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  • Douglas W. Popeye Frederick
    ... coarse ... get a ... John, pardon my ignorance, but can you elaborate on what ACC is? Brand name? Thanks Popeye
    Message 1 of 7 , Jan 31, 2005
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      --- In HOn3@yahoogroups.com, John Stutz <stutz@p...> wrote:

      >
      > One of the flexible grades of ACC. If gluing to one of the
      > engineering plastics (delren & etc.), roughen the surface with
      coarse
      > sandpaper, then smooth off any high bits with fine sandpaper, to
      get a
      > good tooth over a small bond gap.
      >
      > John Stutz

      John, pardon my ignorance, but can you elaborate on what ACC is?

      Brand name?

      Thanks

      Popeye
    • Brett Payne
      Popeye, John may be asleep by now so a New Zealander living in Australia will offer an answre instead... ACC in Cyanoacrilate cement - also known as super
      Message 2 of 7 , Feb 1 1:32 AM
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        Popeye,
        John may be asleep by now so a New Zealander living in Australia will
        offer an answre instead...

        ACC in Cyanoacrilate cement - also known as super glue. It comes in
        different types that are fast or slow acting and very thin liquid or a
        gel like substance. Be careful to get good brand name stuff from your
        local hobby shop or specialist store and not the cheap stuff from the
        discount places.

        Personaly I hate the stuff and it goes off (ages) very quickly. A
        typical tube will go off before you ever finish it.

        For Plastic to Plastic gluing I prefer a liquid sold by Microscale. It
        works like MEK but is organic and smells of lemon.

        I also like to use Epoxy glues like Araldite brand. Both the 5 minute
        and 24 hour setting stuff are good. This can be used to glue pretty
        much anything to anything else. You can also use superglue to tack
        together a couple of parts then reinforce the joint with epoxy.

        Regards
        Brett Payne

        > John, pardon my ignorance, but can you elaborate on what ACC is?
        >
        > Brand name?
        >
        > Thanks
        >
        > Popeye
        >
        >
      • Douglas W. Popeye Frederick
        ... will ... in ... or a ... your ... the ... It ... minute ... pretty ... Ahhhh...., Cyanoacrylate. I m a Certified World Class Auto Repair Technician (that s
        Message 3 of 7 , Feb 1 5:24 AM
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          --- In HOn3@yahoogroups.com, Brett Payne <brett.payne@i...> wrote:
          > Popeye,
          > John may be asleep by now so a New Zealander living in Australia
          will
          > offer an answre instead...
          >
          > ACC in Cyanoacrilate cement - also known as super glue. It comes
          in
          > different types that are fast or slow acting and very thin liquid
          or a
          > gel like substance. Be careful to get good brand name stuff from
          your
          > local hobby shop or specialist store and not the cheap stuff from
          the
          > discount places.
          >
          > Personaly I hate the stuff and it goes off (ages) very quickly. A
          > typical tube will go off before you ever finish it.
          >
          > For Plastic to Plastic gluing I prefer a liquid sold by Microscale.
          It
          > works like MEK but is organic and smells of lemon.
          >
          > I also like to use Epoxy glues like Araldite brand. Both the 5
          minute
          > and 24 hour setting stuff are good. This can be used to glue
          pretty
          > much anything to anything else. You can also use superglue to tack
          > together a couple of parts then reinforce the joint with epoxy.
          >
          > Regards
          > Brett Payne

          Ahhhh....,

          Cyanoacrylate.

          I'm a Certified World Class Auto Repair Technician (that's 3+
          Master Certs).

          I -know- Superglue.

          Thanks Brett, and John, for the info.

          FWIW, I use a -Gel- superglue, a superior product from the norm, I
          think marketed by Permatex or 3M (dunno about Down Under).

          Almost the consistency of toothpaste and -much- more managable.

          Available at auto repair stores, everyone, try it, you'll like it.

          Also, a quick epoxy that comes in single serving packets, too, very
          convenient.

          Thanks for the 411 Brett, I'm an avid diver (my other deviance),
          hope we get to meet someday.

          Now, as I hang my head in further shame, and scuff my foot: MEK?

          I got some same old Testors (my last tube was 30 years old and
          usable, just took too long to harden/dry), but I'd like to know the
          difference.

          I remember the Lemon stuff, I swear, from 1975, although maybe I
          got too much of the Testor fumes last night.


          Popeye
        • HOn3MRR@aol.com
          In a message dated 2/1/2005 3:35:23 AM Central Standard Time, brett.payne@internode.on.net writes: Personaly I hate the stuff and it goes off (ages) very
          Message 4 of 7 , Feb 1 7:24 AM
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            In a message dated 2/1/2005 3:35:23 AM Central Standard Time,
            brett.payne@... writes:

            Personaly I hate the stuff and it goes off (ages) very quickly. A
            typical tube will go off before you ever finish it.



            Try keeping any unused product in the fridge, in another clearly marked jar.
            I do an it has extended the life almost indefinately.

            Personally, I would use an epoxy to attach plastic to metal, or in certain
            static condidtions a rubber type cement such as Walthers Goo!

            Bill Martin
            Live Oak, Texas
            HOn3 Presque Isle Northern RR



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          • John Stutz
            ... ACC denotes Alpha Cyanoacrylate (spelling certainly wrong), a.k.a super glue, in the original chemical formulation. There are now a wide variety of
            Message 5 of 7 , Feb 1 10:40 AM
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              > > One of the flexible grades of ACC. If gluing to one of the
              > > engineering plastics (delren & etc.), roughen the surface with
              > > coarse sandpaper, then smooth off any high bits with fine
              > > sandpaper, to get a good tooth over a small bond gap.
              > >
              > > John Stutz
              >
              > John, pardon my ignorance, but can you elaborate on what ACC is?

              ACC denotes Alpha Cyanoacrylate (spelling certainly wrong), a.k.a
              super glue, in the original chemical formulation. There are now a
              wide variety of **acrylate formulations available. A good hobby shop
              will have several viscosities ranging from water thin to tarry. The
              standard ACCs tend to be brittle - I was once told of a 3-year old who
              dropped an O-gauge white metal locomotive, reducing it back to a kit,
              without seriously damaging any parts. Thus my recommendation for a
              medium viscosity flexible grade or high impact strength version.
              There is even a formulation, currently advertised in the Gazette, that
              claims to give a good bond to acetal (delren) parts. I have not yet
              checked this one out, hence my recommendation to assure a good
              roughened physical grip on the acetal engineering resins.

              John Stutz
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