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  • Simon Butler
    The results of the Sydney Morning Internet poll below signifies a rather amazing turnaround in public opinion - even if we all agree the sample size is fairly
    Message 1 of 2 , Jan 21, 2004
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      The results of the Sydney Morning Internet poll below signifies a rather
      amazing turnaround in public opinion - even if we all agree the sample size
      is fairly small and the methodology of internet polls is flawed.

      All power then to all the determined refugee rights campaigners around the
      country, to newspapers like Green Left who have consistently agitated around
      the issue of Mandatory detention way before there was a refugee rights
      movement, and most of all to the brave asylum seekers who have risked their
      lives to protest and appeal for solidarity from Australian working people.

      Of course, mandatory detention still exists and will exist no matter if the
      ALP or the Liberals win government, so the battle continues. But it is
      important that the movement chocks up its successes and victories and notes
      that it is making a difference.

      cheers
      simon b

      ps. i had a chat to an active ALP member, and supporter of Labor for
      Refugees, here in Newcastle the other day. i asked what chance Labor for
      Refugees had of getting their motions through at the upcoming ALP national
      conference next week. The response was: no chance at all. In fact it is
      likely that some of the 'right' faction who opportunistically supported
      Labor for Refugees previously will now back Latham's line. So as more and
      more working class people in Australia reject Mandatory Detention, a greater
      proportion of the fucking ALP leadership are moving to openly support and
      campaign in favour of this racist policy. Unbelieveable.

      >From: "Project SafeCom" <jackhsmit@...>
      >Reply-To: refugeeactionupdate@yahoogroups.com.au
      >To: <refugeeactionupdate@yahoogroups.com.au>
      >Subject: [refugeeactionupdate] 'Mandatory' Latham represents a minority in
      >Australia
      >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:48:01 +0800
      >
      >Dear NSW Novacastrians,
      >
      >
      >Mark Latham may believe in mandatory detention, but according to a Poll
      >conducted by the Sydney Morning Herald 61% of Australians don't agree with
      >him.
      >
      >Shortly after publishing the article "I believe in mandatory detention,
      >says
      >Latham" (Sydney Morning Herald, January 19, 2004)
      >
      >See http://smh.com.au/articles/2004/01/19/1074360668026.html
      >
      >.... SMH launched an online Poll, titled "Do you support mandatory
      >detention?".
      >
      >We followed the polling patterns - at closing 61% said NO to mandatory
      >detention, and just 35% supported Latham (4% undecided).
      >
      >regards
      >
      >Jack H Smit
      >Project SafeCom Inc.
      >http://www.safecom.org/refugees.htm
      >P.O. Box 364
      >Narrogin WA 6312
      >phone: 041 70 90 130
      >
      >-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      >Poll Results: Do you support mandatory detention?
      >-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      >
      >===================
      >15:00pm, 20 January
      >
      >Yes - 46%
      >No - 48%
      >Undecided - 5%
      >Total Votes: 4726
      >
      >===================
      >18:00pm, 20 January
      >
      >Yes - 44%
      >No - 49%
      >Undecided - 5%
      >Total Votes: 4861
      >
      >===================
      >19:30pm, 20 January
      >
      >Yes - 44%
      >No - 50%
      >Undecided - 5%
      >Total Votes: 4900
      >
      >===================
      >8:00am, 21 January
      >
      >Yes - 40%
      >No - 54%
      >Undecided - 4%
      >Total Votes: 5418
      >
      >===================
      >9:30am, 21 January
      >
      >Yes - 38%
      >No - 56%
      >Undecided - 4%
      >Total Votes: 5666
      >
      >===================
      >11:00am, 21 January
      >
      >Yes - 38%
      >No - 57%
      >Undecided - 4%
      >Total Votes: 5795
      >
      >===================
      >12:00am, 21 January
      >
      >Yes - 37%
      >No - 57%
      >Undecided - 4%
      >Total Votes: 5861
      >
      >===================
      >15:20pm, 21 January
      >
      >Yes - 36%
      >No - 59%
      >Undecided - 4%
      >Total Votes: 6050
      >
      >===================
      >17:20pm, 21 January
      >
      >Yes - 36%
      >No - 59%
      >Undecided - 4%
      >Total Votes: 6094
      >
      >===================
      >7:15am, 22 January
      >
      >Yes - 35%
      >No - 60%
      >Undecided - 4%
      >Total Votes: 6285
      >
      >===================
      >Closing Percentages:
      >
      >Yes - 35%
      >No - 61%
      >Undecided - 4%
      >Total Votes: 6355
      >
      >http://smh.com.au/polls/politics/results.html
      >
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    • Peter Boyle
      Can t resist this. Humphrey McQueen argues that socialists should no longer call the ALP the Labor party because it is an insult to labour. Well, I read in
      Message 2 of 2 , Jan 21, 2004
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        Can't resist this. Humphrey McQueen argues that socialists
        should no longer call the ALP the "Labor party" because it
        is an insult to labour. Well, I read in today's Sydney
        Morning Herald that Janine Latham has coined an acronym for
        the alleged Leader of the Opposition -LOTO! I suggested to
        McQueen that from now on when he tells people not to call
        the ALP "Labor" he should also urge people to call Latham
        LOTO as he leads no real opposition.

        Peter Boyle
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