39Re: [Hostow_Galicia_Village] Moskaluk in Hostiv
- Dec 20, 2008
I one of the few lucky ones that had an outstanding trip in Ukraine. I only a about 6 hours in Hostiv. I went to gravesite and was concern that people were not taking care of the graveyard. I did see many of my relatives and generations of Moskaluk. It seems that I still have a large family in Hostiv.
It was unfortunate that the July 2008 floods in that region did kill a small child that came close to overflowing river. The cello people had a good range of old and young. I noticed that development was taken place as people are building new houses. There were many in various state of construction. I passed by the Ukraine Catholic Church but hadn't had time to go inside. I did visit with about 10 different relatives and to see them and get to know them in a short period of time was near to impossible.
My eldest son was touring with Yavir dance troop. They had a free concert in Ternopil and busload of Moskaluk came to greet and see him. Even when we walk on street people would say "Slava" to each other (this was short form for Slava icuce hrusty) very religious. There was no russian, polish, idish or german spoken everything was Ukrainian. There was a large bust of Ivan Franko near the community centre. As I asked my cousins about this they didn't know who the person was. My cousin said that Ivan Franko would come to see my grandfather, as he was the local blacksmith and the town mayor in early 1900's. Most people there are very friendly and look to be well off. There is a bus service that runs six times a day from Ivan Frankisk to Hostiv. I was really amazed at this infrastructure. Most of the houses have barns and summer kitchens. Each house is fenced in and some have amazing metal work for the fencing. I noticed that the primary area was agriculture however most people work else wear and come to live.
It was unique that when i was walking on the road that cattle would be leave every one's barn at the same time and you would have about 100 head going to fields to feed. I was amazed that many people came to Hostiv to live. You have a small plot of land near home in which you grow your own food. I didn't see stores however my cousin said there were 4 bars in the village those looks like homes. When I went into the bar it was like a corner store that had everything.
Cell phones. Wow everyone one had a cell phone. Instead of calling the children to bring in the cows they would call them on the cell phones. KyivStar has a transmission tower in Hostiv. Who needs landlines???
A couple of notables, first I'm sorry that this email is fragmented, there was so much to see and the memories were great. I did notice that my cousin daughter is in charge of post office in Hostiv. I will get her number and post it. I think it is important that we can have better ties to Hostiv than a google satellite map and bunch of names. Oh on the sad note when I ask to see the church books to who was born, married, died this book was destroyed by Communist. They though it not to be important. I would be very interested if someone has this information.
oh attach is a picture of my son and his dancing partner outside of Kyiv. Thought it was a little over the top
From: Steven Grzegor...n <grecko1@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 3:20:47 AM
Subject: [Hostow_Galicia_Village] Moskaluk in Hostiv
It's been some time since I've heard from you - you were going to
make your way to Hostiv - just wondering whether your trip eventuated
as planned and what its was like??
--- In Hostow_Galicia_Village@yahoogroups.com, Don Moskaluk
>Canada my wife and kids also consider themselves to be from
> Also I am pretty well fluent in Ukrainian and even though I born in
Ukrainian origin. My mother was born in Ternopil however under
Polish rule and my inlaws were born in Lemkivshna which was southern
Poland in Carthpathian Mountains. They all consider themselves
Ukrainian. Kinda funny dialetics but it looks like Hostiv is a mini
Canada with all different nationalities..
> I hope this helps.name is not part of the town of Hostiw
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: grecko1 <grecko1@...>
> To: Hostow_Galicia_Village@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 6:45:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [Hostow_Galicia_Village] I've noticed that Moskaluk
>Grzegorczyn. Smiegel(or Szmigiel) is also in my family tree, as are
> Hi Don,
> Thought I would note that apart from my surname
> Szeremeta, Marsylewicz, Markiewicz, Andrzejczuk, Ostryzniuk,Krzyszczuk, Wdowiak, Hajdasz, Fediuk, Holij, Chryn, Gacek. I'm sure
many with a Polish spelt name living in Poland have a Ukranian
spelling for those that may have remained in Hostow. I came across a
version of what I believe may be my surname for people that may
still still in Ottynia (not far from Hostow/Hostiv) and it was
spelt "Hrehorashen". In Ukrainian the G changes to a H. Another
Ottynian name is Markovych which may be Markiewicz in Poland . I
must admit it still amazes me that Jan, Ivan and John is one and
the same – my fathers name was Jan.
>on the web site. However, the direct page that may interest you is;
> Some Moskolnik's also live in Argentina – site link is in the links
>that quite of few people from Hostow immigrated to Argentina .
> it also lists a few versions of your surname. Its worth noting
>Argentina in 1920
> is in Spanish, it clearly shows the following people being in
>Fassa, Antonio Antoniow, Juan Kruchowski, Juan Zach, Miguel
> Allí aparecen los señores Adam Whon, Juan Raczkowski, Antonio
Gregorczyn, Juan Huk, Pedro Soja, Antonio Terlecki, Miguel Antoniow,
Martín Wdowiak, Pablo Hajdasz, Floriano Idzi, Pedro Maruniak,
>are all likely to have immigrated from Hostow / Tarnowica Polna and
> The names of Hajdarz, Wdowiak, Huk and Gregorczyn in my opinion
are somehow related to many of us in the group. Addresses/phone
numbers appear to be accessible over the internet(white pages) when I
looked some time back for those in Buenos Aires .. I actually found 3
Gregorczyn addresses and phone numbers when I looked.
>follow a trip to England with an elderly relative. However, the
> Earlier this year I was planning my own trip to Hostow. It was to
England trip fell through due to health issues. It may be back on
the agenda some time next year or the year after.
>kind enough to advertise the web site in the Hostow Post office and
> It would be great if during you Hostow/ Hostiv visit you would be
at the Hostow museum which I understand has opened. I hope your
Ukrainian and Cyrillic script is doing well??
> Good Luck
> Kind Regards,
> Steve Grzegorczyn
>Hostow_Galicia_Village@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Don Moskaluk
> From:Hostow_Galicia_Village@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:14 PMname is not part of the town of Hostiw
> To: Hostow_Galicia_Village@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Hostow_Galicia_Village] I've noticed that Moskaluk
>funny that some of the names I do recognize. My late father and his
> Wow that is amazing. My Grand Father was named Ivan. It kinda
neighbour Smiegel use to get together from time to time.
>videos and find out more about the town. I also know that my cousins
> I heading towards Hostiw this summer and hopefully will get some
are running the post office and store. Hopefully they can send me
>Moskolnik sure can be spealt wrong. Even today people spell the name
> Yeah, the J in the could be the polishsized version of Ivan and
wrong why wouldn't that be different then? Especially if you
directly translated it from Ukrainian or slavic spelling to Polish.
>June 3, 2008 5:31:39 AM
> Thanks for your Help
> Dr. Don Moskaluk
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: grecko1 < grecko1@ozemail. com.au >
> To: Hostow_Galicia_ Village@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Tuesday,
> Subject: RE: [Hostow_Galicia_ Village] I've noticed that Moskalukname is not part of the town of Hostiw
> Hi Don,grandfather - it would be great to hear more one day.
> Welcome to the group. Thanks for the comments regarding your
>Polish Business Directory which finds Hostow; ( link is also
> You may be interested in looking at the following link to the 1929
available in the links from the website)
>sometimes got the spelling wrong? Other surnames on the list
> http://data. jewishgen.. org/jri-pl/ 1929/loadtop. htm?1482
> Sure enough it has a J, Moskolnik listed as the Kawale. They
include some the other new members may be interested in. These
> Kruk andwould be great if anyone who had photo's of Hostow (Historical or
> Steven Grzegorczyn
> PS to all
> I have uploaded my grandparents wedding photo onto the site. It
New) had the time to upload them in the "photos" option of the
website. Also, if anyone has encountered and specific links for
Hostow/Tarnowica Polna area not already listed on website, you are
able to upload the link yourself or alternatively please send me a
link and I will add it.
>Hostow_Galicia_ Village@yahoogro ups.com ] On Behalf Of don.moskaluk
> From:Hostow_Galicia_ Village@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 20086:05 AM
> To: Hostow_Galicia_ Village@yahoogro ups.comis not part of the town of Hostiw
> Subject: [Hostow_Galicia_ Village] I've noticed that Moskaluk name
> I've noticed that Moskaluk name is not part of the town of Hostiw .
> you please add Moskaluk to the family names of Hostiw. It seemsthat
> Moskaluk have been there for over a hundred years and Ivan Frankouse
> to come an visit the town to talk with my grand father (as he waslocal
> black smith).------------------------------------
> Don Moskaluk
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