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  • bobgould987
    By Bob Gould Rohan Pearce says I m being a bit tough on the Green Left Weekly staff for pointing to the lack of serious comment about the Queensland elections
    Message 1 of 40 , Sep 13, 2006
      By Bob Gould

      Rohan Pearce says I'm being a bit tough on the Green Left Weekly staff
      for pointing to the lack of serious comment about the Queensland
      elections other than triumphalism about Sam Watson's vote, and Nick
      Fredman gets positively weepy about the efforts of the GLW staff.

      I have considerable respect for the GLW staff, as I do for all
      full-time socialist activists. They work very hard for very little
      financial return, but of course the failure to comment in any serious
      way isn't a technical matter but a political one.

      As it was close to press time, even one paragraph would have sufficed.
      Some words celebrating the defeat of the Liberals and a few more words
      ascribing the defeat in part to the obvious hostility of a big part of
      the working class to the Howard government's industrial laws. About
      100 words would have been sufficient.

      Judging by past experience of events in which successful opposition to
      conservative policies within the Labor Party and the broad labour
      movement is a key factor, you're unlikely to get recognition of that
      from comment in GLW.

      A striking recent example of this was the collapse of Howard's attempt
      to revive and entrench the "Pacific solution" in migrant and refugee
      matters. There was little comment by GLW for a week or so, and when
      the analysis was finally made, it was a politically quite eccentric
      article ascribing the defeat of Howard's policy to the Liberal
      dissidents, the mass movement, etc, and completely ignoring the most
      glaring aspect of the process, which was that shadow immigration
      minister Tony Burke and Unions NSW president John Robertson had
      stiffened up the whole of the Labor caucus, and that provided most of
      the votes against Howard's proposals.

      The stupid and insulting "analysis" in GLW ignored the Labor role in
      the whole matter, and didn't even mention Burke or Robertson by name.

      The GLW parallel universe might sometimes be extremely funny if it
      weren't for the fact that it is dealing with big and serious questions
      of orientation in the labour movement.

      I'm not holding my breath awaiting a rounded analysis of the
      Queensland elections in GLW. Dave Riley's woolly meanderings give a
      bit of a flavour of what any analysis will be like, if it is ever made.

      The DSP leadership's total preoccupation with its own alleged role as
      the centre of all things progressive is displayed in almost every
      sphere. For instance, on the LeftWrites blog, on which there have been
      a number of serious discussions over the past couple of months, DSP
      leaders such as Norm Dixon and Riley ignore most questions and only
      come to life to blow their own trumpet in a Potemkin Village sort of
      way. They appear to have no other interests.

      In the Queensland elections, the broader picture is ignored in favour
      of Potemkin Village skiting. To bring matters down to earth a bit,
      Paul Benedek, Dave Riley, and now the noisy John Tognolini from NSW,
      proudly relate that $1000 was raised for Sam Watson's campaign, it got
      some endorsements from interstate and overseas, and its supporters
      managed to letterbox 15,000 leaflets.

      They say 60 people worked for the Socialist Alliance on election day,
      and in another place they say the campaign managed to staff nearly all
      of the booths.

      The $1000 amounts to about $20 donation from each of the 60 people,
      and about 300 leaflets letterboxed, on average, by the same 60 people.
      Apparently these 60 people weren't of the same Stakhanovite material
      as Comrade Tognolini, who proudly proclaimed that he gave out many
      thousands of leaflets in a few hours at the recent Blacktown trade
      union rally.

      At the last Queensland elections, two years ago, the DSP-Socialist
      Alliance ran two candidates and the ISO-Socialist Alliance ran one in
      the outer-suburban working-class area of Inala. The ISO candidate got
      a far higher vote than either of the two DSP-Socialist Alliance
      candidates, but in the interim the ISO has declined in membership and
      has moved away from symbolic electoral contests.

      The interesting thing about Sam Watson's result against Peter Beattie,
      the Queensland premier, is that despite the fact that Watson is a much
      more high-profile candidate than Coral Wynter, he still only about
      received the same percentage result, while the Greens vote increased
      and Beattie's vote declined.

      If the Brisbane seat is anything like the seats surrounding the CBD in
      Sydney, and I believe it is, significant gentrification is probably
      taking place there, even in the past two years. This is undoubtedly a
      factor in the rise of the Green vote.

      The DSP-Socialist Alliance campaign had an aspect of almost sublime
      demagogy, the most unprincipled example of which was the appeal for
      Cuban doctors to solve the problems of the Queensland health system.
      Did the DSP perhaps consult the Cubans about this? I strongly doubt it.

      By and large the Cubans offer their doctors to exploited Third World
      countries and to other countries in Latin American where language is
      no barrier. The only exception to this I can think of is Cuba's offer
      of medical aid to the US during the Katrina hurricane crisis, and
      there were obvious propaganda points to be made, from the Cuban point
      of view, in that particular offer.

      The idea of draining trained health professionals from Cuba to a
      relatively affluent capitalist country such as Australia is
      reactionary nonsense. There is already a substantial brain drain of
      doctors, nurses and other health professionals into Australia from
      Third World countries to solve the problems of the Australian health
      system, any working nurse can tell you that. The solution is not to
      take more health professionals from the Third World, where they are
      desperately needed, it's to train more health professionals here,
      including permanent migrant health professionals.

      The call for Cuban, doctors plucked out of the sky, is eccentric
      demagogy with a reactionary aspect presented for electoral purposes,
      which underlines the crudely symbolic character of the DSP-Socialist
      Alliance electoral campaign.

      The other aspect of the DSP leadership's approach to the Queensland
      election is its total lack of interest in the general movement of the
      labour movement and the Greens and its contempt for activists of the
      labour movement, who are dismissed as reactionary because of their
      traditional electoral allegiance and activity.

      The Labor Party contested every seat in Queensland, which meant
      staffing perhaps 2000 polling booths and mobilising upwards of 10,000
      polling booth workers in a very decentralised state.

      The Greens, a smallish mass party, contested a very large number of
      seats and probably mobilised 3000-4000 polling booth workers on the
      day. The Labor and Greens polling workers are by and large the most
      politicised and, relative to society at large, the most left-wing
      section of the population.

      Labor won many provincial seats based on large towns and small cities,
      and most of the seats in what used to be called the Red North, and now
      might reasonably be described as the Pink North. The trade unions
      played an important role in the Labor campaign all over the state.

      There has been a certain low-key shift to the left in the Labor ranks,
      one expression of which is the disappearance of the Queensland Old
      Guard faction and the increase in the number of parliament seats held
      by members of the Left faction.

      In its often uninformed and internally focussed way, Green Left has
      reported the rather leftist stance of the Electrical Trades Union in
      Queensland and implicitly ascribed this shift to the left to the
      influence of the Socialist Alliance. A more obvious explanation of the
      ETU's stance is that it has shifted from the rump of the Old Guard to
      the recently reunited Left faction. This aspect of the ETU's
      re-emerging militancy has never been mentioned in GLW.

      GLW never, ever, gives useful information about shifts in this or that
      direction in the labour movement, and in that aspect GLW is
      considerably inferior to the old Stalinist press, which carefully
      covered such developments.

      For Marxists the key question is not some Potemkin Village electoral
      campaign (a rather inferior one compared with past efforts even by the
      Socialist Alliance) it's how to get an audience among the tens of
      thousands of Labor, trade union and Green activists who mobilised in
      these elections, in large part driven by the opposition to the Howard
      government and WorkChoices, expressed electorally through the channel
      of their traditional allegiance to Labor and the Greens.

      The DSP has a scattering of contacts in regional Queensland, who are
      sometimes mentioned as selling GLW at the industrial mobilisations
      against WorkChoices. The DSP leadership seems to have little to say to
      these people about the electoral mobilisation, and the DSP leadership
      doesn't seem to be interested in gathering their experiences in these
      matters, let alone addressing the Labor and Green activists in any
      sensible way. All you get from GLW is animosity to the Labor and trade
      union activists and aristocratic condescension towards the Green

      Paul Benedek's name appears on a report of the Brisbane election
      campaign, proudly proclaiming that every time Beattie appeared the
      Socialist Alliance gave him curry about the stolen wages of Aboriginal
      people. I remember Benedek from Sydney and it's very likely to have
      been par for the course on election day not just to be giving curry to
      Beattie, but to be giving curry of the same sort to every Labor booth

      That may be a partly effective way of innoculating your own ranks
      against Laborism, but it's a very unlikely way of getting any kind of
      audience for your ideas in the broader labour movement.

      Several of the DSP leadership contributions refer to the 400 votes
      (1.85 per cent of the Brisbane Central electorate) as conscious votes
      for socialism. Are the people who write this stuff really mad enough
      to believe what they write? When you're dealing with a tiny number of
      votes like that, a fair percentage are clearly going to be votes for
      "none of the above", a stick-a-pin-in-the-list kind of vote, and even
      among those who deliberately vote for the socialist alliance, to call
      those votes conscious votes for socialism is to live in a very
      dangerous kind of fantasy land. If there really were 400 conscious
      votes for socialism in Brisbane Central, the labour movement would be
      in a very sharp upturn, which it's clearly not.

      That sort of nutty rhetoric was stock in trade for the old Stalinist
      movement whenever it was in one of its phases of headlong
      confrontation with Labor. That sort of rhetoric has always been
      evidence of dramatic miseducation of cadres.

      I've written a fairly description of the ebbs and flows of the labour
      movement in Queensland in my critique of Jim McIlroy's pamphlet, The
      Red North, and those interested in the real history of the Queensland
      labour movement might wish to have a look at it.
    • glparramatta
      ... See also: http://www.abc.net.au/stateline/nsw/content/2006/s1742962.htm Transcript Dumped! Broadcast: 15/09/2006 Reporter: Quentin Dempster Print Email
      Message 40 of 40 , Sep 18, 2006
        --- In GreenLeft_discussion@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Boyle"
        <peterb@...> wrote:
        > Here's some of gory detail, as revealed by Alan Ramsey in today's
        > Sydney Morning Herald:
        > Fair warning trampled by the machine
        > Sydney Morning Herald, September 16 2006

        See also: http://www.abc.net.au/stateline/nsw/content/2006/s1742962.htm


        Broadcast: 15/09/2006

        Reporter: Quentin Dempster
        Print Email

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: Welcome to Stateline, I'm Quentin Dempster. It's
        rare to get insights into just how political power is brokered in New
        South Wales. Tonight, from the mouth of Labor Party MP Bryce Gaudry,
        the member for Newcastle, concern that government can be captured by
        vested interests, through the efforts of what he calls spiv doctors –
        that's s-p-i-v, spiv doctors.

        Mr Gaudry lost a numbers battle by 13 votes to seven at Labor's
        national executive yesterday and will lose his ALP endorsement for the
        state election next March. He has been shafted, he says, because he took a
        stand against electricity privatisation in the late 1990s and a more
        recent Michael Costa plan to remove the rail line into Newcastle's CBD
        and sell the prime real estate to property developers. The plan has
        since been abandoned after sustained community objection and protest.

        The recriminations from Mr Gaudry are both bitter and revealing.
        Stateline went to Newcastle to record them.

        Just after 2pm on Thursday, Bryce Gaudry, 63, the Member for
        Newcastle, got the call from his scrutineer at the ALP's National
        Executive meeting in Canberra. He already knew he didn't have the
        numbers. His 15-year political career was over.

        BRYCE GAUDRY, ALP NEWCASTLE: Thanks for your help, Sharon. OK. Thanks,

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: So that's it, eh?


        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: it was the end of a two-year lobbying battle which
        climaxed on Wednesday when Mr Gaudry's local ALP branches paid for a
        quixotic half-page advertise in the Newcastle Herald. "Newcastle needs
        a candidate selected by Novocastrians," it said of the head-office
        imposed process which denied the locals a say.

        BRYCE GAUDRY, ALP NEWCASTLE: Obviously the party
        officers, the powerbrokers in Sydney decided they couldn't win what we
        call a rank-and-file preselection. They were also obviously wary of an
        N40 and so they flicked it to the National Executive, where 21 or 22
        members, 17 who don't even live in New South Wales, have just decided
        who will win the preselection for Newcastle and who will represent the
        Labor members here. So it's undemocratic and, as I said, this is the
        end game.

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: Which is really the culture of the New
        South Wales Labor Party, isn't it?

        BRYCE GAUDRY, ALP NEWCASTLE: Well, the whole party here has been based
        and brought up in Newcastle on the rights of ordinary party members to
        participate. That has been trashed by this decision.

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: You're angry, but will you stand as an Independent?
        Newcastle has had an Independent before?

        BRYCE GAUDRY, ALP NEWCASTLE: I've always represented the community
        here as a Labor Party member, and I will continue to represent them as
        a Labor Party member.

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: But isn't - won't this destabilise the Labor Party
        in Newcastle, because at the moment the polls are showing the Iemma
        Government is going to be returned in March next year and the
        Novacastrians can say, "Well, what's the use, we can get better
        leverage with Macquarie Street with an Independent," like they have in
        some National Party seats?

        BRYCE GAUDRY, ALP NEWCASTLE: Well, that's a decision
        the people of Newcastle will make in March 2007. They will, I would
        hope, look at all the policies, rather than making a decision on
        anything but that.

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: Although Mr Gaudry, a Bachelor of Arts and former
        physical education teacher and administrator, elected in 1991, is a
        member of the left faction in the party's Macquarie Street Caucus, he
        says he is a more a non-ideological, community-based politician, and,
        while he is un likely to run as an Independent, he is not taking his
        dis-endorsement lying down. It's payback, he says, for stands he has
        taken against his own government on behalf of his community.

        BRYCE GAUDRY, ALP NEWCASTLE: I can instance you two of those
        occasions. One was against the privatisation of the electricity
        industry and the other, and most recent one, the maintenance to
        Newcastle. In both of those instances, I and other MPs stood up
        against the Government's policy decision and campaigned successfully.
        That didn't endear me, I must say, to some members of the Government,
        where I was then in direct conflict with the then Minister for
        transport, Michael Costa, and certainly that did not endear me either
        to him or other members in the Government.

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: So if we looked forensically, we would see
        Michael Costa's fingerprints on the axe-handle?

        BRYCE GAUDRY, ALP NEWCASTLE: I think these things are
        always shadowy. The axe-handle is delivered to other people.

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: Premier Morris Iemma has personally intervened to
        secure fast tracking of seven new State candidates he introduced to
        the media on Thursday afternoon. They included Mr Gaudry's
        replacement, a recent recruit to the Labor Party, Jodi McKay, a former
        journalist and newsreader with NBN, now in marketing and
        communications and studying for an MBA.

        MORRIS IEMMA, PREMIER: It has had a negative personal impact on Bryce,
        but is in no way a reflection on Bryce.

        REPORTER: What do you think, Jodi?

        JODI McKAY, ENDORSED CANDIDATE: What do I think? I'm really
        excited about it. It's been a – you know, it's been a great day and
        this is about a new perspective for Newcastle, and, yes, I feel very
        privileged and honoured to be in this situation.

        REPORTER: Wouldn't you have rather have been selected by a
        rank-and-file preselection, like most people? The Premier says this is
        about a new perspective for the city.

        JODI McKAY, ENDORSED CANDIDATE: Well, I think that's a process issue
        and, as the Premier said, this is about a new perspective for the city
        and I think that, generally, the majority of people in Newcastle are
        very excited about this.

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: I'm sorry to kick you while you're down, but let me
        put this to you: you are too old and the party obviously needs your
        safe seat of Newcastle to inject some new blood?

        BRYCE GAUDRY, ALP NEWCASTLE: Well, I dismiss that. Eddie Obeid is
        still with the party and going on to represent them. John Price, I
        think, is thinking of standing again, and I've got plenty of vigour
        and strong support from the community. So it's not to do with ageing,
        it's to do with Sydney-based powerbrokers.

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: Bryce Gaudry seems to be accepting his fate. When
        you haven't got the numbers, it's all over.

        It's all over, too, for recently dis-endorsed Liberal Party MLC
        Patricia Forsythe, who last year enraged her party by famously telling
        Stateline that extremists and religious zealots were taking over the
        New South Wales branch. Patricia Forsythe is leaving parliament soon
        to replace Margy Osmond as executive director of the Sydney Chamber of

        REPORTER: Do you still maintain that there are extremists and zealots
        in the New South Wales Liberal Party that have too much influence?

        PATRICIA FORSYTHE, DEPARTING MLC: I made some comments last year. I'm
        not about to be a commentator again about past events or the future,
        but I'm not going to step back from things that I said at the time.
        That would – that would make no sense at all. As to where the Liberal
        Party is at and where the Liberal Party is going is for other people to

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: With Bryce Gaudry now publicly claiming powerbrokers
        have done him in because he stood up for his community, like the
        Liberal Party, the Labor Party's sometimes ruthless internal workings
        have again been exposed.

        If we look forensically we would also see Morris Iemma's fingerprints
        on the axe-handle.

        BRYCE GAUDRY, ALP NEWCASTLE: Well, Morris Iemma has obviously made the
        call to the national executive and, so, his hands are on it. It's his
        decision, but I look more to those factional groups that stand behind
        the Premier as being the instigators of this whole move. I mean, it
        started well over two years ago and has been an ongoing campaign, a
        destabilising campaign, in this area, led, obviously, from Sydney, but
        operating also through their aparachics who constantly feed the media,
        but are always noted as informed Labor sources.

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: Has your party been captured by developer or vested

        BRYCE GAUDRY, ALP NEWCASTLE: Well, there is no doubt that both parties
        and, I think, politics itself is more and more driven to raise funds
        for the cost of elections, and so the - certainly the developers
        understand that it's important to be close by and to constantly lobby.
        One of the things, though, that I would say, which I am concerned
        about, is the growing use of what I would call spiv doctors to deliver
        the message to government, going around members of Parliament. I
        think, as Government goes on, that is more and more an issue that
        needs to be addressed.

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: So the propriety of developer or vested-interest
        lobbying is of increasing concern?

        BRYCE GAUDRY, ALP NEWCASTLE: Well, it's of concern to me and I think
        of concern to the community, but it's an issue, I think, that all
        sides of politics are dealing with. To me, it is a back-door mechanism
        of dealing with government, and takes - doesn't take into account the
        local members, their links to the community, and the important
        messages that they can take to and from government.

        QUENTIN DEMPSTER: Stateline sought an interview with Labor Party State
        secretary Mark Arbib to respond to Bryce Gaudry's attack. He was
        unavailable. In a written statement, Mr Arbib rejected Mr Gaudry's
        claims. He said the Premier had intervened in eight seats, to
        rejuvenate his parliamentary team, a move unanimously supported by
        party officers from both factions, and which maintained the factional
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