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  • Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD
    I d expect a group of lawyers to be one of the easiest to teach because they re likely to think linearly and they would all have key reference experiences in
    Message 1 of 6 , Aug 20, 2003
      I'd expect a group of lawyers to be one of the easiest to teach
      because they're likely to think linearly and they would all have key
      reference experiences in common.

      So your task of determining the the goals of the audience, their
      learning styles, and their working reality is already has been taken
      care of once you know their reason for wanting to learn Huna.

      That's one reason "Why?" is the first question I asked.

      ... because once you know what they want to learn, then you know
      WHAT to teach them ...

      ...and once you know their learning style(s) you know HOW to teach
      them ...

      ... and becaue you have some idea of their working reality (thy're
      all lawyers) you already have key reference experiences you can link
      WHAT your teaching TO so they can inernalize it.

      So it's as easy as falling of a log because the teaching process
      involves two things...

      1. Providing information/knowledge. (eg. show them the log)
      2. Connecting that information/knowledge to relevent references and
      behaviors. (eg. push them off the log)

      And that means you already have what you need to perform a Ha Rite
      for the successful outcome of your class.

      --Vince


      --- In Huna-Ohana@yahoogroups.com, "iamonewholei"
      <iamonewholei@y...> wrote:
      > If I may interject. In over 28 years of using and learning and
      > sharing Huna, it is my experience that the most difficult students
      > and learners are anyone who already thinks they are a god or acts
      > like they are one. You know, MDs and lawyers and such.
      >
      > As to where to hold conventions I vote Lake Tahoe if it is
      feasable.
      > They are challanged for business for the foreseeable future by
      > expanding California casinos and whoud offer good rates? Their
      > summer weather is nearly perfect usually compared to anywhere else
      > not more crowded. I don't know if the airport qualifies? And I
      can
      > drive there which is the more likely way I will ever meet all you
      > wonderful folks.
      > Blessings, Loren
    • LazarusRH@aol.com
      Dear Loren, I had to respond to the MD comment. Most doctors that I know have the deity role forced on them from patients who want an instant cure for
      Message 2 of 6 , Aug 21, 2003
        Dear Loren,
        I had to respond to the MD comment.  Most doctors that I know have the deity role forced on them from patients who want an instant cure for anything that ails them (see Jesus being touched by the woman with the bleeding problem), usually in the form of a pill or surgery, rather than taking any responsibility for their own health.  So often I get patients back in who complain that they are not feeling better, for what ever reason and they did not even get their medicine filled.  And in today's malpractice climate, doctors are expected to be perfect or get sued for millions of dollars.  Doctors are taught to think along the linear method as are scientists using "the Scientific method", hypothesis, theory, etc., as was Dr. Brigham, who got MFL on the Huna path.
        At the age where most doctors begin medical school, they are easily impressionable and the first few times that they save a life, say by putting in a chest tube for a pneumothorax, it will go to their head..just like if they were that age and played football and scored a touchdown.  Don't you feel a little thrill inside when you help someone?

        Take care,

        Calvin
      • David Gluth
        snip So it s as easy as falling of a log because the teaching process involves two things... 1. Providing information/knowledge. (eg. show them the log) 2.
        Message 3 of 6 , Aug 21, 2003
           
           
           
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          So it's as easy as falling of a log because the teaching process
          involves two things...
           
          1. Providing information/knowledge. (eg. show them the log)
          2. Connecting that information/knowledge to relevent references and
          behaviors. (eg. push them off the log)
           
          And that means you already have what you need to perform a Ha Rite
          for the successful outcome of your class.
           
          --Vince
           
          snip
           
          Vince I love this I think this is the best explanation of teaching I have seen  and it makes sense...Love it
           
          Dave
           
           
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        • Louis Weltzer
          Thanks for the comments. I think I have figured out how to proceed. -lw ... Chat privately with Bon Jovi, Seal, Bow Wow, or Mary J Blige using MSN Messenger!
          Message 4 of 6 , Aug 21, 2003



            Thanks for the comments.  I think I have figured out how to proceed.

            -lw

            >From: "Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD"
            >Reply-To: Huna-Ohana@yahoogroups.com
            >To: Huna-Ohana@yahoogroups.com
            >Subject: [Huna-Ohana] Re: Lawyers and Doctors and such...
            >Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 02:33:10 -0000
            >
            >I'd expect a group of lawyers to be one of the easiest to teach
            >because they're likely to think linearly and they would all have key
            >reference experiences in common.
            >
            >So your task of determining the the goals of the audience, their
            >learning styles, and their working reality is already has been taken
            >care of once you know their reason for wanting to learn Huna.
            >
            >That's one reason "Why?" is the first question I asked.
            >
            >... because once you know what they want to learn, then you know
            >WHAT to teach them ...
            >
            >...and once you know their learning style(s) you know HOW to teach
            >them ...
            >
            >... and becaue you have some idea of their working reality (thy're
            >all lawyers) you already have key reference experiences you can link
            >WHAT your teaching TO so they can inernalize it.
            >
            >So it's as easy as falling of a log because the teaching process
            >involves two things...
            >
            >1. Providing information/knowledge. (eg. show them the log)
            >2. Connecting that information/knowledge to relevent references and
            >behaviors. (eg. push them off the log)
            >
            >And that means you already have what you need to perform a Ha Rite
            >for the successful outcome of your class.
            >
            >--Vince
            >
            >
            >--- In Huna-Ohana@yahoogroups.com, "iamonewholei"
            > wrote:
            > > If I may interject. In over 28 years of using and learning and
            > > sharing Huna, it is my experience that the most difficult students
            > > and learners are anyone who already thinks they are a god or acts
            > > like they are one. You know, MDs and lawyers and such.
            > >
            > > As to where to hold conventions I vote Lake Tahoe if it is
            >feasable.
            > > They are challanged for business for the foreseeable future by
            > > expanding California casinos and whoud offer good rates? Their
            > > summer weather is nearly perfect usually compared to anywhere else
            > > not more crowded. I don't know if the airport qualifies? And I
            >can
            > > drive there which is the more likely way I will ever meet all you
            > > wonderful folks.
            > > Blessings, Loren
            >
            >


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          • Helen Driscoll
            You have to figure that if they signed up for the class, they are interested on some level. I guess the way in is to engage that level and not engage the
            Message 5 of 6 , Aug 21, 2003
              You have to figure that if they signed up for the class, they are interested on some level. I guess the "way in" is
              to engage that level and not engage the argumentative level too much.

              Most lawyers will agree that there is a personal element "charisma" or the "power of influence" (which are really the
              energy levels) -- because by habit they look for an advantage. A good trial lawyer knows how to work those levels
              and looks for it in jury or opponent response, etc. they may be aware of the power of meditation, the placebo
              effects, other examples of spirit or mind influencing matter.

              So you may get them to agree in principle that they are working with energies already - whether they are aware of it
              or not. (in other words, it's hard for them to discount what you want to teach them.)

              These examples could be used in the introduction.

              I think the best way "in" is to profoundly engage them in an experiential way - a good drill is hard to deny!

              Your skill will be to show them that these energies work much better when used to heal, rather than to gain advantage
              over an opponent. Lawyers are pretty good at getting the "big picture" generally speaking.

              CONVENTION: Oh - I vote for Lake Tahoe too.

              Helen Driscoll


              Helen Driscoll

              iamonewholei wrote:

              > If I may interject. In over 28 years of using and learning and
              > sharing Huna, it is my experience that the most difficult students
              > and learners are anyone who already thinks they are a god or acts
              > like they are one. You know, MDs and lawyers and such.
              >
              > As to where to hold conventions I vote Lake Tahoe if it is feasable.
              > They are challanged for business for the foreseeable future by
              > expanding California casinos and whoud offer good rates? Their
              > summer weather is nearly perfect usually compared to anywhere else
              > not more crowded. I don't know if the airport qualifies? And I can
              > drive there which is the more likely way I will ever meet all you
              > wonderful folks.
              > Blessings, Loren
              >
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