in some sense - they could work on a bit more variety from track to
- really nice filter swells
- great musical ideas but not very many actual songs (and I am not
particularly looking for commercial pop songs - but just coherent musical ideas. Let me
give you an example : "If I Survive".. starts great with a wonderfully dark
mood ... but then it doesn't seal the deal with a strong chorus, its more of a
great fragment than a complete idea)
- great moods and innovative sound scapes
- Whilst I basically agree I'd have to say that Prince's idiosyncracies
are part of his charm, as so often what he does that shouldn't work,
As for Lennon, well, I'd put 'Imagine' up against pretty much
anything the Beatles did as a whole in that basic style - 'Yesterday'
may be more frequently performed/covered, 'Hey, Jude' may get more
radio play, but 'Imagine' is a better song than both, IMHO.
--- In HybridUK@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@a... wrote:
I agree. I think its hard for any one person to get it right. Even
Prince gets idiosynchratic and bizarre at times. And look at how
Lennon and McCartney separately were never the equal of Lennon-
McCartney. I think there need to be multiple heads involved to give
balance. BT is very talented - but he has no boundaries.