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  • William Lowey
    On my X2, I typically keep the vise centered as that is most often the position that gives me the greatest use of the machines travel. On my bridgeport (9x42
    Message 1 of 20 , Jul 19, 2013
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      On my X2, I typically keep the vise centered as that is most often the position that gives me the greatest use of the machines travel.

      On my bridgeport (9x42" table with ~12x33" travel -- I'm not 100% sure on the X travel as I've never had to run it out to the limits!) my 4th axis is mounted on the right-most edge, and I have the vise mounted about 18" inward of the tables left-most edge (essentially centered within the table space left over by the 4th axis).

      This seems to give me the greatest amount of useful space with the least amount of "setup change-up".

      In so far as my tires, well, they're usually worn out when I take the car to the tire shop. :)

      -WL
    • Barry Young
      You teach English but you write see how confused these kids here get here . Yes you are right, American English is different. Thank goodness.  Now, enough of
      Message 2 of 20 , Jul 19, 2013
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        You teach English but you write "see how confused these kids here get here". Yes you are right, American English is different. Thank goodness. 

        Now, enough of this off topic fooferaw. Back on subject please.

        Barry

        From: John Lindo <bechetboat@...>
        To: "GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com" <GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:09 AM
        Subject: Re: [GrizHFMinimill] Re: Vice in the middle of the bed



        Add on the rubber tyre,for a car.TIRE in the US
        How would you write a note to the local garage in the US ?.My tires are tired please change them.?
        I teach English part time in Spain,see how confused these kids here get here.

        John
        Spain

        From: Ian Newman <ian_new@...>
        To: "GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com" <GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 7:55 PM
        Subject: Re: [GrizHFMinimill] Re: Vice in the middle of the bed

         
        Hi Dave,

        <SNIP>
        It's VISE, Jeremy.
        </SNIP>

        No it is not - vise is the correct term (unless you live in the USA, where in an enthusiastic attempt to show Independence, it is traditional to spell a number of words incorrectly).

        Other well known examples:

        American spelling:
        Aluminum
        British spelling:
        Aluminium

        American spelling:
        Color
        British spelling:
        Colour

        American spelling:
        Pint and a quarter
        British spelling:
        Pint

        American spelling:
        America
        British spelling:
        The Colonies

        All the best,
        Ian



        From: a3sigma <dcclark111@...>
        To: GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013, 15:31
        Subject: [GrizHFMinimill] Re: Vice in the middle of the bed

         


        --- In GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com, "cptwinderatgmaildotcom" <cptwinder@...> wrote:
        >
        > Why does everyone put their mill vice in the middle of the bed instead of at one end? Is it to keep the weight over the base so the bed doesn't bend under it's own weight and that of the vice?
        >
        > When I purchased my mill, a G0704, one of the factors I looked for was to get the largest bed I could afford. So far all I use is about 4" in the center. If I use anything at the ends of the bed it is because I need the vice out of the way and was too lazy to remove it, so I just moved the bed over.
        >
        > Thanks,
        >
        > Jeremy
        >

        It's VISE, Jeremy. VICE on a bed is something else entirely.

        David Clark in Southern Maryland









      • Barry Young
        It has nothing to do with machining, knock it off. Barry Young Group Owner ________________________________ From: Stephen Castello To:
        Message 3 of 20 , Jul 19, 2013
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          It has nothing to do with machining, knock it off.

          Barry Young
          Group Owner


          From: Stephen Castello <zootzoot@...>
          To: GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:27 AM
          Subject: Re: [GrizHFMinimill] Re: Vice in the middle of the bed

          On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:09:15 -0700 (PDT), John Lindo
          <bechetboat@...> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out:

          >Add on the rubber tyre,for a car.TIRE in the US
          >How would you write a note to the local garage in the US ?.My tires are tired please change them.?
          >I teach English part time in Spain,see how confused these kids here get here.
          >
          >John
          >Spain

          One way it would be: my tires are bald please change them.

          This poem is difficult for english speakers:
          http://bertc.com/subfour/truth/english.htm

          --

          Stephen

          "The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the 
          name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." -Thomas Jefferson


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        • Jeremy Winder
          So there are no issues with having the vise at one end and a rotary table at the other end, the additional weight won t mess up the table over time? Thank you,
          Message 4 of 20 , Jul 19, 2013
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            So there are no issues with having the vise at one end and a rotary table at the other end, the additional weight won't mess up the table over time?

            Thank you,

            Jeremy


            On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:10 PM, William Lowey <wlowey@...> wrote:
             

            On my X2, I typically keep the vise centered as that is most often the position that gives me the greatest use of the machines travel.

            On my bridgeport (9x42" table with ~12x33" travel -- I'm not 100% sure on the X travel as I've never had to run it out to the limits!) my 4th axis is mounted on the right-most edge, and I have the vise mounted about 18" inward of the tables left-most edge (essentially centered within the table space left over by the 4th axis).

            This seems to give me the greatest amount of useful space with the least amount of "setup change-up".

            In so far as my tires, well, they're usually worn out when I take the car to the tire shop. :)

            -WL


          • Dale E
            Hi, I keep vises centered on mill tables. Mostly because that generally allows the greatest travel to accommodate long work pieces. It really is aggravating to
            Message 5 of 20 , Jul 19, 2013
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              Hi,

              I keep vises centered on mill tables. Mostly because that generally allows the greatest travel to accommodate long work pieces. It really is aggravating to have to move a fixture to get that extra 1" of travel to machine the whole part. And it allows you to more easily clear the mill head to access the vice and parts from under the head.

              A consideration for those who like to mount several fixtures at the same time to your mill. Be aware of the maximum recommended table load for your machine. A good vise and rotary table can quickly add weight to very close to the limit. As a simple example, a Grizzly G0704 has a recommended maximum table load of 125lbs/57Kg. And heavy off-centered loads will accelerate wear to the gibs and ways or even tip a machine over. The wear will not instantly harm a machine, but it does creep up little by little.


              On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Jeremy Winder <cptwinder@...> wrote:
               

              So there are no issues with having the vise at one end and a rotary table at the other end, the additional weight won't mess up the table over time?

              Thank you,

              Jeremy


              On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:10 PM, William Lowey <wlowey@...> wrote:
               

              On my X2, I typically keep the vise centered as that is most often the position that gives me the greatest use of the machines travel.

              On my bridgeport (9x42" table with ~12x33" travel -- I'm not 100% sure on the X travel as I've never had to run it out to the limits!) my 4th axis is mounted on the right-most edge, and I have the vise mounted about 18" inward of the tables left-most edge (essentially centered within the table space left over by the 4th axis).

              This seems to give me the greatest amount of useful space with the least amount of "setup change-up".

              In so far as my tires, well, they're usually worn out when I take the car to the tire shop. :)

              -WL



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