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  • Antreas P. Hatzipolakis
    Let ABC be a triangle, PaPbPc the pedal triangle of P, and IaIbIc the circumcevian triangle of I. Let P a, P b, P c be the reflections of Pa,Pb,Pc in P, resp.
    Message 1 of 26 , Sep 23, 2003
      Let ABC be a triangle, PaPbPc the pedal triangle of P,
      and IaIbIc the circumcevian triangle of I.

      Let P'a, P'b, P'c be the reflections of Pa,Pb,Pc
      in P, resp.

      Which is the locus of P such that
      the triangles IaIbIc and P'aP'bP'c are perspective?

      Antreas
      --
    • Antreas
      Let ABC be a triangle, P a point, Oa,Ob,Oc and Ha,Hb,Hc the circumcenters, orthocenters of PBC,PCA,PAB, resp. The locus of P such that OaObOc, HaHbHc are
      Message 2 of 26 , Jan 22, 2010
        Let ABC be a triangle, P a point, Oa,Ob,Oc and Ha,Hb,Hc the
        circumcenters, orthocenters of PBC,PCA,PAB, resp.

        The locus of P such that OaObOc, HaHbHc are perspective is well-known
        (Euler lines of PBC,PCA,PAB are concurrent).

        Now, let A'B'C', A"B"C" be the cevian, pedal triangles of P, resp.

        Which is the locus of P such that:

        1. A'B'C', OaObOc

        2. A'B'C', HaHbHc

        3. A"B"C", OaObOc

        4. A"B"C", HaHbHc

        are perspective?


        APH
      • Pierre
        Dear Antreas, ... Here, examples are : any, except from circumcircle. 0. OaObOc, HaHbHc : circumcircle and K001, Neuberg cubic. Examples : 1, 3, 4, 13, 14, 15,
        Message 3 of 26 , Jan 24, 2010
          Dear Antreas,

          --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com, "Antreas" <anopolis72@...> wrote:
          > Let ABC be a triangle, P a point, Oa,Ob,Oc and Ha,Hb,Hc the
          > circumcenters, orthocenters of PBC,PCA,PAB, resp.
          > Let A'B'C', A"B"C" be the cevian, pedal triangles of P, resp.
          > Which is the locus of P such that:
          > 0. OaObOc, HaHbHc ... WNR
          > 1. cevian, OaObOc
          > 2. cevian, HaHbHc
          > 3. pedal , OaObOc
          > 4. pedal , HaHbHc
          > are perspective?

          Here, examples are : any, except from circumcircle.

          0. OaObOc, HaHbHc : circumcircle and K001, Neuberg cubic. Examples : 1, 3, 4, 13, 14, 15, 16, 30, 74, 370, 399, 484, 616, 617, 1138, 1157, 1263, 1276, 1277, 1337, 1338, 2132, 2133, 3065, 3440, 3441, 3464, 3465, 3466, 3479, 3480, 3481, 3482, 3483, 3484

          1. cevian, OaObOc : circumcircle and 5th degree curve
          (q^2*c^2-r^2*b^2)*(b^2+c^2-a^2)*p^3+(r^2*a^2-p^2*c^2)*(c^2+a^2-b^2)*q^3+(p^2*b^2-q^2*a^2)*(a^2+b^2-c^2)*r^3=0. Examples : 1, 2, 4, 13, 14, 357, 1113, 1114, 1134, 1136, 1156

          2. cevian, HaHbHc : circumcircle and 7th degree curve. Examples : 4.

          3. pedal , OaObOc : circumcircle and K006 ORTHOCUBIC, pK(X6, X4). Examples : 1, 3, 4, 46, 90, 155, 254, 371, 372, 485, 486, 487, 488.

          4. pedal , HaHbHc : ever. Perspector : P.

          5. anticev , OaObOc : circumcircle and 7th degree. Examples : 1, 6, 13, 14, 399 (1->1, 6->3)

          6. anticev, HaHbHc : 8th degree. Examples : 1,4 (1->9, 4->4)

          7. circumcev , OaObOc : ever. Examples : (P, persp) : [2, 1296], [3, 110], [4, 110], [5, 1291], [6, 1296], [13, 110], [14, 110], [15, 110], [16, 110], [20, 112]...
          In fact, persp= X(110) when P belongs to K001

          Formula : a^2/((q^2*a^2-p^2*b^2)*S[b]*r+(-r^2*a^2+p^2*c^2)*S[c]*q+(q^2*c^2-r^2*b^2)*a^2*p), etc with S[a]=Conway symbol.

          8. circumcev, HaHbHc : circumcircle and 9th degree. Examples : 1.

          Best regards,
          Pierre.
        • Antreas Hatzipolakis
          Dear Pierre Thanks! ... This quintic looks interesting. Is it already listed by Bernard? APH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          Message 4 of 26 , Jan 25, 2010
            Dear Pierre

            Thanks!



            > --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com <Hyacinthos%40yahoogroups.com>,
            > "Antreas" <anopolis72@...> wrote:
            > > Let ABC be a triangle, P a point, Oa,Ob,Oc and Ha,Hb,Hc the
            > > circumcenters, orthocenters of PBC,PCA,PAB, resp.
            > > Let A'B'C', A"B"C" be the cevian, pedal triangles of P, resp.
            > > Which is the locus of P such that:
            > > 0. OaObOc, HaHbHc ... WNR
            > > 1. cevian, OaObOc
            > > are perspective?
            >
            > Here, examples are : any, except from circumcircle.
            >
            > 0. OaObOc, HaHbHc : circumcircle and K001, Neuberg cubic. Examples : 1, 3,
            > 4, 13, 14, 15, 16, 30, 74, 370, 399, 484, 616, 617, 1138, 1157, 1263, 1276,
            > 1277, 1337, 1338, 2132, 2133, 3065, 3440, 3441, 3464, 3465, 3466, 3479,
            > 3480, 3481, 3482, 3483, 3484
            >
            > 1. cevian, OaObOc : circumcircle and 5th degree curve
            > (q^2*c^2-r^2*b^2)*(b^2+c^2-a^2)*p^3+(r^2*a^2-p^2*c^2)*(c^2+a^2-b^2)*q^3+(p^2*b^2-q^2*a^2)*(a^2+b^2-c^2)*r^3=0.
            > Examples : 1, 2, 4, 13, 14, 357, 1113, 1114, 1134, 1136, 1156
            >
            >
            This quintic looks interesting. Is it already listed by Bernard?

            APH


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          • Pierre
            Dear Antreas, ... Yes, you are right ! Q003, the Euler-Morley Quintic. Since there are 95 identified points on Q003, it remains only to obtain 95
            Message 5 of 26 , Jan 25, 2010
              Dear Antreas,
              --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com, Antreas Hatzipolakis <anopolis72@...> wrote:

              > > 1. cevian, OaObOc : circumcircle and 5th degree curve
              > > (q^2*c^2-r^2*b^2)*(b^2+c^2-a^2)*p^3+(r^2*a^2-p^2*c^2)*(c^2+a^2-b^2)*q^3+(p^2*b^2-q^2*a^2)*(a^2+b^2-c^2)*r^3=0.
              > > Examples : 1, 2, 4, 13, 14, 357, 1113, 1114, 1134, 1136, 1156
              > >
              > This quintic looks interesting. Is it already listed by Bernard?

              Yes, you are right ! Q003, the Euler-Morley Quintic.

              Since there are 95 "identified" points on Q003, it remains "only" to obtain 95 interpretations of the property persp(cevian, OaObOc)...

              Best regards.
            • Antreas Hatzipolakis
              Dear Pierre ... Probably are interesting the variations with Orthologic instead of Perspective triangles. Most likely the loci are high degree curves, but it
              Message 6 of 26 , Jan 25, 2010
                Dear Pierre


                > --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com <Hyacinthos%40yahoogroups.com>,
                > "Antreas" <anopolis72@...> wrote:
                > > Let ABC be a triangle, P a point, Oa,Ob,Oc and Ha,Hb,Hc the
                > > circumcenters, orthocenters of PBC,PCA,PAB, resp.
                > > Let A'B'C', A"B"C" be the cevian, pedal triangles of P, resp.
                > > Which is the locus of P such that:
                > > 0. OaObOc, HaHbHc ... WNR
                > > 1. cevian, OaObOc
                > > 2. cevian, HaHbHc
                > > 3. pedal , OaObOc
                > > 4. pedal , HaHbHc
                > > are perspective?
                >
                > Here, examples are : any, except from circumcircle.
                >
                > 0. OaObOc, HaHbHc : circumcircle and K001, Neuberg cubic. Examples : 1, 3,
                > 4, 13, 14, 15, 16, 30, 74, 370, 399, 484, 616, 617, 1138, 1157, 1263, 1276,
                > 1277, 1337, 1338, 2132, 2133, 3065, 3440, 3441, 3464, 3465, 3466, 3479,
                > 3480, 3481, 3482, 3483, 3484
                >
                > 1. cevian, OaObOc : circumcircle and 5th degree curve
                > (q^2*c^2-r^2*b^2)*(b^2+c^2-a^2)*p^3+(r^2*a^2-p^2*c^2)*(c^2+a^2-b^2)*q^3+(p^2*b^2-q^2*a^2)*(a^2+b^2-c^2)*r^3=0.
                > Examples : 1, 2, 4, 13, 14, 357, 1113, 1114, 1134, 1136, 1156
                >
                > 2. cevian, HaHbHc : circumcircle and 7th degree curve. Examples : 4.
                >
                > 3. pedal , OaObOc : circumcircle and K006 ORTHOCUBIC, pK(X6, X4). Examples
                > : 1, 3, 4, 46, 90, 155, 254, 371, 372, 485, 486, 487, 488.
                >
                > 4. pedal , HaHbHc : ever. Perspector : P.
                >
                > 5. anticev , OaObOc : circumcircle and 7th degree. Examples : 1, 6, 13, 14,
                > 399 (1->1, 6->3)
                >
                > 6. anticev, HaHbHc : 8th degree. Examples : 1,4 (1->9, 4->4)
                >
                > 7. circumcev , OaObOc : ever. Examples : (P, persp) : [2, 1296], [3, 110],
                > [4, 110], [5, 1291], [6, 1296], [13, 110], [14, 110], [15, 110], [16, 110],
                > [20, 112]...
                > In fact, persp= X(110) when P belongs to K001
                >
                > Formula :
                > a^2/((q^2*a^2-p^2*b^2)*S[b]*r+(-r^2*a^2+p^2*c^2)*S[c]*q+(q^2*c^2-r^2*b^2)*a^2*p),
                > etc with S[a]=Conway symbol.
                >
                > 8. circumcev, HaHbHc : circumcircle and 9th degree. Examples : 1.
                >
                >

                Probably are interesting the variations with Orthologic instead of
                Perspective triangles.

                Most likely the loci are high degree curves, but it will be interesting to
                find simple points
                lying on these loci.

                For example:
                I think that in the the above case 0 [ ie OaObOc, HaHbHc be orthologic] the
                point I = Incenter
                is on the locus. If so we have a line passing through the two orthologic
                centers and the Schiffler point.

                Greetings

                Antreas


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              • Antreas
                Let ABC be a triangle, P a point and PaPbPc the pedal triangle of P. Let A be the other than P intersection of the circles (Pb, PbP) and (Pc, PcP) and
                Message 7 of 26 , Apr 7 4:11 AM
                  Let ABC be a triangle, P a point and
                  PaPbPc the pedal triangle of P.

                  Let A' be the other than P intersection of
                  the circles (Pb, PbP) and (Pc, PcP)
                  and similarly B', C'.

                  Which is the locus of P such that:

                  1. ABC, A'B'C' are perspective

                  2. PaPbPc, A'B'C' are perspective

                  3. ABC, A'B'C' are orthologic.

                  The triangles PaPbPc, A'B'C' are orthologic.
                  One orthologic center is P. The other one?

                  Antreas
                • Angel
                  ... A B C is the reflection triangle of P(x:y:z) in its pedal triangle. 1. ABC, A B C are perspective if and only if P lies on the orthocubic cubic (Antreas
                  Message 8 of 26 , Apr 7 5:59 AM
                    --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com, "Antreas" <anopolis72@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Let ABC be a triangle, P a point and
                    > PaPbPc the pedal triangle of P.
                    >
                    > Let A' be the other than P intersection of
                    > the circles (Pb, PbP) and (Pc, PcP)
                    > and similarly B', C'.
                    >
                    > Which is the locus of P such that:
                    >
                    > 1. ABC, A'B'C' are perspective
                    >
                    > 2. PaPbPc, A'B'C' are perspective
                    >
                    > 3. ABC, A'B'C' are orthologic.
                    >
                    > The triangles PaPbPc, A'B'C' are orthologic.
                    > One orthologic center is P. The other one?
                    >
                    > Antreas
                    >


                    A'B'C' is the reflection triangle of P(x:y:z) in its pedal triangle.

                    1. ABC, A'B'C' are perspective if and only if P lies on the orthocubic cubic (Antreas P Hatzipolakis and Paul Yiu, Reflections in triangle geometry, Forum Geometricorum, 9 (2009) 301--348. Proposition 26)

                    3. ABC, A'B'C' are orthologic if and only if P lies (infinity lines, circumcircle, McCay Cubic).


                    The triangles PaPbPc, A'B'C' are orthologic.
                    One orthologic center is P(x:y:z). The other one:
                    a^2(2b^2c^2x^2 + c^2(a^2+b^2-c^2)x y + b^2(a^2-b^2+c^2)x z + (a^2b^2-b^4+a^2c^2+2b^2c^2-c^4)y z): ... : ....

                    Angel
                  • Francois Rideau
                    Dear Antreas What do you mean by circle (Pb, PbP)? Friendly Francois ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    Message 9 of 26 , Apr 13 9:17 AM
                      Dear Antreas
                      What do you mean by circle (Pb, PbP)?
                      Friendly
                      Francois

                      On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Antreas <anopolis72@...> wrote:

                      >
                      >
                      > Let ABC be a triangle, P a point and
                      > PaPbPc the pedal triangle of P.
                      >
                      > Let A' be the other than P intersection of
                      > the circles (Pb, PbP) and (Pc, PcP)
                      > and similarly B', C'.
                      >
                      > Which is the locus of P such that:
                      >
                      > 1. ABC, A'B'C' are perspective
                      >
                      > 2. PaPbPc, A'B'C' are perspective
                      >
                      > 3. ABC, A'B'C' are orthologic.
                      >
                      > The triangles PaPbPc, A'B'C' are orthologic.
                      > One orthologic center is P. The other one?
                      >
                      > Antreas
                      >
                      >
                      >


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                    • Antreas Hatzipolakis
                      Dear Francois Circle with center Pb and radius PbP APH On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Francois Rideau ... -- http://anopolis72000.blogspot.com/
                      Message 10 of 26 , Apr 13 10:06 AM
                        Dear Francois

                        Circle with center Pb and radius PbP

                        APH

                        On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Francois Rideau
                        <francois.rideau@...> wrote:
                        > Dear Antreas
                        > What do you mean by circle (Pb, PbP)?
                        > Friendly
                        > Francois
                        >
                        > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Antreas <anopolis72@...> wrote:
                        >
                        >>
                        >>
                        >> Let ABC be a triangle, P a point and
                        >> PaPbPc the pedal triangle of P.
                        >>
                        >> Let A' be the other than P intersection of
                        >> the circles (Pb, PbP) and (Pc, PcP)
                        >> and similarly B', C'.
                        >>
                        >> Which is the locus of P such that:
                        >>
                        >> 1. ABC, A'B'C' are perspective
                        >>
                        >> 2. PaPbPc, A'B'C' are perspective
                        >>
                        >> 3. ABC, A'B'C' are orthologic.
                        >>
                        >> The triangles PaPbPc, A'B'C' are orthologic.
                        >> One orthologic center is P. The other one?
                        >>
                        >> Antreas
                        >>
                        >>
                        >>
                        >
                        >
                        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        >
                        >
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                      • Antreas
                        Let ABC be a triangle, P a point, A B C the pedal triangle of P and L the Euler line of ABC. Let La,Lb,Lc be the reflections of L in the PA ,PB ,PC , resp.
                        Message 11 of 26 , Aug 3, 2010
                          Let ABC be a triangle, P a point, A'B'C'
                          the pedal triangle of P and L the Euler
                          line of ABC.

                          Let La,Lb,Lc be the reflections of L in the
                          PA',PB',PC', resp.

                          Which is the locus of P such that
                          ABC, Triangle bounded by (La,Lb,Lc) are parallelogic?

                          Antiedal triangle version:

                          Let ABC be a triangle, P a point, A'B'C'
                          the antipedal triangle of P and L the Euler
                          line of A'B'C'. Let La,Lb,Lc be the reflections
                          of L in the PA,PB,PC, resp.

                          Which is the locus of P such that
                          A'B'C', Triangle bounded by (La,Lb,Lc) are parallelogic?

                          Are the simple points O,H,I lying on the locus?

                          APH
                        • Angel
                          ... ABC and Triangle bounded by (La,Lb,Lc) are parallelogic = the parallels through A,B,C to La,Lb,Lc, resp. concur on a point U U=X(265) for every point P of
                          Message 12 of 26 , Aug 4, 2010
                            --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com, "Antreas" <anopolis72@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Let ABC be a triangle, P a point, A'B'C'
                            > the pedal triangle of P and L the Euler
                            > line of ABC.
                            >
                            > Let La,Lb,Lc be the reflections of L in the
                            > PA',PB',PC', resp.
                            >
                            > Which is the locus of P such that
                            > ABC, Triangle bounded by (La,Lb,Lc) are parallelogic?

                            > APH
                            >


                            ABC and Triangle bounded by (La,Lb,Lc) are parallelogic =
                            the parallels through A,B,C to La,Lb,Lc, resp. concur on a point U

                            U=X(265) for every point P of the plane


                            Angel
                          • Antreas
                            Let ABC be a triangle, P a point, PaPbPc the pedal (or cevian) triangle of P, and (Ia),(Ib),(Ic) the excircles. Let (Oa) be the circle passing through Pb, Pc
                            Message 13 of 26 , Sep 7, 2010
                              Let ABC be a triangle, P a point, PaPbPc the pedal (or cevian)
                              triangle of P, and (Ia),(Ib),(Ic) the excircles.

                              Let (Oa) be the circle passing through Pb, Pc and touching
                              externally (or internally) the circle (Ia) at Qa.

                              Similarly (Ob),(Oc) and Qb,Qc.

                              Which is the locus of P such that

                              1. ABC, OaObOc

                              2. ABC, QaQbQc

                              are perspective?

                              (There are four variations:
                              pedal/cevian - externally/internally)

                              APH
                            • Angel
                              Dear Antreas TWO PARTICULAR CASES ... - PaPbPc the cevian triangle of G (PaPbPc the medial triangle). Let (Oa) be the circle passing through Pb, Pc and
                              Message 14 of 26 , Sep 9, 2010
                                Dear Antreas

                                TWO PARTICULAR CASES
                                ----------------------------------------

                                - PaPbPc the cevian triangle of G (PaPbPc the medial triangle).

                                Let (Oa) be the circle passing through Pb, Pc and touching
                                internally the circle (Ia) at Qa. Similarly (Ob),(Oc) and Qb,Qc.

                                Perspector of ABC and QaQbQc:

                                ( (b+c-a)(b+c)^2 : (c+a-b)(c+a)^2 : (a+b-c)(a+b)^2 )

                                Radical center of (Oa), (Ob), (Oc):

                                (a (a^2(b + c) + 2 a (b^2 + 3 b c + c^2) + (b + c)^3): ... : ...)

                                -----------------------

                                - PaPbPc the cevian triangle of H (PaPbPc the orthic triangle)
                                Let (Oa) be the circle passing through Pb, Pc and touching
                                internally the circle (Ia) at Qa. Similarly (Ob),(Oc) and Qb,Qc.

                                Perspector of ABC and QaQbQc:

                                ( (b+c)^2/(b+c-a)^3 : (c+a)^2/(c+a-b)^3 : (a+b)^2/(a+b-c)^3 )

                                Radical center of (Oa), (Ob), (Oc): X(1829) = ZOSMA TRANSFORM OF X(10)

                                (a (a^5(b + c) + a^4(b^2 + c^2) - a(b - c)^2 (b + c)^3 - (b^2-c^2)^2 (b^2 + c^2)): ... : ...)

                                Best regards,

                                Angel

                                --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com, "Antreas" <anopolis72@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > Let ABC be a triangle, P a point, PaPbPc the pedal (or cevian)
                                > triangle of P, and (Ia),(Ib),(Ic) the excircles.
                                >
                                > Let (Oa) be the circle passing through Pb, Pc and touching
                                > externally (or internally) the circle (Ia) at Qa.
                                >
                                > Similarly (Ob),(Oc) and Qb,Qc.
                                >
                                > Which is the locus of P such that
                                >
                                > 1. ABC, OaObOc
                                >
                                > 2. ABC, QaQbQc
                                >
                                > are perspective?
                                >
                                > (There are four variations:
                                > pedal/cevian - externally/internally)
                                >
                                > APH
                                >
                              • Antreas
                                Let ABC be a triangle, P a point and Ab,Ac points on AB,AC, resp. (on the same size of BC) such that: area(PBC) = area(PBAb) = area(PCAc). Similarly the points
                                Message 15 of 26 , May 5, 2011
                                  Let ABC be a triangle, P a point and Ab,Ac points on AB,AC, resp.
                                  (on the same size of BC) such that:
                                  area(PBC) = area(PBAb) = area(PCAc).

                                  Similarly the points Bc,Ba and Ca,Cb.

                                  Which is the locus of P such that the triangles: ABC, Triangle
                                  bounded by AbAc,BcBa,CaCb are perspective?
                                  (Special case: AbAc,BcBa,CaCb are concurrent)

                                  APH
                                • Francisco Javier
                                  Dear Antreas: The lines AbAc,BcBa,CaCb are always parallel to the trilinear polar of P. Best regards, Francisco Javier.
                                  Message 16 of 26 , May 5, 2011
                                    Dear Antreas:

                                    The lines AbAc,BcBa,CaCb are always parallel to the trilinear polar of P.

                                    Best regards,

                                    Francisco Javier.

                                    --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com, "Antreas" <anopolis72@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > Let ABC be a triangle, P a point and Ab,Ac points on AB,AC, resp.
                                    > (on the same size of BC) such that:
                                    > area(PBC) = area(PBAb) = area(PCAc).
                                    >
                                    > Similarly the points Bc,Ba and Ca,Cb.
                                    >
                                    > Which is the locus of P such that the triangles: ABC, Triangle
                                    > bounded by AbAc,BcBa,CaCb are perspective?
                                    > (Special case: AbAc,BcBa,CaCb are concurrent)
                                    >
                                    > APH
                                    >
                                  • Francisco Javier
                                    And, if lines AbAc, BcBa, CaCb intersect the lines BC, CA, AB at A , B , C , then lines AA , BB , CC are parallel to the polar trilineal of isotomic conjugate
                                    Message 17 of 26 , May 6, 2011
                                      And, if lines AbAc, BcBa, CaCb intersect the lines BC, CA, AB at A', B', C', then lines AA', BB', CC' are parallel to the polar trilineal of isotomic conjugate of P.

                                      --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com, "Francisco Javier" <garciacapitan@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > Dear Antreas:
                                      >
                                      > The lines AbAc,BcBa,CaCb are always parallel to the trilinear polar of P.
                                      >
                                      > Best regards,
                                      >
                                      > Francisco Javier.
                                      >
                                      > --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com, "Antreas" <anopolis72@> wrote:
                                      > >
                                      > > Let ABC be a triangle, P a point and Ab,Ac points on AB,AC, resp.
                                      > > (on the same size of BC) such that:
                                      > > area(PBC) = area(PBAb) = area(PCAc).
                                      > >
                                      > > Similarly the points Bc,Ba and Ca,Cb.
                                      > >
                                      > > Which is the locus of P such that the triangles: ABC, Triangle
                                      > > bounded by AbAc,BcBa,CaCb are perspective?
                                      > > (Special case: AbAc,BcBa,CaCb are concurrent)
                                      > >
                                      > > APH
                                      > >
                                      >
                                    • Antreas
                                      Let ABC be a triangle and A B C , A B C the cevian, pedal triangles of P, resp. Denote: Ab, Ac = the reflections of A in BB , CC Bc, Ba = the reflections of
                                      Message 18 of 26 , Feb 25, 2013
                                        Let ABC be a triangle and A'B'C', A"B"C" the cevian, pedal
                                        triangles of P, resp.

                                        Denote:

                                        Ab, Ac = the reflections of A' in BB', CC'

                                        Bc, Ba = the reflections of B' in CC', AA'

                                        Ca, Cb = the reflections of C' in AA', BB'

                                        Ea, Eb, Ec = the Euler Lines of A'AbAc, B'BcBa, C'CaCb, resp. (concurrent at P = common circumcenter of the triangles)

                                        La, Lb, Lc = the parallels through A",B",C" to Ea,Eb,Ec, resp.

                                        For P = I, the lines La,Lb,Lc concur on the pedal circle of I.
                                        (antipode of Feuerbach point)

                                        For P = H (A'B'C' = A"B"C") the lines La,Lb,Lc concur
                                        on the pedal circle of H (=NPC).

                                        Which is the point of concurrence?

                                        In general:
                                        Which is the locus of P such that the lines La,Lb,Lc
                                        are concurrent?

                                        Antreas
                                      • Angel
                                        Dear Antreas, If P=I the lines La,Lb,Lc intersect at X(1317) is the antipode of Feuerbach point on the incircle. If P=H the lines La,Lb,Lc concur in X(1986)=
                                        Message 19 of 26 , Feb 26, 2013
                                          Dear Antreas,

                                          If P=I the lines La,Lb,Lc intersect at X(1317) is the antipode of Feuerbach point on the incircle.

                                          If P=H the lines La,Lb,Lc concur in X(1986)= HATZIPOLAKIS REFLECTION POINT (Antreas Hatzipolakis,Hyacinthos 7868,9/12/03;coordinates by Barry Wolk,Hyacinthos 7876,9/13/03)

                                          X(1986)=(a^2(4SA^2-b^2c^2)(a^2(SA^2-SB SC)-SA(c^2-b^2)^2)/SA: ... : ...)


                                          In general:
                                          The lines La,Lb,Lc are concurrent if P is on the algebraic curve (Gamma) of degree nine (SA, SB, SC usual Conway notation):


                                          (SA+SB)^3(SA+SC)(SA*SB-2SA*SC+SB*SC)x^6y^3-

                                          (SA+SB)^3(SA+SC)(5SA*SB+5SA*SC-4SB*SC)x^5y^4+

                                          (SA+SB)^3(SB+SC)(5SA*SB-4SA*SC+5SB*SC)x^4y^5-

                                          (SA+SB)^3(SB+SC)(SA*SB+SA*SC-2SB*SC)x^3y^6+

                                          (SA+SB)^2x^2y^2z((-SA-SC)(-4SA^2SB+SA(5SA-3SB)SC+(SA+SB)SC^2)x^4-
                                          2(SA+SC)(SA(SB-SC)^2+5SA^2(SB+SC)+SB*SC(SB+SC))x^3y-
                                          4(SA-SB)SC(SB*SC+SA(SB+SC))x^2y^2+
                                          2(SB+SC)(SA^2(SB+SC)+SB*SC(5SB+SC)+SA(5SB^2-2SB*SC+SC^2))x*y^3+
                                          (SB+SC)(-SA(4SB-SC)(SB+SC)+SB*SC(5SB+SC))y^4)+

                                          (SA+SB)x*y*z^2((SA+SC)^2(SA*SB(5SA+SB)-(4SA-SB)(SA+SB)SC)x^5-
                                          (SA+SC)(SA^2(19SB-14SC)(SB+SC)+SB^2SC(7SB+11*SC)+
                                          SA*SB(7SB^2-8SB*SC-3SC^2))x^3y^2+(SB+SC)*
                                          (SA^2SB(7SA+19SB)+SA(7SA^2-8SA*SB+5SB^2)SC+
                                          (11SA-14SB)(SA+SB)SC^2)x^2y^3-(SB+SC)^2(SA*SB(SA+5SB)+
                                          (SA-4SB)(SA+SB)SC)y^5)+

                                          (SA+SB)z^3((-(SA+SC)^3)(-2SA*SB+
                                          (SA+SB)SC)x^6+2(SA+SC)^2(SA(SB-SC)^2+5SA^2(SB+SC)+
                                          SB*SC(SB+SC))x^5y-(SA+SC)(SA^2(14SB-19SC)*

                                          (SB+SC)-SB*SC^2(11SB+7SC)+SA*SC(3SB^2+8SB*SC-7SC^2))*
                                          x^4y^2+(SB+SC)(SA^2(14SB-11SC)(SB+SC)-
                                          SB*SC^2(19SB+7SC)+SA*SC(-5SB^2+8SB*SC-7SC^2))*
                                          x^2y^4-2(SB+SC)^2(SA^2(SB+SC)+SB*SC(5SB+SC)+
                                          SA(5SB^2-2SB*SC+SC^2))x*y^5+(SB+SC)^3(-2SA*SB+(SA+SB)SC)*y^6)+

                                          ((SA+SB)(SA+SC)^3(-4SB*SC+5SA(SB+SC))x^5+

                                          4SB(SA-SC)(SA+SC)^2(SB*SC+SA(SB+SC))x^4y-

                                          (SA+SC)(SB+SC)(SA^2SB(7SA+11SB)+
                                          SA(7SA^2-8SA*SB-3SB^2)SC+(19SA-14SB)(SA+SB)SC^2)x^3y^2+

                                          (SA+SC)(SB+SC)(SA^2(11SB-14SC)(SB+SC)+
                                          SB^2SC(7SB+19SC)+SA*SB(7SB^2-8SB*SC+5SC^2))x^2y^3-

                                          4SA(SB-SC)(SB+SC)^2(SB*SC+SA(SB+SC))x*y^4-

                                          (SA+SB)(SB+SC)^3(5SA*SB-4SA*SC+5SB*SC)y^5)z^4-

                                          (SA+SC)(SB+SC)((SA+SC)x^2-(SB+SC)y^2)((SA+SC)(-4SA*SB+5(SA+SB)SC)x^2+
                                          2(SA*SB(SA+SB)+(SA-SB)^2SC+5(SA+SB)SC^2)x*y+
                                          (SB+SC)(-4SA*SB+5(SA+SB)SC)y^2)z^5+

                                          (SA+SC)(SB+SC)((SA+SC)(-2SB*SC+SA(SB+SC))x-(SB+SC)(SA(SB-2SC)+SB*SC)y)*(SA*x^2+SB*y^2+SC(x+y)^2)z^6 =0


                                          (There must be a better simplification of this equation!)


                                          This curve (Gamma) contains points isodynamic (X13, X14) but the corresponding triangles AAbAc, BBcBa and CCaCb are equilateral.

                                          The triangle center X(74) -isogonal conjugate of Euler infinity point- is on the curve (Gamma) and the Euler Lines of A'AbAc, B'BcBa, C'CaCb
                                          passing through A'', B'', C'' resp. (concurrent at X74 = common circumcenter of the triangles).


                                          Best regards
                                          Angel Montesdeoca

                                          --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com, "Antreas" <anopolis72@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > Let ABC be a triangle and A'B'C', A"B"C" the cevian, pedal
                                          > triangles of P, resp.
                                          >
                                          > Denote:
                                          >
                                          > Ab, Ac = the reflections of A' in BB', CC'
                                          >
                                          > Bc, Ba = the reflections of B' in CC', AA'
                                          >
                                          > Ca, Cb = the reflections of C' in AA', BB'
                                          >
                                          > Ea, Eb, Ec = the Euler Lines of A'AbAc, B'BcBa, C'CaCb, resp. (concurrent at P = common circumcenter of the triangles)
                                          >
                                          > La, Lb, Lc = the parallels through A",B",C" to Ea,Eb,Ec, resp.
                                          >
                                          > For P = I, the lines La,Lb,Lc concur on the pedal circle of I.
                                          > (antipode of Feuerbach point)
                                          >
                                          > For P = H (A'B'C' = A"B"C") the lines La,Lb,Lc concur
                                          > on the pedal circle of H (=NPC).
                                          >
                                          > Which is the point of concurrence?
                                          >
                                          > In general:
                                          > Which is the locus of P such that the lines La,Lb,Lc
                                          > are concurrent?
                                          >
                                          > Antreas
                                          >
                                        • Angel
                                          More information on the algebraic curve of degree nine (Gamma): - Passes through the vertices of the triangle ABC. - The vertices are multiple points of order
                                          Message 20 of 26 , Feb 26, 2013
                                            More information on the algebraic curve of degree nine (Gamma):

                                            - Passes through the vertices of the triangle ABC.

                                            - The vertices are multiple points of order 3.

                                            - The real tangents at the vertices of ABC intersect at the point X(74).


                                            Angel M.

                                            --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com, "Angel" <amontes1949@...> wrote:
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Dear Antreas,
                                            >
                                            > If P=I the lines La,Lb,Lc intersect at X(1317) is the antipode of Feuerbach point on the incircle.
                                            >
                                            > If P=H the lines La,Lb,Lc concur in X(1986)= HATZIPOLAKIS REFLECTION POINT (Antreas Hatzipolakis,Hyacinthos 7868,9/12/03;coordinates by Barry Wolk,Hyacinthos 7876,9/13/03)
                                            >
                                            > X(1986)=(a^2(4SA^2-b^2c^2)(a^2(SA^2-SB SC)-SA(c^2-b^2)^2)/SA: ... : ...)
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > In general:
                                            > The lines La,Lb,Lc are concurrent if P is on the algebraic curve (Gamma) of degree nine (SA, SB, SC usual Conway notation):
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > (SA+SB)^3(SA+SC)(SA*SB-2SA*SC+SB*SC)x^6y^3-
                                            >
                                            > (SA+SB)^3(SA+SC)(5SA*SB+5SA*SC-4SB*SC)x^5y^4+
                                            >
                                            > (SA+SB)^3(SB+SC)(5SA*SB-4SA*SC+5SB*SC)x^4y^5-
                                            >
                                            > (SA+SB)^3(SB+SC)(SA*SB+SA*SC-2SB*SC)x^3y^6+
                                            >
                                            > (SA+SB)^2x^2y^2z((-SA-SC)(-4SA^2SB+SA(5SA-3SB)SC+(SA+SB)SC^2)x^4-
                                            > 2(SA+SC)(SA(SB-SC)^2+5SA^2(SB+SC)+SB*SC(SB+SC))x^3y-
                                            > 4(SA-SB)SC(SB*SC+SA(SB+SC))x^2y^2+
                                            > 2(SB+SC)(SA^2(SB+SC)+SB*SC(5SB+SC)+SA(5SB^2-2SB*SC+SC^2))x*y^3+
                                            > (SB+SC)(-SA(4SB-SC)(SB+SC)+SB*SC(5SB+SC))y^4)+
                                            >
                                            > (SA+SB)x*y*z^2((SA+SC)^2(SA*SB(5SA+SB)-(4SA-SB)(SA+SB)SC)x^5-
                                            > (SA+SC)(SA^2(19SB-14SC)(SB+SC)+SB^2SC(7SB+11*SC)+
                                            > SA*SB(7SB^2-8SB*SC-3SC^2))x^3y^2+(SB+SC)*
                                            > (SA^2SB(7SA+19SB)+SA(7SA^2-8SA*SB+5SB^2)SC+
                                            > (11SA-14SB)(SA+SB)SC^2)x^2y^3-(SB+SC)^2(SA*SB(SA+5SB)+
                                            > (SA-4SB)(SA+SB)SC)y^5)+
                                            >
                                            > (SA+SB)z^3((-(SA+SC)^3)(-2SA*SB+
                                            > (SA+SB)SC)x^6+2(SA+SC)^2(SA(SB-SC)^2+5SA^2(SB+SC)+
                                            > SB*SC(SB+SC))x^5y-(SA+SC)(SA^2(14SB-19SC)*
                                            >
                                            > (SB+SC)-SB*SC^2(11SB+7SC)+SA*SC(3SB^2+8SB*SC-7SC^2))*
                                            > x^4y^2+(SB+SC)(SA^2(14SB-11SC)(SB+SC)-
                                            > SB*SC^2(19SB+7SC)+SA*SC(-5SB^2+8SB*SC-7SC^2))*
                                            > x^2y^4-2(SB+SC)^2(SA^2(SB+SC)+SB*SC(5SB+SC)+
                                            > SA(5SB^2-2SB*SC+SC^2))x*y^5+(SB+SC)^3(-2SA*SB+(SA+SB)SC)*y^6)+
                                            >
                                            > ((SA+SB)(SA+SC)^3(-4SB*SC+5SA(SB+SC))x^5+
                                            >
                                            > 4SB(SA-SC)(SA+SC)^2(SB*SC+SA(SB+SC))x^4y-
                                            >
                                            > (SA+SC)(SB+SC)(SA^2SB(7SA+11SB)+
                                            > SA(7SA^2-8SA*SB-3SB^2)SC+(19SA-14SB)(SA+SB)SC^2)x^3y^2+
                                            >
                                            > (SA+SC)(SB+SC)(SA^2(11SB-14SC)(SB+SC)+
                                            > SB^2SC(7SB+19SC)+SA*SB(7SB^2-8SB*SC+5SC^2))x^2y^3-
                                            >
                                            > 4SA(SB-SC)(SB+SC)^2(SB*SC+SA(SB+SC))x*y^4-
                                            >
                                            > (SA+SB)(SB+SC)^3(5SA*SB-4SA*SC+5SB*SC)y^5)z^4-
                                            >
                                            > (SA+SC)(SB+SC)((SA+SC)x^2-(SB+SC)y^2)((SA+SC)(-4SA*SB+5(SA+SB)SC)x^2+
                                            > 2(SA*SB(SA+SB)+(SA-SB)^2SC+5(SA+SB)SC^2)x*y+
                                            > (SB+SC)(-4SA*SB+5(SA+SB)SC)y^2)z^5+
                                            >
                                            > (SA+SC)(SB+SC)((SA+SC)(-2SB*SC+SA(SB+SC))x-(SB+SC)(SA(SB-2SC)+SB*SC)y)*(SA*x^2+SB*y^2+SC(x+y)^2)z^6 =0
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > (There must be a better simplification of this equation!)
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > This curve (Gamma) contains points isodynamic (X13, X14) but the corresponding triangles AAbAc, BBcBa and CCaCb are equilateral.
                                            >
                                            > The triangle center X(74) -isogonal conjugate of Euler infinity point- is on the curve (Gamma) and the Euler Lines of A'AbAc, B'BcBa, C'CaCb
                                            > passing through A'', B'', C'' resp. (concurrent at X74 = common circumcenter of the triangles).
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Best regards
                                            > Angel Montesdeoca
                                            >
                                            > --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com, "Antreas" <anopolis72@> wrote:
                                            > >
                                            > > Let ABC be a triangle and A'B'C', A"B"C" the cevian, pedal
                                            > > triangles of P, resp.
                                            > >
                                            > > Denote:
                                            > >
                                            > > Ab, Ac = the reflections of A' in BB', CC'
                                            > >
                                            > > Bc, Ba = the reflections of B' in CC', AA'
                                            > >
                                            > > Ca, Cb = the reflections of C' in AA', BB'
                                            > >
                                            > > Ea, Eb, Ec = the Euler Lines of A'AbAc, B'BcBa, C'CaCb, resp. (concurrent at P = common circumcenter of the triangles)
                                            > >
                                            > > La, Lb, Lc = the parallels through A",B",C" to Ea,Eb,Ec, resp.
                                            > >
                                            > > For P = I, the lines La,Lb,Lc concur on the pedal circle of I.
                                            > > (antipode of Feuerbach point)
                                            > >
                                            > > For P = H (A'B'C' = A"B"C") the lines La,Lb,Lc concur
                                            > > on the pedal circle of H (=NPC).
                                            > >
                                            > > Which is the point of concurrence?
                                            > >
                                            > > In general:
                                            > > Which is the locus of P such that the lines La,Lb,Lc
                                            > > are concurrent?
                                            > >
                                            > > Antreas
                                            > >
                                            >
                                          • Antreas Hatzipolakis
                                            Dear Angel Thank you. I came to this configuration trying to find three homocentric (concentric) circles but not by construction (ie not by taking a point as
                                            Message 21 of 26 , Feb 26, 2013
                                              Dear Angel

                                              Thank you.

                                              I came to this configuration trying to find three homocentric (concentric)
                                              circles
                                              but not by construction (ie not by taking a point as center).

                                              Antreas



                                              On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Angel <amontes1949@...> wrote:

                                              > **
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > Dear Antreas,
                                              >
                                              > If P=I the lines La,Lb,Lc intersect at X(1317) is the antipode of
                                              > Feuerbach point on the incircle.
                                              >
                                              > If P=H the lines La,Lb,Lc concur in X(1986)= HATZIPOLAKIS REFLECTION POINT
                                              > (Antreas Hatzipolakis,Hyacinthos 7868,9/12/03;coordinates by Barry
                                              > Wolk,Hyacinthos 7876,9/13/03)
                                              >
                                              > X(1986)=(a^2(4SA^2-b^2c^2)(a^2(SA^2-SB SC)-SA(c^2-b^2)^2)/SA: ... : ...)
                                              >
                                              > In general:
                                              > The lines La,Lb,Lc are concurrent if P is on the algebraic curve (Gamma)
                                              > of degree nine (SA, SB, SC usual Conway notation):
                                              >
                                              > (SA+SB)^3(SA+SC)(SA*SB-2SA*SC+SB*SC)x^6y^3-
                                              >
                                              > (SA+SB)^3(SA+SC)(5SA*SB+5SA*SC-4SB*SC)x^5y^4+
                                              >
                                              > (SA+SB)^3(SB+SC)(5SA*SB-4SA*SC+5SB*SC)x^4y^5-
                                              >
                                              > (SA+SB)^3(SB+SC)(SA*SB+SA*SC-2SB*SC)x^3y^6+
                                              >
                                              > (SA+SB)^2x^2y^2z((-SA-SC)(-4SA^2SB+SA(5SA-3SB)SC+(SA+SB)SC^2)x^4-
                                              > 2(SA+SC)(SA(SB-SC)^2+5SA^2(SB+SC)+SB*SC(SB+SC))x^3y-
                                              > 4(SA-SB)SC(SB*SC+SA(SB+SC))x^2y^2+
                                              > 2(SB+SC)(SA^2(SB+SC)+SB*SC(5SB+SC)+SA(5SB^2-2SB*SC+SC^2))x*y^3+
                                              > (SB+SC)(-SA(4SB-SC)(SB+SC)+SB*SC(5SB+SC))y^4)+
                                              >
                                              > (SA+SB)x*y*z^2((SA+SC)^2(SA*SB(5SA+SB)-(4SA-SB)(SA+SB)SC)x^5-
                                              > (SA+SC)(SA^2(19SB-14SC)(SB+SC)+SB^2SC(7SB+11*SC)+
                                              > SA*SB(7SB^2-8SB*SC-3SC^2))x^3y^2+(SB+SC)*
                                              > (SA^2SB(7SA+19SB)+SA(7SA^2-8SA*SB+5SB^2)SC+
                                              > (11SA-14SB)(SA+SB)SC^2)x^2y^3-(SB+SC)^2(SA*SB(SA+5SB)+
                                              > (SA-4SB)(SA+SB)SC)y^5)+
                                              >
                                              > (SA+SB)z^3((-(SA+SC)^3)(-2SA*SB+
                                              > (SA+SB)SC)x^6+2(SA+SC)^2(SA(SB-SC)^2+5SA^2(SB+SC)+
                                              > SB*SC(SB+SC))x^5y-(SA+SC)(SA^2(14SB-19SC)*
                                              >
                                              > (SB+SC)-SB*SC^2(11SB+7SC)+SA*SC(3SB^2+8SB*SC-7SC^2))*
                                              > x^4y^2+(SB+SC)(SA^2(14SB-11SC)(SB+SC)-
                                              > SB*SC^2(19SB+7SC)+SA*SC(-5SB^2+8SB*SC-7SC^2))*
                                              > x^2y^4-2(SB+SC)^2(SA^2(SB+SC)+SB*SC(5SB+SC)+
                                              > SA(5SB^2-2SB*SC+SC^2))x*y^5+(SB+SC)^3(-2SA*SB+(SA+SB)SC)*y^6)+
                                              >
                                              > ((SA+SB)(SA+SC)^3(-4SB*SC+5SA(SB+SC))x^5+
                                              >
                                              > 4SB(SA-SC)(SA+SC)^2(SB*SC+SA(SB+SC))x^4y-
                                              >
                                              > (SA+SC)(SB+SC)(SA^2SB(7SA+11SB)+
                                              > SA(7SA^2-8SA*SB-3SB^2)SC+(19SA-14SB)(SA+SB)SC^2)x^3y^2+
                                              >
                                              > (SA+SC)(SB+SC)(SA^2(11SB-14SC)(SB+SC)+
                                              > SB^2SC(7SB+19SC)+SA*SB(7SB^2-8SB*SC+5SC^2))x^2y^3-
                                              >
                                              > 4SA(SB-SC)(SB+SC)^2(SB*SC+SA(SB+SC))x*y^4-
                                              >
                                              > (SA+SB)(SB+SC)^3(5SA*SB-4SA*SC+5SB*SC)y^5)z^4-
                                              >
                                              > (SA+SC)(SB+SC)((SA+SC)x^2-(SB+SC)y^2)((SA+SC)(-4SA*SB+5(SA+SB)SC)x^2+
                                              > 2(SA*SB(SA+SB)+(SA-SB)^2SC+5(SA+SB)SC^2)x*y+
                                              > (SB+SC)(-4SA*SB+5(SA+SB)SC)y^2)z^5+
                                              >
                                              > (SA+SC)(SB+SC)((SA+SC)(-2SB*SC+SA(SB+SC))x-(SB+SC)(SA(SB-2SC)+SB*SC)y)*(SA*x^2+SB*y^2+SC(x+y)^2)z^6
                                              > =0
                                              >
                                              > (There must be a better simplification of this equation!)
                                              >
                                              > This curve (Gamma) contains points isodynamic (X13, X14) but the
                                              > corresponding triangles AAbAc, BBcBa and CCaCb are equilateral.
                                              >
                                              > The triangle center X(74) -isogonal conjugate of Euler infinity point- is
                                              > on the curve (Gamma) and the Euler Lines of A'AbAc, B'BcBa, C'CaCb
                                              > passing through A'', B'', C'' resp. (concurrent at X74 = common
                                              > circumcenter of the triangles).
                                              >
                                              > Best regards
                                              > Angel Montesdeoca
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > --- In Hyacinthos@yahoogroups.com, "Antreas" wrote:
                                              > >
                                              > > Let ABC be a triangle and A'B'C', A"B"C" the cevian, pedal
                                              > > triangles of P, resp.
                                              > >
                                              > > Denote:
                                              > >
                                              > > Ab, Ac = the reflections of A' in BB', CC'
                                              > >
                                              > > Bc, Ba = the reflections of B' in CC', AA'
                                              > >
                                              > > Ca, Cb = the reflections of C' in AA', BB'
                                              > >
                                              > > Ea, Eb, Ec = the Euler Lines of A'AbAc, B'BcBa, C'CaCb, resp.
                                              > (concurrent at P = common circumcenter of the triangles)
                                              > >
                                              > > La, Lb, Lc = the parallels through A",B",C" to Ea,Eb,Ec, resp.
                                              > >
                                              > > For P = I, the lines La,Lb,Lc concur on the pedal circle of I.
                                              > > (antipode of Feuerbach point)
                                              > >
                                              > > For P = H (A'B'C' = A"B"C") the lines La,Lb,Lc concur
                                              > > on the pedal circle of H (=NPC).
                                              > >
                                              > > Which is the point of concurrence?
                                              > >
                                              > > In general:
                                              > > Which is the locus of P such that the lines La,Lb,Lc
                                              > > are concurrent?
                                              > >
                                              > > Antreas
                                              > >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >



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                                            • Antreas Hatzipolakis
                                              [APH] ... More for P = H: The NPCs of A AbAc, B BcBa, C CaCb are concurrent on the NPC of A B C (On the Poncelet point of H with respect A B C ie the point
                                              Message 22 of 26 , Feb 26, 2013
                                                [APH]


                                                >
                                                > Let ABC be a triangle and A'B'C', A"B"C" the cevian, pedal
                                                > triangles of P, resp.
                                                >
                                                > Denote:
                                                >
                                                > Ab, Ac = the reflections of A' in BB', CC'
                                                >
                                                > Bc, Ba = the reflections of B' in CC', AA'
                                                >
                                                > Ca, Cb = the reflections of C' in AA', BB'
                                                >
                                                > Ea, Eb, Ec = the Euler Lines of A'AbAc, B'BcBa, C'CaCb, resp. (concurrent
                                                > at P = common circumcenter of the triangles)
                                                >
                                                > La, Lb, Lc = the parallels through A",B",C" to Ea,Eb,Ec, resp.
                                                >
                                                > For P = I, the lines La,Lb,Lc concur on the pedal circle of I.
                                                > (antipode of Feuerbach point)
                                                >
                                                > For P = H (A'B'C' = A"B"C") the lines La,Lb,Lc concur
                                                > on the pedal circle of H (=NPC).
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                More for P = H:

                                                The NPCs of A'AbAc, B'BcBa, C'CaCb are concurrent on
                                                the NPC of A'B'C' (On the Poncelet point of H with respect
                                                A'B'C' ie the point of concurrence of the NPCs of
                                                A'B'C', HB'C', HC'A', HA'B'. So we have seven concurrent NPCs)

                                                The parallels through A,B,C to the (concurrent at H)
                                                Euler lines Ea, Eb, Ec of A'AbAc, B'BcBa, C'CaCb, resp. concur on the
                                                circumcircle of ABC on the antipode of the Euler line
                                                reflection point. And the perpendiculars, on the Euler line reflection
                                                point.


                                                APH


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                                              • Antreas Hatzipolakis
                                                Let ABC be a triangle and P a point. Denote: P1,P2,P3 = the P-points of PBC,PCA,PAB resp. P12,P13 = the reflections of P1 in AC,AB, resp. P23,P21 = the
                                                Message 23 of 26 , May 29, 2016
                                                  Let ABC be a triangle and P a point.

                                                  Denote:

                                                  P1,P2,P3 = the P-points of PBC,PCA,PAB resp.

                                                  P12,P13 = the reflections of P1 in AC,AB, resp.
                                                  P23,P21 = the reflections of P2 in BA,BC, resp.
                                                  P31,P32 = the reflections of P3 in CB,CA, resp.

                                                  Which is the locus of P such that the perpendicular bisectors of

                                                  P12P13, P23P21, P31P32 are concurrent ?

                                                  (equivalently: Let M1,M2,M3 be the midpoints of P12P13, P23P21, P31P32, resp.

                                                  Which is the locus of P such that ABC, M1M2M3 are perspective?)

                                                  1. P = O

                                                  O1,O2,O3 = the circumcenters of OBC,OCA,OAB resp.
                                                  O12,O13 = the reflections of O1 in AC,AB, resp.
                                                  O23,O21 = the reflections of O2 in BA,BC, resp.
                                                  O31,O32 = the reflections of O3 in CB,CA, resp.

                                                  The perpendicular bisectors of O12O13,O23O21,O31O32 are concurrent at N.

                                                  2. P = I

                                                  I1,I2,I3 = the Incenters of IBC,ICA,IAB resp.
                                                  I12,I13 = the reflections of I1 in AC,AB, resp.
                                                  I23,I21 = the reflections of I2 in BA,BC, resp.
                                                  I31,I32 = the reflections of I3 in CB,CA, resp.

                                                  The perpendicular bisectors of I12I13,I23I21,I31I32 are concurrent at ??? (on
                                                  the OI line)

                                                  3. P = N

                                                  N1, N2, N3 = the NPC centers of NBC,NCA,NAB, resp.

                                                  N12,N13 = the reflections of N1 in AC,AB, resp.
                                                  N23,N21 = the reflections of N2 in BA,BC, resp.
                                                  N31,N32 = the reflections of N3 in CB,CA, resp.

                                                  The perpendicular bisectors of N12N13, N23N21, N31N32 are concurrent at ??.

                                                  Antreas





                                                • xpolakis
                                                  [APH]: 3. P = N N1, N2, N3 = the NPC centers of NBC,NCA,NAB, resp. N12,N13 = the reflections of N1 in AC,AB, resp. N23,N21 = the reflections of N2 in BA,BC,
                                                  Message 24 of 26 , May 29, 2016


                                                    [APH]:

                                                    3. P = N

                                                    N1, N2, N3 = the NPC centers of NBC,NCA,NAB, resp.

                                                    N12,N13 = the reflections of N1 in AC,AB, resp.
                                                    N23,N21 = the reflections of N2 in BA,BC, resp.
                                                    N31,N32 = the reflections of N3 in CB,CA, resp.

                                                    The perpendicular bisectors of N12N13, N23N21, N31N32 are concurrent at ??.

                                                    Antreas

                                                    [Angel Montesdeoca]:


                                                    The perpendicular bisectors of N12N13, N23N21, N31N32 are cevians of  X(1493) = NAPOLEON CROSSSUM

                                                    Best regards,
                                                    Angel M.






                                                     
                                                  • Antreas Hatzipolakis
                                                    [APH] Let ABC be a triangle and P a point. Denote: P1,P2,P3 = the P-points of PBC,PCA,PAB resp. P12,P13 = the reflections of P1 in AC,AB, resp. P23,P21 = the
                                                    Message 25 of 26 , May 30, 2016
                                                      [APH]

                                                      Let ABC be a triangle and P a point.

                                                      Denote:

                                                      P1,P2,P3 = the P-points of PBC,PCA,PAB resp.

                                                      P12,P13 = the reflections of P1 in AC,AB, resp.
                                                      P23,P21 = the reflections of P2 in BA,BC, resp.
                                                      P31,P32 = the reflections of P3 in CB,CA, resp.

                                                      Which is the locus of P such that the perpendicular bisectors of

                                                      P12P13, P23P21, P31P32 are concurrent ?

                                                      (equivalently: Let M1,M2,M3 be the midpoints of P12P13, P23P21, P31P32, resp.

                                                      Which is the locus of P such that ABC, M1M2M3 are perspective?)

                                                      1. P = O

                                                      O1,O2,O3 = the circumcenters of OBC,OCA,OAB resp.
                                                      O12,O13 = the reflections of O1 in AC,AB, resp.
                                                      O23,O21 = the reflections of O2 in BA,BC, resp.
                                                      O31,O32 = the reflections of O3 in CB,CA, resp.

                                                      The perpendicular bisectors of O12O13,O23O21,O31O32 are concurrent at N.

                                                      2. P = I

                                                      I1,I2,I3 = the Incenters of IBC,ICA,IAB resp.
                                                      I12,I13 = the reflections of I1 in AC,AB, resp.
                                                      I23,I21 = the reflections of I2 in BA,BC, resp.
                                                      I31,I32 = the reflections of I3 in CB,CA, resp.

                                                      The perpendicular bisectors of I12I13,I23I21,I31I32 are concurrent at ??? (on

                                                      the OI line)

                                                      3. P = N

                                                      N1, N2, N3 = the NPC centers of NBC,NCA,NAB, resp.

                                                      N12,N13 = the reflections of N1 in AC,AB, resp.
                                                      N23,N21 = the reflections of N2 in BA,BC, resp.
                                                      N31,N32 = the reflections of N3 in CB,CA, resp.

                                                      The perpendicular bisectors of N12N13, N23N21, N31N32 are concurrent at ??.

                                                      Antreas


                                                      [César E. Lozada]:
                                                       

                                                      Dear Antreas,

                                                      The list is longer.

                                                      The appearance of i(j) in the following list means that the perpendicular bisectors for P=X(i) concur at X(j). If no j is given it means that they concur at a non-ETC center:

                                                      1(1129), 3(5), 5(1493), 6(141), 13(15), 15(17), 17(61), 20(3), 31, 32, 75, 76, 140, 176, 365, 366, 376(4550), 381, 382, 399(5671), 485(371), 546, 547, 548, 549, 550, 560, 561, 631, 632, 1501, 1502, 1656, 1657, 1917, 1928, 2042, 2043, 2044, 2045, 2046, 2671, 2675, 2676

                                                      Note: Found with i<=3054.

                                                      Regards

                                                      César
                                                    • Antreas Hatzipolakis
                                                      ... Dear Angel and Cesar, Thank you for your responses. Now, I think the same is true if we replace the Incenters of the component triangles with excenters.
                                                      Message 26 of 26 , May 30, 2016


                                                        [APH]:

                                                        2. P = I

                                                        I1,I2,I3 = the Incenters of IBC,ICA,IAB resp.
                                                        I12,I13 = the reflections of I1 in AC,AB, resp.
                                                        I23,I21 = the reflections of I2 in BA,BC, resp.
                                                        I31,I32 = the reflections of I3 in CB,CA, resp.

                                                        The perpendicular bisectors of I12I13,I23I21,I31I32 are concurrent at ??? (on
                                                        the OI line)


                                                        Dear Angel and Cesar,

                                                        Thank you for your responses.

                                                        Now, I think the same is true if we replace the Incenters of the component triangles
                                                        with excenters. That is:

                                                        Denote:

                                                        J1 = the BC-excenter of IBC
                                                        J2 = the CA-excenter of ICA
                                                        J3 = the AB-excenter of IAB

                                                        J12,J13 = the reflections of J1 in AC,AB, resp.
                                                        J23,J21 = the reflections of J2 in BA,BC, resp.
                                                        J31,J32 = the reflections of J3 in CB,CA, resp.

                                                        The perpendicular bisectors of J12J13,J23IJ21,J31J32 are concurrent.

                                                        Antreas




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