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Re: Digital OTA reception problems?

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  • Mark Del Secco
    Thanks Art! It seems that KRON is the worst of all the digital channels, and it helps me to know that you had some reception problems over the last few days
    Message 1 of 12 , Mar 16, 2001
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      Thanks Art!

      It seems that KRON is the worst of all the digital channels, and
      it helps me to know that you had some reception problems over the
      last few days too. The thing about KRON is that it will have
      a signal strength of 68-72%, but it still freezes and drops out at
      that level, which does not happen on any of the other channels.
      It also drops frequently to levels well below 60%, so I have no
      picture at all. It sure would be nice to watch an entire HD Leno
      show just once.....

      -Mark in Morgan Hill
    • samsampath@yahoo.com
      Glad it is not my STB. I have a Panasonic in Sunnyvale and I cannot get KRON 57-1 anymore. This started about 3 days ago. It used to be just fine till now !!!
      Message 2 of 12 , Mar 17, 2001
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        Glad it is not my STB. I have a Panasonic in Sunnyvale and I
        cannot get KRON 57-1 anymore. This started about 3 days ago.
        It used to be just fine till now !!!

        sam

        --- In HDTV-in-SFbay@y..., "Mark Del Secco" <mds54@e...> wrote:
        > Thanks Art!
        >
        > It seems that KRON is the worst of all the digital channels, and
        > it helps me to know that you had some reception problems over the
        > last few days too. The thing about KRON is that it will have
        > a signal strength of 68-72%, but it still freezes and drops out at
        > that level, which does not happen on any of the other channels.
        > It also drops frequently to levels well below 60%, so I have no
        > picture at all. It sure would be nice to watch an entire HD Leno
        > show just once.....
        >
        > -Mark in Morgan Hill
      • marks@cag.com
        Sam, Yap, the same thing on 57-1 here tonight in West San Jose. Strange, we have a signal strength of 88% on the DTC100. That should be plenty. 57 has always
        Message 3 of 12 , Mar 17, 2001
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          Sam,

          Yap, the same thing on 57-1 here tonight in
          West San Jose.

          Strange, we have a signal strength of 88% on
          the DTC100. That should be plenty. 57 has
          always been tough, so a few weeks ago we used
          it to repoint our 'A' antenna. We noticed that
          57 came in better if we pointed a few degrees
          more to the West, it really helped. It also
          dropped the signal strength on all the other
          Sutro channel by 2-4%.

          Are folks closer to Sutro seeing this?

          --Mark from West San Jose

          Ps: Will add freezing and dropping to my
          hdtv page: http://www.cag.com/html/hdtv.html

          --- In HDTV-in-SFbay@y..., samsampath@y... wrote:
          > Glad it is not my STB. I have a Panasonic in Sunnyvale and I
          > cannot get KRON 57-1 anymore. This started about 3 days ago.
          > It used to be just fine till now !!!
          >
          > sam
        • Art Courville
          O.k., you got my attention. Any idea when this will be out of beta and on the market? Does it do 720p as rumored? Does it have a native mode that will
          Message 4 of 12 , Mar 18, 2001
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            O.k., you got my attention. Any idea when this will be out of beta and
            on the market? Does it do 720p as rumored? Does it have a "native
            mode" that will pass the signal in the format received? Can you switch
            from HD to SD via the remote?

            And is it the rumored unit that has an integrated PVR? I guess now I'm
            getting greedy . . . . : )

            Art

            Randy Spencer wrote:
            >
            >
            > I have been beta testing a new HDTV tuner from Zenith and doing a lot of
            > quality of signal tests and have had NO breakups.
          • Randy Spencer
            Unfortunately I lost the beginning of the thread but since I am the only one across the bay from Sutro I thought I ought to respond. I believe the questing is
            Message 5 of 12 , Mar 18, 2001
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              Unfortunately I lost the beginning of the thread but since I am the only one
              across the bay from Sutro I thought I ought to respond.

              I believe the questing is "Channel 57 isn't coming in even though it shows
              as having LOTS of signal" I have not watched anything all the way thru, but
              I have been beta testing a new HDTV tuner from Zenith and doing a lot of
              quality of signal tests and have had NO breakups. Infact I downgraded to
              just a set top antenna last night and ALL the stations come in just fine.

              Alameda, the place to own an HDTV.

              If this is something that is continuing and I can run specific tests, let me
              know.

              -Randy

              --- marks@... wrote:

              > Are folks closer to Sutro seeing this?
              >
              > --Mark from West San Jose


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            • Randy Spencer
              Well, I am under non-disclosure, but the quick and dirty answer is we are NOT talking about the same unit , it has NONE of the features you are asking about
              Message 6 of 12 , Mar 18, 2001
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                Well, I am under non-disclosure, but the quick and dirty answer is "we are
                NOT talking about the same unit", it has NONE of the features you are asking
                about but I am sure one will come out that does all that. The idea of a
                HDTV PVR is an idea whose time has come. No problems with copy protection,
                no expensive MPEG encoders, and it would let us FINALLY timeshift HDTV. I
                know there are those who got the Panasonic recorders but you can't buy them
                anymore. I would just LOVE to have something by April 29th so I can record
                Star Wars on Fox, assuming it's broadcast in HDTV.

                -Randy

                --- Art Courville <acourvil@...> wrote:
                > O.k., you got my attention. Any idea when this will be out of beta and
                > on the market? Does it do 720p as rumored? Does it have a "native
                > mode" that will pass the signal in the format received? Can you switch
                > from HD to SD via the remote?
                >
                > And is it the rumored unit that has an integrated PVR? I guess now I'm
                > getting greedy . . . . : )
                >
                > Art
                >
                > Randy Spencer wrote:
                > >
                > >
                > > I have been beta testing a new HDTV tuner from Zenith and doing a lot of
                > > quality of signal tests and have had NO breakups.
                >


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              • R8der
                ... I am also one of the beta testers with the Zenith unit. I too am getting excellent performance with picking up OTA stations from Sutro...much better
                Message 7 of 12 , Mar 18, 2001
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                  Randy Spencer wrote:
                  >
                  > Well, I am under non-disclosure, but the quick and dirty answer is "we are
                  > NOT talking about the same unit", it has NONE of the features you are asking
                  > about but I am sure one will come out that does all that.

                  I am also one of the beta testers with the Zenith unit. I too am
                  getting excellent performance with picking up OTA stations from
                  Sutro...much better performance than my Hipix card could hope to
                  achieve. I think its safe to briefly mention the Zenith unit here...as
                  long as the scope of the test isn't discussed.

                  This Zenith unit is OTA only, has no Dolby Digital outputs, and won't
                  even do 720p. It's for testing purposes only it appears, and the final
                  Zenith product due out this summer looks identical, but will have a ton
                  of options that these units lack. The only part I can vouch for is the
                  OTA tuner...and this one is excellent! I wish the signal strength meter
                  was numeric instead of a barcode....but we can't have everything. Sure
                  is a sweet looking unit!

                  > I would just LOVE to have something by April 29th so I can record
                  > Star Wars on Fox, assuming it's broadcast in HDTV.

                  The Hipix card will record to a hard drive, so there is something out on
                  the market. I've been using mine since Christmas. I have the
                  Raiders/Dolphins game saved currently, and if Fox does show Phantom
                  Menace in HD I'll record that as well. I don't think they are showing
                  this in HD however.

                  The only problem is the card is hard to obtain...the place selling them
                  (Digital Connection) stopped pre-orders until they fill all current
                  orders. They may have a shipment in prior to April 29th though...so it
                  may be worth a shot to keep an eye on them.

                  Chris
                • R8der
                  Regarding the upcoming Zenith product, here is the webpage showing the specs: http://www.zenith.com/cgi-bin/product_front.asp?ID_Product=22 Chris
                  Message 8 of 12 , Mar 18, 2001
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                    Regarding the upcoming Zenith product, here is the webpage showing the
                    specs:

                    http://www.zenith.com/cgi-bin/product_front.asp?ID_Product=22

                    Chris
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